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pablokabute
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Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields...
#23961310 - 12/27/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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at minute 24:30 of this youtube vid, youll see a short segment about the electrocution of substrates...
what do you guys think about it?
I mean... maybe you can get the most potent cubes around if you have the mobile electrocution tool to experiment on...haha
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: pablokabute]
#23961374 - 12/27/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah.....I posted a thread a while back about something similar and I was informed (and proven to) that that is quite unnecessary.
I love the idea though
Edit: if you electrocute them they die. I think shocked is the term you're looking for
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pablokabute
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Kenetic]
#23961518 - 12/27/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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kenetic said: Yeah.....I posted a thread a while back about something similar and I was informed (and proven to) that that is quite unnecessary.
I love the idea though
Edit: if you electrocute them they die. I think shocked is the term you're looking for
Have you seen the vid? they shown some compelling results in there as well.. or maybe its just for show and those men are in it for the funding? they claim to have 40++% more yield if I remember correctly.
Id like to do some experiment on this when I find the time... especially Ive been seeing this mudfish hunters around carrying a car-battery on their back and a makeshift rigging to catch mudfish, I should ask em how to build it next time... xD
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Edited by pablokabute (12/27/16 10:49 PM)
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: pablokabute]
#23961525 - 12/27/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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idk if it works but I find it cruel
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Intelligentxfruit] 1
#23961581 - 12/27/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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huh
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Theblingbling] 1
#23961610 - 12/27/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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For some reason i can't see the vid on my phone. But IIRC it's shiitake that the shocking works on. Reason is that thigmotropism is a primary pinning trigger for shiitake. It's not a pinning trigger at all for cubes.
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23961822 - 12/28/16 02:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: For some reason i can't see the vid on my phone. But IIRC it's shiitake that the shocking works on. Reason is that thigmotropism is a primary pinning trigger for shiitake. It's not a pinning trigger at all for cubes.
The vid is from a show called 'japanology' and the episode title is 'mushrooms', its a pretty interesting episode ... they did the experiment on gray oysters and regular oysters I think.. They even shown a side by side comparison with those treated with shock and those that didnt get it.
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: pablokabute]
#23962010 - 12/28/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmm with oysters? Interesting.
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Mad Season
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23962220 - 12/28/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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maddchef said: To put this to rest I have taken a stun gun to my subs =/- 30k volts.
Couldn't tell any difference. It's not so much the electricity that promotes pinning but the trauma experienced.
Ask Cron about throwing liberty's at a wall. When I have a sub that doesn't want to fruit I "dry shock" it and or smack it around a bit.
Same principal as when subs fruit early because they run into a contam. Somehow mushroom mycelium has a mechanism that once they sense mortal danger and unfavorable conditions they attempt to fruit.
Like being out numbered and running into an enemy group with a grenade in both hands, death throes.
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maddchef said: Bent a conductive coat hanger into a U shape and stuck both ends into opposite ends of the sub and shocked the arch.
Tried shocking the sub itself which is kinds hard to do and even shocked a few pins with no noticeable differences
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maddchef said: I've grown some retarded ass cubes in my day but the shocked tubs were unremarkable.
Maybe if you shock yourself while you're eating the mushroom you will see increased potency
Personally I've never done this, but this is from someone who has
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Mad Season]
#23962310 - 12/28/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The second quote was done improperly. Youd put a positive lead on one end of the sub and the ground on the other so the current will go through the sub. What he did was pretty much nothing. As for the other two they didnt go into detail about their tech so sorry, but I personally feel like none of the quotes support anything.
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Kenetic]
#23963024 - 12/28/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The first part is that, but shocking the sub itself and the pins.. that isn't the same as bending a coat hanger. It sounds like he just went all over the substrate with a Taser lol. Idk maybe ask madd yourself :P. Personally I don't have the funds or care too much to get a Taser. I'd rather get a rifle or shotty haha
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Mad Season]
#23963265 - 12/28/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wtf did I just read!
Hahahahhha
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Kenetic
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Mad Season]
#23963268 - 12/28/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The idea is definitely interesting but certainly not practical for most of the growers on here.
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Kenetic]
#23963274 - 12/28/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find that if I stress my sub out by yelling at it and showing it my bills it really works well.

Fuck outa here!
Edited by Th3Issu3 (12/28/16 04:50 PM)
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Kenetic
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23963277 - 12/28/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stressing a sub makes more sense than that post
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Re: Electrocuting shroom subtrates for better yields... [Re: Kenetic]
#23963288 - 12/28/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stressing the sub makes sense for edibles where they respond when conditions are no longer favorable, but cubensis just fruits when it wants. Stressing it in any form, including cold shocking to try to fruit seems like a BE killer to me
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