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Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method
    #23962187 - 12/28/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'll be referring to psilocybes in this thread, but my intention is to use them at a supplemental ("microdose") level, hence it is more of a 'medicinal' approach. I also feel that individuals more educated in the world of strictly medicinal fungus might be more prepared to help me out with this question. That being said, if this simply isn't the correct section, go ahead and move it.

I have 7 fully colonized rye jars that were going to be grown the usual way to hopefully produce a large quantity for personal supplemental use, i.e., 0.2-0.3g at a time. But then I recalled Stamets' approach to his medicinal products - ground-up myceliated grain. This clicked, so I dried out the contents of one colonized jar and ground them up the next morning. I ate about two teaspoons and absolutely felt effects. It's been some time since I've eaten mushrooms, but I'd equate the feeling to a 1-1.5g trip.

So, that's good news.

But, my question is whether this is the correct approach to the myceliated grain process (pretty sure it isn't), and whether it would be more efficient and productive, when taking into consideration my intended use, than just throwing it all in a large monotub and powdering a few ounces of actual fruitbodies. How much time would a cube need before it will have consumed as much rye grain as possible? Or, if I simply dried all the grain from these freshly-colonized jars, in your opinion, would it amount to more medicine by volume than the amount of dried fruitbodies that 7 quarts worth of spawn could produce...?

I'm kind of in the desert right now with this, so any general thoughts about the whole idea are welcome.

Much appreciated.


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: BBBlack]
    #23962213 - 12/28/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well, 1LB per monotub, theoretically is about 450 grams and if youre taking it at 0.3g a "dose" that's about 1350 "doses"
Im guessing that's a lot more than if you ate colonized grains.
For the sake of argument, 2 tsp is a "dose" of ground up rye grain.
192 tsp to quart, jars are 3/4 full that means 144 tsp times 7 is 1008 tsp divided by 2 for a "dose" is 504 doses.
so 1350 0.3g doses if you fruit or 504 doses if you grind it up.
Personally I would just grow it out


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: SwampDonkie]
    #23962266 - 12/28/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

someone told me if ground up myc is a good path, wed all be doing it...


I suggest you do it with whole brown rice though next time... they seem more suitable for your purpose.


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: BBBlack]
    #23963022 - 12/28/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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BBBlack said:
I'll be referring to psilocybes in this thread, but my intention is to use them at a supplemental ("microdose") level, hence it is more of a 'medicinal' approach. I also feel that individuals more educated in the world of strictly medicinal fungus might be more prepared to help me out with this question. That being said, if this simply isn't the correct section, go ahead and move it.

I have 7 fully colonized rye jars that were going to be grown the usual way to hopefully produce a large quantity for personal supplemental use, i.e., 0.2-0.3g at a time. But then I recalled Stamets' approach to his medicinal products - ground-up myceliated grain. This clicked, so I dried out the contents of one colonized jar and ground them up the next morning. I ate about two teaspoons and absolutely felt effects. It's been some time since I've eaten mushrooms, but I'd equate the feeling to a 1-1.5g trip.

So, that's good news.

But, my question is whether this is the correct approach to the myceliated grain process (pretty sure it isn't), and whether it would be more efficient and productive, when taking into consideration my intended use, than just throwing it all in a large monotub and powdering a few ounces of actual fruitbodies. How much time would a cube need before it will have consumed as much rye grain as possible? Or, if I simply dried all the grain from these freshly-colonized jars, in your opinion, would it amount to more medicine by volume than the amount of dried fruitbodies that 7 quarts worth of spawn could produce...?

I'm kind of in the desert right now with this, so any general thoughts about the whole idea are welcome.

Much appreciated.



Hey..!

BBBlack..

I would like to say that after a year and a half of doing medicinal mushrooms, I have a unbelievable business.

People are lined up outside my door in the morning wanting to buy my products...

I never thought that this could be possible...

It just happen like over night...

I don't know how long it will go or if it is just a fad.

My advice is be as honest with your customers as you can be.

Don't give any medical advice..

Have some good youtube to send them so they can research themselves..

Learn how to buy and process wild chaga....

For any information I'll be more than willing to help,, Just ask...


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: micelio]
    #23963906 - 12/28/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

what stuff are ta growin micelio?

sounds fun!


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: pablokabute]
    #23964255 - 12/28/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Turkey tail, Reishi on brown rice in .5 micron bags..

Start to finish 6 weeks..
I'm doing myceliated brown rice process..

Dry the mycelium for six hours in a dehydrator.
Turn it to powder in a blender then load up 00 capsules.
I get 30.00 dollars for sixty cap bottle..

Also chaga double extraction.
I get 30.00 dollars for a 4 ounce tincture..


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: micelio]
    #23964401 - 12/29/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

micelio said:
Turkey tail, Reishi on brown rice in .5 micron bags..

Start to finish 6 weeks..
I'm doing myceliated brown rice process..

Dry the mycelium for six hours in a dehydrator.
Turn it to powder in a blender then load up 00 capsules.
I get 30.00 dollars for sixty cap bottle..

Also chaga double extraction.
I get 30.00 dollars for a 4 ounce tincture..





where did you get your cultures? Maaan if I only have the space Id be doing shrooms full time... theres just no space... Hopefully I acquire this affordable piece of land a buddy of mine told me about this coming year and go fullblown on this shit. I love the idea of sterilizing the pc with firewood which I collected and chopped  myself.. xD

are you doing this fulltime? or got a corporate job?

more power to what youre doing!


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Re: Powdered myceliated grain as a medicinal delivery method [Re: pablokabute]
    #23966071 - 12/29/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I get my cultures from Out-Grow

http://out-grow.com


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