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Offlinehipp
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Help identifying this San Pedro
    #23961444 - 12/27/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hello all and thank you for reading my first post on these forums. As stated in the title I am looking for opinions on what cultivar this cactus is from people more knowledgable in IDing cacti than I. I am talking about the big dark green cactus. I am fairly certain the two small cacti are PC pachanoi considering how they look as well as them being from home depot.





edit- adding a pic to show the contrast in the sharp angles of the ridges of the PC pedro and the roundness of the ridges of the cactus in question.





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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: hipp]
    #23961471 - 12/27/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

they all look like pc


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: DGB]
    #23961694 - 12/28/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm drunk and some oother shit but yea it looks Pedro for sure.




I'll check for PC genetics tomorrow when I can see straight  :super:


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: DGB]
    #23964150 - 12/28/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

noted, but I really think this cactus is different from the little PCs you can also see in the pics. I've read that the rounded ridges and Vs above the areoles are characteristics indicating it being not a pachanot (the little PCs I have have cornered ridges and indents above areole instead of a V).


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: hipp]
    #23964212 - 12/28/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't call it a PC. What mr hipp has looks like a variation of pachanoi/Riomizquensis/Huanocoensis genetics , or something with more diversity than a single passed around clone , but prehaps PC is in the lineage. For it to be 100% PC wouldn't it have had to be the Vegetive clone from the orignal PC ?  and PC has been growing for many years , therefor the opportunity to be crossed with other plants in the neighborhood.

Sme plants which most would call PC I've seen produce long basal spines , fat scopish looking areoles,  and in general being a more chunky cactus than a common PC , which has survived the winters in 8b where the "PC looks-a-like" had to be brought inside for savings .


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: hipp]
    #23964242 - 12/28/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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hipp said:
noted, but I really think this cactus is different from the little PCs you can also see in the pics. I've read that the rounded ridges and Vs above the areoles are characteristics indicating it being not a pachanot (the little PCs I have have cornered ridges and indents above areole instead of a V).






I agree and it's AWESOME to see ya here Mr.Hipp  :wave:


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #23964244 - 12/28/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I wouldn't call it a PC. What mr hipp has looks like a variation of pachanoi/Riomizquensis/Huanocoensis genetics , or something with more diversity than a single passed around clone , but prehaps PC is in the lineage. For it to be 100% PC wouldn't it have had to be the Vegetive clone from the orignal PC ?  and PC has been growing for many years , therefor the opportunity to be crossed with other plants in the neighborhood.

Sme plants which most would call PC I've seen produce long basal spines , fat scopish looking areoles,  and in general being a more chunky cactus than a common PC , which has survived the winters in 8b where the "PC looks-a-like" had to be brought inside for savings .






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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: spaceman101]
    #23964693 - 12/29/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

They all look pc.


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: hipp]
    #23964733 - 12/29/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The two on the left look like PC pachanoi. The dark green one on the right looks like a pachanoi that is not PC. Areoles are too small and dark. Meh... I've been wrong before though. Could possibly be within the range of expression of a PC pach but I don't think so.


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: Grey Fox]
    #23969117 - 12/30/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for describing the specific traits you looked at and considered in making your decision. I have a general feel for the look of PC and thought my cactus may be something other than it but remain skeptical since different conditions can make the same genes grow very different looking cacti. The small cacti on the left are from home depot so very unlikely to not be PC according to my research.


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #23969149 - 12/30/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for saying what exactly makes you think it may be whatever hybrid you feel it is. I hadn't thought about why PC may have very desirable traits for a hybrid but since you mention it is a hardier plant it would make a lot of sense in trying to create a good all around trichocereus, so I hope what you say is true.


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: hipp]
    #23969530 - 12/30/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Some people say that pc is about 1/2 as strong as non pc pach. But from what i know it is a lot weaker than that. Bridgesii is the best imo. If your goal is to brew or extract then a good pach is fine. But if you want to eat it as is then bridge packs a bigger punch.


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: Grey Fox]
    #23969673 - 12/31/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

I have a bridgesii  :biggrin:  :biggrin:  :biggrin:  I don't know about its punching ability yet, I know it is very good at stabbing though, learned that from potting it.


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Re: Help identifying this San Pedro [Re: hipp]
    #23969712 - 12/31/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Grow and spread it.


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