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InvisiblePhobos
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Possible Gallerina, other? HELP?
    #23959665 - 12/27/16 02:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Scroll below for more info.

The real question:
How dangerous is .2 to .3 dried grams of something (possible gallerina) ? is that fatal or must one ingest more than that anyway and I don't even need to be worried even if I did consume something harmful?

Please answer!


Edited by Phobos (12/27/16 02:27 AM)


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23959668 - 12/27/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So in this photo for instance, there's one almost left of center, with a hole in it... does that look worrisome?




Long story short, at 11:15 I took .2-.3 grams of what I assume is p allenii,

and now I'm having a serious anxiety attack about this right now,
but I'm wondering if I could have consumed something dangerous — I had gotten IDs for allenii in the other post, so I assumed all was well.

But also: even if I DID take something dangerous, how bad would 2. or .3 grams be? Is that fatal? What can I expect?

Am I panicking over nothing?


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23959672 - 12/27/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'll also say: I have no idea which one of this batch I took in particular, but I'm freaking out about that one for whatever reason.

I mean, it looked like all the rest dried-ish, it just wasn't "stained blue" — though I recall a tiny spot, if I remember.  Oh, I'm sure I sound ridiculous here.

I have to admit, I had only taken that small dosage as I'd been wanting to just "microdose" basically — I've never actually taken mushrooms before, so this was a silly thing in all regards. I went into this thinking I was giving it respect though now, as I panic, I realize I was not.


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23959674 - 12/27/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't see anything that looks like Galerina in there, I only see Psilocybe. You are fine. :thumbup:


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Byrain]
    #23959676 - 12/27/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Can you check the other post as well please?


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23959677 - 12/27/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Here's the whole thing for copying's sake:



Here's the group of stuff that was together, and these were found in what was basically wood chips, some grass:


Alternate w/ flash:

Closer:

Closer:




Edited by Phobos (12/27/16 02:13 AM)


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23959680 - 12/27/16 02:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

But really though, the big question: even if it were, how harmful is consuming .2 or .3 dry grams of something?


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23959699 - 12/27/16 02:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've looked at the additional pics and they still look like all Psilocybe.

Amatoxins vary greatly from mushroom to mushroom in species that contain harmful amounts. There have been cases where people have eaten entire deadly Amanita species and have not gotten sick. There are also cases where people have died doing that of course. My understanding is that accidentally eating one Galerina marginata would likely not get someone sick, but I strongly suggest against finding out. Especially given how easy its to tell them apart from Psilocybe with a little experience.

The one good rule about mushroom hunting is to not eat anything that has not been correctly identified. Your finds have been so you're fine. :smile:


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Byrain]
    #23959708 - 12/27/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I guess also I'm still worried about the randoms I found --



I think I just threw those out, but worrying I tossed that overturned one in with the rest


Edited by Phobos (12/27/16 02:49 AM)


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InvisibleByrain

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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Byrain]
    #23959722 - 12/27/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like Clitocybe nuda (Edible), Leucopaxillus, another small Clitocybe (May or may not be poisonous) and maybe a beat up Psilocybe.

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Leucopaxillus_albissimus.html
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Clitocybe_nuda.html


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Byrain]
    #23960956 - 12/27/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Welp, its almost 4pm next day feeling fine, so just a paranoid/anxiety thing.


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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23960962 - 12/27/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You definitely dont want those kind of thoughts while you are tripping on a larger dose.
Try to only eat obvious blue stainers for a more comfortable trip until you are more confident with your identification skills.


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23960998 - 12/27/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Feeling like I should've purposely bruised more caps to make myself feel better.  There's quite a few caps that aren't really "staining blue," in any significant way (though they may have had I tried bruising them) and my overanalyzing keeps bringing up questions about my visual context and the color spectrum, and whether or not "that's really blueish?"  Oh, to be an anxious person.


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23961005 - 12/27/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All those specimens look good man you have nothing to worry about. Stay calm and you'll be fine, even if you happened to pop a gally in with em' you're gonna be okay. But after looking them over they're all Allenii except that group of randoms you got there. Looks like in that photo you have a baby cyan or allenii as well. (The one in the very center)


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Colonel]
    #23961735 - 12/28/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

guys this is not me but seeing posts like this after my posts makes me really worried

we really need to learn more beofre just taking mushrooms


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: seemore]
    #23961747 - 12/28/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

seemore said:
guys this is not me but seeing posts like this after my posts makes me really worried

we really need to learn more beofre just taking mushrooms




You dont go out into the wild and eat plants without knowledge of them.
You dont go out into the wild and eat berries without knowledge of them.
You dont go out into the wild and eat mushrooms without knowledge of them.
Even some animals can make you extremely sick or kill you if you eat them.

This website is for a small amount of comfort in a second opinion.
You must feel confident in YOUR OWN ability to identify something, NOT this websites or any other!

Always do your own research.


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23962946 - 12/28/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MollyLucyMaryJane said:
Quote:

seemore said:
guys this is not me but seeing posts like this after my posts makes me really worried

we really need to learn more beofre just taking mushrooms




You dont go out into the wild and eat plants without knowledge of them.
You dont go out into the wild and eat berries without knowledge of them.
You dont go out into the wild and eat mushrooms without knowledge of them.
Even some animals can make you extremely sick or kill you if you eat them.

This website is for a small amount of comfort in a second opinion.
You must feel confident in YOUR OWN ability to identify something, NOT this websites or any other!

Always do your own research.




Agreed. It's been at least 36 hours and no symptoms I guess. But I'm an overly anxious person in the first place and still worried -- especially after reading some things on here of people saying it can take days for symptoms to show. Blah!


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InvisiblePhobos
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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23962959 - 12/28/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Also, not even like i even want anything around. Was just having fun hunting stuff, and got excited.  Planning to just toss them after I know I'm ok.


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InvisibleMollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23962967 - 12/28/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

There is noone you could gift them to?
Make sure if you toss them you toss them outside where they can spread spores and not the garbage can.


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: MollyLucyMaryJane]
    #23962983 - 12/28/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly, On top of my anxiety and paranoia about possible poisoning, lately I've been very anxious about all this political stuff going on, and I don't really want to be doing anything that could get me into trouble down the line anyway. :\

And don't feel comfortable gifting if I myself don't want to chance anything.


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23963030 - 12/28/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think you're getting a little too paranoid about all of this. If you throw them out I'll cry.


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Re: Possible Gallerina, other? Help please, worried. [Re: Phobos]
    #23963044 - 12/28/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Phobos said:
Honestly, On top of my anxiety and paranoia about possible poisoning




There is 500,000 % chance you have not been poisoned.


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