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voodoochild1000
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
#23960556 - 12/27/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm feeling you Bro... I'm just totally Blown Away now it just completely stopped working!... I never saw this coming... when we did mushrooms weekly for a month the trips just got more and more intense not less
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voodoochild1000
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I just feel like I really need to know if it's the mushroom or me?
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voodoochild1000 said: I just feel like I really need to know if it's the mushroom or me?
Likely you I'm sorry to say. Unless you have a friend handy who hasn't dosed in a long time who can try the same batch you likely won't be able to confirm 100%.
My advice remains the same. Take an extended absense the amount you were trying to dose with is extreme and if that wasn't even working then perhaps this is a sign for you to focus your attention elsewhere.
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Edited by Dabrit (12/27/16 04:27 PM)
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
#23961156 - 12/27/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is the mushrooms. Almost everyone here seems to be unaware that mushrooms vary from one to the next. It doesn't matter if they grew from the same cake, you found them in the same patch, w/e. Unless you have an isolate then you will have varience. I've had mushrooms from a bag I grew where 3g would send me to the moon and another 3g would literally do nothing at all, totally bunk. I've also tripped an uncountable number of times.
I've tripped many days in a row numerous times, I've tripped for almost 2 weeks straight once.. Or maybe it was 3? Regardless I am affected by them just as much as I ever was, if anything I would say they even have a reverse tolerance in the long term.
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: krypto2000]
#23961179 - 12/27/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's for you sir. Everyone is different for most people short term tolerance applies meaning if you dose one day if you do them again the second day you need to do on average 3 x the original dose to have the same effect. There is a tolerance calculator somewhere posted on this site. And then even still for some two weeks will not be enough to baseline and long term tolerance can occur as it has for me. I have tried several different batches waiting a couple months between at times and every time since last summer I have not been able to trip properly. I highly doubt 8 batches in a row of shrooms would be bunk especially when people I know who did some from the same bag got high as fuck.
Reverse tolerance is real though and does happen for some people but that is more the exception than the rule
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
#23961217 - 12/27/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't say you're wrong but it just seems like there's a more likely explanation than a sudden tolerance that very few people report. You two are the only ones I can even remember having claimed this in my decade of membership. It also seems very strange that it would go from full blown mystical experience to "I can't trip" as opposed to, "well, that wasn't as enjoyable as I'm used to" and degress from there. Mdma is known for that and even those users do not experience such a rapid loss. Again I'm not saying you're wrong or it's impossible but it just doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: krypto2000]
#23961237 - 12/27/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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For me it wasnt as sudden as for the OP but was significant. Basically now all I get is come up butterfly and very mild visuals that's about it no matter the dose
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
#23961357 - 12/27/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Definitely not the shrooms going bad to be sure. A buddy of mine took 3 grams and was gone for over 5 hours. Ended up giving him the rest of my stash. I hope my brain isn't what's going bad.
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23961395 - 12/27/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You shouldn't have given up that fast
You should have taken a mild dose around a week later and tested the waters again
6 grams AND 6 hits of acid?
son..
slow the fuk down
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: cube talk]
#23962028 - 12/28/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cube talk said: You shouldn't have given up that fast
You should have taken a mild dose around a week later and tested the waters again
6 grams AND 6 hits of acid?
son..
slow the fuk down
We were up to 9n9 at one point.....
It's just doesn't make sense... I don't think my brain can just make it "not happen"
These shrooms are the most potent I've ever had...there is no way my brain could just decide to ignore that level of psilocybin...
I just gonna do some more on Thursday....if They don't work I'll still be confused and will have to wait for new batch.
If the new batch doesn't work....maybe it is my brain....
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dont weigh out the dose this time
Instead just munch on them slowly until you start to fill filled and then stop
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: cube talk]
#23962313 - 12/28/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cube talk said: dont weigh out the dose this time
Instead just munch on them slowly until you start to fill filled and then stop
I'm not sure how this is going to answer my question as far as the potency of the shrooms
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cube talk said: dont weigh out the dose this time
Instead just munch on them slowly until you start to fill filled and then stop
I'm not sure how this is going to answer my question as far as the potency of the shrooms
It likely won't. Like I said I'd recommend getting a new batch and then find someone you know who does trip occassionally but doesn't do them regularly like yourself, have them dose and have them report back( human guinea pig) if possible ask if they can find a large sized fruit that could be split up between the two of you and have them dose. If they trip no problem then you eat the other half of the larger sized fruit and can't trip then you have your answer.
I've got to be honest though I have been taking magic mushrooms since the age of 17 and would often trip weekly during those first few years. Never had I not tripped off shrooms until 2015 when I was 34 then all of a sudden I couldn't have a full on trip, like I said trying multiple times with different batches from different sources and sources I know sell tried and tested clones.
