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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23960213 - 12/27/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Life and current society really isn't that bad, I used to think life sucked, then I realized I was just depressed and stupid and that everything is cool and awesome. We live in a pretty self-aware society, full of people who think everyone except for them is dumb.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Sheekle]
    #23960247 - 12/27/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think everyone is dumb period.

That's not. The full extent of my ideology of humanity. Not remotely. But I know that if I would have stuck with my pipe dreamed career path of environmental conservation I would most certainly ended up committing suicide.


Awareness is an ever shifting concept.
IME most times people are unaware of things because they don't want to be, because they don't want to pay attention to the downers, and in this case I don't blame them. Not alot individuals can do. Nothing I can do but try to be happy with the hand I've been given.


What does bother me though is how people say and convince themselves and others that the problem does not exist because there's nothing we can do about it. It's like saying cancer doesn't exist because we can't cure it.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Sheekle]
    #23960260 - 12/27/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No one mentioned life sucking. But its a great thing you are feeling better these days.

I think CookieCrumbs is on the money.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23960265 - 12/27/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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...What does bother me though is how people say and convince themselves and others that the problem does not exist because there's nothing we can do about it. It's like saying cancer doesn't exist because we can't cure it.




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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23960274 - 12/27/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You should blame people that avoid downers. They are some of the worst people of all.

It isn't like cancer. Cancer is a set of mutation based diseases, well the environment!sent is still here despite all the screaming by fearful people.

What can we do though? Do you people want a centralized power to make changes without regards to the economic implications


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23960282 - 12/27/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Really, the only reassurance I hear from the other end is "the earth has been here for billions of years. It goes on without us", which is exactly whats going to happen, and we deserve it. I guess I'm just not as ready for mass extinctions as they are :shrug:



>says inb4 it turns into a political thread
>no one talks about politics whatsoever
>posts with language such as "other end" and "they are."
>clearly trying to provoke political banter

Hurrr durr


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Universaleyeni] * 1
    #23960288 - 12/27/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

there are things that can be done, people are working on a cure for cancer, just like people are working on curbing environmental polution and safer nuclear energy. these things can't be corrected/perfected overnight. humanity always goes through a turbulent learning period before it comes to a solution.

it's not doomsday. it's training day. :awesome:


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23960296 - 12/27/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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there are things that can be done, people are working on a cure for cancer, just like people are working on curbing environmental polution and safer nuclear energy. these things can't be corrected/perfected overnight. humanity always goes through a turbulent learning period before it comes to a solution.

it's not doomsday. it's training day. :awesome:



So it's time to take PCP?


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23960299 - 12/27/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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it's not doomsday. it's training day. :awesome:




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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23960300 - 12/27/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Mad_Larkin said:
there are things that can be done, people are working on a cure for cancer, just like people are working on curbing environmental polution and safer nuclear energy. these things can't be corrected/perfected overnight. humanity always goes through a turbulent learning period before it comes to a solution.

it's not doomsday. it's training day. :awesome:



So it's time to take PCP?






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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 1
    #23960309 - 12/27/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Economics is highly arbitrary and won't exist as our resources are depleted. Go ask commercial fisheries about how badly their catches have fallen off in the last 30 years. Unless we try to do things with sustainability in mind instead of profit then industries like that are going to continue to fall off.


Environmental deterioration is alot like cancer (even tho it was an off-hand statement). It is a mutation that often occurs naturally but can be caused and worsened by poor choices. Climate change occures naturally. Extinction occurs naturally. But there is absolutely no question that we can and do make it worse.

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Mad_Larkin said:
there are things that can be done, people are working on a cure for cancer, just like people are working on curbing environmental polution and safer nuclear energy. these things can't be corrected/perfected overnight. humanity always goes through a turbulent learning period before it comes to a solution.

it's not doomsday. it's training day. :awesome:




Thank you Larkin that was the point I had in mind. People have much better life expectancy with cancer today thanks to the people that acknowledge and address the problem. But I do think the greed for profit is inhibiting improvements there too.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23960315 - 12/27/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I stopped reading at your first sentence. I'm not gonna write a paragraph,
Economics is the science of distributing limited resources. If we ran out, everything would be over


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23960320 - 12/27/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Mhmm
So if it makes you feel better I amend my first sentence to "we handle economics in a very arbitrary manner." I don't think dollar prices reflect the true value of many things these days. Worse is when the dollar also does not hold its own value.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23960323 - 12/27/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i think she meant the current economic models based on inflation and petrochemicals.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23960326 - 12/27/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Alot of possibly intake things have the potential to effect everything. Of course it's political. You think people in power won't use a panic filled issue like that to their advantage, true or not?

I've watched alot on it, and really, I'm not convinced it's what liberals seem to say.






just because someone uses an issue politically, does not mean it is a political issue



also, what does "possibly intake things...." mean?


grammar, lol


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: demiu5]
    #23960347 - 12/27/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I meant fake, not intake. Spelchecked

Now, the what is handling economics arbitrarily? It's a really poor statement that means nothing. Countries and people are out for themselves. We aren't a hive mind. The government creates an illusion that it controller the economy by printing money, taxes, terrifs, economic policy, but really they just get in the way of resources naturally flowing where they need overtime and create inefficiency.

Prices are skewed from this. Something like meat and dairy should be far more expensive because of labor intensity, but due to terrible government policy we subsidize the industry.

It couldn't stop something like peak oil. We would be awear if we were close to out of a major resource


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23960358 - 12/27/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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it's not doomsday. it's training day. :awesome:




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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Universaleyeni] * 1
    #23960469 - 12/27/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
I think everyone is dumb period.

That's not. The full extent of my ideology of humanity. Not remotely. But I know that if I would have stuck with my pipe dreamed career path of environmental conservation I would most certainly ended up committing suicide.


Awareness is an ever shifting concept.
IME most times people are unaware of things because they don't want to be, because they don't want to pay attention to the downers, and in this case I don't blame them. Not alot individuals can do. Nothing I can do but try to be happy with the hand I've been given.


What does bother me though is how people say and convince themselves and others that the problem does not exist because there's nothing we can do about it. It's like saying cancer doesn't exist because we can't cure it.




"how people say and convince themselves and others that the problem does not exist"

Why is it a problem, what's the ultimate goal?  Isn't survival for today a goal?  Doesn't that take precedent over the potential that it could cause harm to my survival years from now?


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23960478 - 12/27/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
I think everyone is dumb period.

That's not. The full extent of my ideology of humanity. Not remotely. But I know that if I would have stuck with my pipe dreamed career path of environmental conservation I would most certainly ended up committing suicide.


Awareness is an ever shifting concept.
IME most times people are unaware of things because they don't want to be, because they don't want to pay attention to the downers, and in this case I don't blame them. Not alot individuals can do. Nothing I can do but try to be happy with the hand I've been given.


What does bother me though is how people say and convince themselves and others that the problem does not exist because there's nothing we can do about it. It's like saying cancer doesn't exist because we can't cure it.



Yeah, people are so dumb, that's why we have the ability to instantaniously message each other from hundreds upon hundreds of miles away despite never having ever met each other.

The reason why a mass-organization of food, products, shelter, and waste removal exists is because we're just a bunch of stupid monkeys. Humans didn't even invent brain surgery, rocket science, modern medicine,  musical instruments, the ability to travel into space, mathematics, the ability to record videos and take pictures, and every other miracle we're faced with on the daily.


Alien overlords are responsible for all the cool shit in the world Cookie, humans didn't make any of this. They're too dumb.


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"Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft
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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Sheekle]
    #23960488 - 12/27/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You guys are funny :lol:


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