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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: frog48]
#24419736 - 06/20/17 07:08 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice grows peeps.
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather] 2
#24422990 - 06/21/17 06:50 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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got bored, so we made some lamp shades from mushrooms. Shade itself is substrate grown into a mould, reishi antlers are glued on. applying the socket and wire tomorrow.
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hamloaf
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Spent, ground cubensis substrate pile exponentially getting bigger.
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: hamloaf]
#24423877 - 06/21/17 01:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice. I didn't know that about cubes liking to be the first in.
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: MorePies]
#24434869 - 06/25/17 04:32 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Indeed sir.
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: hamloaf] 3
#24435036 - 06/25/17 05:42 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Morchella rufobrunnea popping up in my raised bed!
Spawned on 4/25/17
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hamloaf
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: TheDuder]
#24435124 - 06/25/17 06:27 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's pimp, Lebowski.
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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: hamloaf]
#24436670 - 06/26/17 01:16 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hamington Loafburg said:
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Hamington Loafburg said: Good idea, more. I like that sequence. Do think that after the oysters have done their thing with the substrate that Agaricus would be a good canadate to feed all the leftovers to?
For sure. I haven't done it personally (I so want there to be some blazei in my future), but I think agaricus is the last stop. Would cubes fit in that category as well?
If you mean by cubes fitting into the same category/place as the Agaricus, or Strophia in this sequence, I don't think cubes would. Cubes are primary decomposers. They like to be the first ones to munch on the substrate.
Hmmmm, I was fairly certain that cubes were secondary decomposers and I remember reading some threads from yeeeeaaaaarrrrsss ago where people were using spent oyster sub at 15% to 15% hpoo to 20% coir to 50% verm with good success. But that was a very long time ago so I really can't vouch for efficacy.
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casualgrower said: got bored, so we made some lamp shades from mushrooms. Shade itself is substrate grown into a mould, reishi antlers are glued on. applying the socket and wire tomorrow.

Casually amazing! Talk about mood lighting!
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Cubes are only secondary decomposers to fit a niche in nature. They are technically both. In nature they are secondary, in cultivation we generally regard them as primary.
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TravelAgency
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Interesting
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Ferather
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natedawgnow said: Cubes are only secondary decomposers to fit a niche in nature. They are technically both. In nature they are secondary, in cultivation we generally regard them as primary.
Indeed, very fussy in nature (wild). Indeed, primary when domesticated-adapted.
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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather]
#24439554 - 06/27/17 02:27 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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My money is on finding areas with higher levels of nitrogen, bring essential goods to it, and fruit. Similar to a hydrated tree or peg will allow oyster to uptake surrounding nutrients.
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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather]
#24439687 - 06/27/17 03:26 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does anyone know if button mushrooms (Agaricus bisporus) produce any of the following enzymes:
Amylase - starch [] Laccase - lignin [] Cellulase - cellulose [] Xylanase - hemicellulose
It's a secondary, but I see grain spawn available, anyone?
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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather]
#24454200 - 07/03/17 10:35 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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For those interested in solubles, the following recipe works like ME agar. This also means it will birth yeast, bacteria and many molds.
Yeast will turn milky on this agar medium.
Soluble nutrients recipe:
100g > CaCO3 Water, pH 7.5 - 8.2, Boiling hot. 2g > Sucrose + 0.1g > Soluble nutrients. 0.2g > 240B Gelatin + 2g > Agar.
List of nutrients in my pocket guide.
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather] 1
#24454553 - 07/03/17 01:20 PM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ferather said: Does anyone know if button mushrooms (Agaricus bisporus) produce any of the following enzymes:
Amylase - starch [] Laccase - lignin [] Cellulase - cellulose [] Xylanase - hemicellulose
It's a secondary, but I see grain spawn available, anyone?
Here is some reading for you  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC201417/pdf/aem00020-0206.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5442256/
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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: KristianF]
#24456176 - 07/04/17 07:05 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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So it's lignicolous (wood loving), and capable of primary decomposition of relevant carbon sources (produces enzymes). Doing some reading it does not produce Xylanase, but it does produce Amylase, Laccase and Cellulase.
This does not look much like a secondary decomposer, more like a fussy mycelium.
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Ferather
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather]
#24456217 - 07/04/17 07:33 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Got it, it's to do with Protease (nitrogen source), it also looks like it's fussy about proteins and nitrogen.
"From the microarray data, a gene cluster coding for three serine proteases (located on chromosome IX) showed high expression on compost compared with other conditions."
"A. bisporus serine proteinase has been shown to be synthesized specifically in response to humic-protein complex; transgenic analysis of the SPR1 promoter elements confirmed that the promoter is able to regulate mycelial serine proteinase production in response to specific nitrogen sources"
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Re: Edible pic of the day [Re: Ferather] 1
#24456319 - 07/04/17 08:47 AM (6 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unsupplemented third flush Hardwood cuties
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Baby Bella (Agaricus bisporus) from local market. Cloned to Malt Agar on 7-1-17 in the late PM. First pics with my new Microscope. Individual mycelium hyphae only.
Had to take the Pic through the back of the plate due to the focal length. Best focus I could get looking through the back door. Interesting that the mycelium grows in layers and just focusing through the agar showed different types of mycelium.
Second pic down is a close up where there are bubble looking nodes. I hope this is not contamination. This clone was taken from tissue in the cap after a clean break. None of the rest of the surrounding agar has any growth and I poured the plates about 10 days ago. I am new at this so I don't recognize everything.
Just a couple of days old but I hope it turns out well and I can make a couple of transfers and then put to a master slant. Too hot here now. Will need to wait until winter to fruit.



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