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human destruction of earth's fauna and flora
    #23959667 - 12/27/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

makes me really :sad:


World wildlife 'falls by 58% in 40 years'
Cheetahs heading towards extinction as population crashes
20% of the amazon lost in 40 years, 20% to be lost in the coming two decades

we are effectively seeing the extinction of the giants on our planet as well as the smaller animals that inhabit our world. I watched a documentary recently on the mass killings of elephants in Africa due to the ivory trade that traces back to China... humans really are a disgusting species. I was also thinking about how things looked different as a kid, that there were more birds and animals around when i was a kid and today there seems to be less and less. 5-10 years ago we used to see groups of sandhill cranes walking through our yards and what not, and that's been an increasingly scarce occurance. we used to see ibises and ducks and all sorts of birds but i rarely see many anymore in the lakes and ponds near by. sure, they are still around, but not in the numbers they once were


i see a lot of development in my area too. entire swaths of forests get cut down and apartment complexes and houses go up, and there's less and less natural environment to enjoy.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: 404] * 7
    #23959686 - 12/27/16 02:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

inb4 "hurr durr you cant prove that we're directly responsible for their extinction". This is going to turn into another shit political thread. I can already tell.

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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23959688 - 12/27/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

it's only one reply deep :obamafrown: two now, i guess


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 3
    #23959689 - 12/27/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You are correct on that one sir.

Happy to be in b4 that nonsensical talk. The world is fucked, but honestly I think most people won't give a shit until it's too late :shrug:


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23959690 - 12/27/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: 404] * 1
    #23959691 - 12/27/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you live in FL, like me. Always seeing large swaths of forest wiped out to build more houses and useless commercial buildings.
I would be lying if I said I was optimistic about humanity pulling it's head out of it's ass and seeing the light,
I only see people becoming more and more enveloped in consumerism. And I feel so helpless about doing anything about it.

Do we just enjoy the planet while it lasts? Where would we even begin if we wanted to try and fight the entire world to protect them from themselves?

What would it really take for such a large amount of people to suddenly gain respect for the ground they walk and depend on?
A big fucking meteor?

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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Tmethyl] * 2
    #23959693 - 12/27/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Really, the only reassurance I hear from the other end is "the earth has been here for billions of years. It goes on without us", which is exactly whats going to happen, and we deserve it. I guess I'm just not as ready for mass extinctions as they are :shrug:


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #23959696 - 12/27/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Too much television distracts people from the environmental issues at hand.

trash that boob tube and get in with life. hehe


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Tmethyl]
    #23959698 - 12/27/16 02:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You knew i lived in fl i thought? talked about hanging out but it never happened. we live about an hour away from each other. I've gotten really big into hiking and exploring the natural parts of this state, so if you ever change your mind drop me a line and let's go. Withlacoochie state park has been on my list for a while...


honestly, i don't know if there's a whole lot we can do, (avg human)  as we are outnumbered vastly by people who don't care about the world they live in or are destroying, and maybe it's not even like that for some - many are just trying to get by and fix their own lives first and foremost. i dunno man.

what is promising is that solar is vastly outpacing fossil fuels in terms of cost more and more... and there are solutions to carbon emission problems... but there's a lot. a LOT. that needs to be done and realized to slow this stuff down. the people policing the logging industry need to cut out the corruption and be giving adequate resources to fight it for instance.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: 404]
    #23959706 - 12/27/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

in the grand scheme of things it really doesen't matter

the universe you all live in is a simulation within a simulation to a massive order. At any instant one of the simulations above us could be stopped from rendering and thus our universe would be instantly converted from "existence" to "non-existence"

do and try and enjoy the machinations


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: czech] * 2
    #23959714 - 12/27/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:whateveryousayfreak:


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #23959739 - 12/27/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: czech]
    #23959765 - 12/27/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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in the grand scheme of things it really doesen't matter






So why dont you kill yourself? Rob a bank? Go out in a blaze of glory. Does anything matter?


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: 404]
    #23959766 - 12/27/16 03:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Its tragic, and the next few generations may witness the existinction of the ecosystem (of which humans are only a small part), but it wont be an end to life itself.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23959796 - 12/27/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

OP should go hug more trees


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: SpaaaceFace]
    #23959818 - 12/27/16 05:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

it sucks to lose cuddly looking animals but mass species die offs arent necessarily a bad thing


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23959824 - 12/27/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you take out one species the species that relied on that species for whatever reason gets more strain on it to survive.

But, for the sake of argument, what makes you say that?


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: 404]
    #23959827 - 12/27/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Don't worry OP, all these people who don't care now are going to start caring soon, when it's too late.  No ecology, no economy.  Simple simon.

Aside from the burgeoning population of yet more useless eater humans, anyone paying much attention surely has noticed the fake clouds the planes flying back and forth leave.  Sadly, many have been so asleep or brainwashed, they think these planes are "normal". 

Between the aerosol program combined with the EMF that is pretty much everywhere now, combined with radiation from Fukushima etc. that is pretty much everywhere now, we are pretty much fucked.

How can somebody not notice the difference between a spray day, and a no spray day?  Is it because they are that stupid, that ignorant, or just don't care?  It amazes me.

Well, cancer is epidemic, autism is epidemic, alzheimers is epidemic, people are not in fact living longer when one cancels out infant mortality.  Vaccination is soon to become mandatory for everyone based on the notion that it actually is doing good instead of poisoning.

The information is out there, probably not for long given recent legislation. 

Those who can't see the trees dying, the bird population drop off, and the recent dramatic drop off in insects, need to turn off their phones and look around, ffs.


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #23959829 - 12/27/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think human civilization as we all know it will soon collapse

Perhaps not in our lifetimes though, but certainly within the next few hundred years

It is sad to think about how much natural beauty has been defaced and destroyed in such a short period of time though, but as they say, karma is a bitch


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Re: human destruction of earth's fauna and flora [Re: 404]
    #23959831 - 12/27/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

404 said:
If you take out one species the species that relied on that species for whatever reason gets more strain on it to survive.

But, for the sake of argument, what makes you say that?




it's a natural cycle. species diversity increases over long periods of time, spikes exponentially over a short period, then drops sharply in mass die offs, making way for new levels of complexity/diversity



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