Sometimes I'd wait two weeks other times waiting 2 months and nada, just a very mild stone. I hardly think that I could go over 15 years being able to trip each and every time then all of a sudden in one year I get 8 or more bunk batches of mushrooms in a row but in the previous 15 years had none....It's likely me as it is likely you sir unfortunately.
But like I said you could try and find a guinea pig to confirm.
Just out of curiosity you aren't taking any prescription medications are you? Or perhaps over the counter meds like 5HTP or St Johns Wort?
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
#23962558 - 12/28/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you taking any medications or life changes that happened when psilocybin stopped working for you?
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Psychonott]
#23963045 - 12/28/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No drugs or life changing events....
Like I said we hypothesize that the little bit of DMT we smoke made it so we couldn't trip on mushrooms but I have never heard that and it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense...
..what do u guys think?
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voodoochild1000 said: No drugs or life changing events....
Like I said we hypothesize that the little bit of DMT we smoke made it so we couldn't trip on mushrooms but I have never heard that and it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense...
..what do u guys think?
The DMT would be an irrelevant factor unless you tried to dose with the shrooms within one hour of doing a hit of DMT as there is cross tolerance between the two as there is cross tolerance between most psychedelics. It only takes 1 hour to completely baseline yourself though from The DMT where you would no longer have any residual tolerance left in fact you would be ready for another breakthrough dose if you wanted to. And could dose on the shrooms, the opposite would be true of the shrooms though, if you had dosed on the shrooms first and were still high in the middle of your trip it would affect the ability to be able to breakthrough on the DMT and for a longer period than an hour. Likely you would not be successful until the psilocybin is fully out of your system and it may take up to two weeks to be able to have a full on DMT breakthrough without upping the regular dose.
In Dr Rick Straussmans book " DMT The Spirit Molecule" he refers to psilocybin as orally active DMT. They are almost identical from a molecular structure.
In summary I doubt the DMT had anything to do with it.
Find yourself a human guinea pig already lol
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Psychonott]
#23963126 - 12/28/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psychonott said: Are you taking any medications or life changes that happened when psilocybin stopped working for you?
No in fact when it occurred I was in a very good place in my life, however a few months later the roller coast that is life took a dive and all kinds of problems arose, I ended up getting chronic insomnia which led to increased anxiety and depression, that's when I started becoming addicted to sleeping pills and right now am on the journey to recovery.
In the midst of all the turmoil I did try and dose on shrooms a few times as they are known for their anti depressant effects, but like before they just wouldn't work. This could also be do to the Klonopin in my system along with the long term tolerance I had already acquired prior.
I will not be trying to dose again likely until next summer and I'm off all pharmaceutical drugs and will have been a good year since my last dose more than enough time I think for the magic to return.
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
#23963306 - 12/28/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe they don't have anything to show you? Cyans are supposed to be Sttteerrrronnng too.. Weird..I'd have to say the same about the tolerance break. But you're right NOTHING at all IS weird...
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23963369 - 12/28/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well...gonna try that same bag tomorrow... if nothing I'll wait for next batch...if that doesn't work I'll break till summer!
Still so weird.....
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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? Please Help... [Re: voodoochild1000]
#23963864 - 12/28/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The last two times I did mushrooms they did next to nothing for me.
3 weeks ago....6g. Of cyans
1week ago 6g. of tried and true cubes from a batch that we've been eating off of since June and tripping hard as f*** every single time....
We wrote the cyans off as bunk they were given to us by a friend and we had no idea of knowing how authentic they were.
Then a friend that we gave some to reported to us that he tripped harder than he ever had in his life off the very same mushrooms?
I'm not sure what's up with the cubensis? We ate 6 grams and 6 hits of acid one month ago and it was literally the most intense trip me and my Bro's life!... just awesome!
Well, much of what been's said might apply. I've had times where in the middle of heavy experiences literally nothing - NOTHING - happens. And then that's over and it's back to normal. I've tripped multiple days in the week, weeks on end, until reaching max tolerance (about 5-6 X what an ordinary baseline dose is) and when I've done that the "NOTHING" part doesn't ever happen. When I got the big brushoff I had to think about what I was doing and why. But you're doing that. If I had shrooms right now I'd send ya some bro. But I'm only just getting back to cultivation.
Get another supply, find another batch of cyans (wild are extremely variable), go into the next experience with humble shamanic expectations only asking to be shown what's needed, you might be surprised... 
FWIW I've never had the mushrooms consistently hold any part of my attitude or approach or intentions against me except to show better paths I might be following. None of those include a complete shutdown of psychedelic effect though...
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