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Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? Please Help...
    #23958997 - 12/26/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The last two times I did mushrooms they did next to nothing for me.

  3 weeks ago....6g. Of cyans

  1week ago 6g. of tried and true cubes from a batch that we've been eating off of since June and tripping hard as f*** every single time....

  We wrote the cyans  off as bunk they were given to us by a friend and we had no idea of knowing how authentic they were.

  Then a friend that we gave some to reported to us that he tripped harder than he ever had in his life off the very same mushrooms?

  I'm not sure what's up with the cubensis? We ate 6 grams and 6 hits of acid one month ago and it was literally the most intense trip me and my Bro's life!... just awesome!

    I'm not sure exactly what is going on. I don't think that we have lost the magic because we've only been doing things every two weeks and treating it with respect and I can't see how things would go off a cliff and then all the sudden we get absolutely nothing from what is normally a solid to massive type dose.

  Plus, what is the likelihood that me and my friend would lose the magic at the exact same time?

  The other obvious option is that the mushrooms are bunk but it just seems odd with how we trip super hard on the cubes like 1 month ago and that our friend got off super hard on the cyans...:shrug:

  Or a third option that we've been speculating on is that we smoked DMT after the last good mushroom trip and somehow the DMT has made it so we won't trip on mushrooms anymore? Although I feel this is unlikely. Especially because LSD seems to work just fine....

  I'm thinking about eating 7 grams of the cubes maybe during the day the next couple days just to see if they work or not.

  Can mushrooms go from Super potent to nothing and one month's time? Is it possible to lose the magic instantaneously and go from getting super tripped-out to absolutely nothing from one trip to the next?


  Opinions please....:wonka:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23959041 - 12/26/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Depends on the psilocin verses psilocybin content.  Those very from culture to culture.  Might be very potent fresh and have no shelf life verses having a lot of shelf life.


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23959046 - 12/26/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The cubes have been Rock Solid every couple weeks for months and months. Very reliable. We were very surprised when we both got no magic at all!

  Can we go from extremely potent and 4 Weeks Later have no potency? They were cut in a sealed plastic bag in a closet and not exposed to high temperatures or anything like that.:shrug:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23959048 - 12/26/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Psilocin breaks down very easily.  Freezing would be best but everything other than that breaks it down.  Air, light, even room temp breaks it down.


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23959051 - 12/26/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The last two times I did mushrooms they did next to nothing for me.

  3 weeks ago....6g. Of cyans

  1week ago 6g. of tried and true cubes from a batch that we've been eating off of since June and tripping hard as f*** every single time....

  We wrote the cyans  off as bunk they were given to us by a friend and we had no idea of knowing how authentic they were.

  Then a friend that we gave some to reported to us that he tripped harder than he ever had in his life off the very same mushrooms?

  I'm not sure what's up with the cubensis? We ate 6 grams and 6 hits of acid one month ago and it was literally the most intense trip me and my Bro's life!... just awesome!

    I'm not sure exactly what is going on. I don't think that we have lost the magic because we've only been doing things every two weeks and treating it with respect and I can't see how things would go off a cliff and then all the sudden we get absolutely nothing from what is normally a solid to massive type dose.

  Plus, what is the likelihood that me and my friend would lose the magic at the exact same time?

  The other obvious option is that the mushrooms are bunk but it just seems odd with how we trip super hard on the cubes like 1 month ago and that our friend got off super hard on the cyans...:shrug:

  Or a third option that we've been speculating on is that we smoked DMT after the last good mushroom trip and somehow the DMT has made it so we won't trip on mushrooms anymore? Although I feel this is unlikely. Especially because LSD seems to work just fine....

  I'm thinking about eating 7 grams of the cubes maybe during the day the next couple days just to see if they work or not.

  Can mushrooms go from Super potent to nothing and one month's time? Is it possible to lose the magic instantaneously and go from getting super tripped-out to absolutely nothing from one trip to the next?


  Opinions please....:wonka:




Speaking from first hand experience I can tell you long term psilocybin tolerance is a real thing. I took off 2 months from shrooms and still couldn't have a full on trip. Am now abstaining for a lengthy period of time it's now been 5 months and I may wait till next summer until I do them again as if it's not a full on trip it's just not worth it.

People on this very forum tried to tell me long term tolerance doesn't exist they are very wrong as I've confirmed with the same batch of shroom's that I got nothing from fucking up other friends of mine.

Last time I tried I dosed with 5 grams which is supposedly enough for a level 5 trip( full on psychedelic) and other than the come up and some kinda cool CEV it was a dud trip which ended in less than an hour.

My advice to you is to take a few months off and when you go into it again don't have any expectations. Also not sure if you take any medications be sure that these aren't interacting with the shrooms and somehow lessening the trip


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23959068 - 12/26/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Potency caries widely among shrooms.  I would never expect five grams to be a level 5 or anything.  It totally depends on actives.  My best trip came the day after a misfire.  Same shrooms, just ate a lot more and fasted.

Aside from the science of potency and tolerance (which is a set), I find shrooms to be shamanic and that allows for disciplined.  It's an art, science and religion.


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23959257 - 12/26/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The last two times I did mushrooms they did next to nothing for me.

  3 weeks ago....6g. Of cyans

  1week ago 6g. of tried and true cubes from a batch that we've been eating off of since June and tripping hard as f*** every single time....

  We wrote the cyans  off as bunk they were given to us by a friend and we had no idea of knowing how authentic they were.

  Then a friend that we gave some to reported to us that he tripped harder than he ever had in his life off the very same mushrooms?

  I'm not sure what's up with the cubensis? We ate 6 grams and 6 hits of acid one month ago and it was literally the most intense trip me and my Bro's life!... just awesome!

    I'm not sure exactly what is going on. I don't think that we have lost the magic because we've only been doing things every two weeks and treating it with respect and I can't see how things would go off a cliff and then all the sudden we get absolutely nothing from what is normally a solid to massive type dose.

  Plus, what is the likelihood that me and my friend would lose the magic at the exact same time?

  The other obvious option is that the mushrooms are bunk but it just seems odd with how we trip super hard on the cubes like 1 month ago and that our friend got off super hard on the cyans...:shrug:

  Or a third option that we've been speculating on is that we smoked DMT after the last good mushroom trip and somehow the DMT has made it so we won't trip on mushrooms anymore? Although I feel this is unlikely. Especially because LSD seems to work just fine....

  I'm thinking about eating 7 grams of the cubes maybe during the day the next couple days just to see if they work or not.

  Can mushrooms go from Super potent to nothing and one month's time? Is it possible to lose the magic instantaneously and go from getting super tripped-out to absolutely nothing from one trip to the next?


  Opinions please....:wonka:




Speaking from first hand experience I can tell you long term psilocybin tolerance is a real thing. I took off 2 months from shrooms and still couldn't have a full on trip. Am now abstaining for a lengthy period of time it's now been 5 months and I may wait till next summer until I do them again as if it's not a full on trip it's just not worth it.

People on this very forum tried to tell me long term tolerance doesn't exist they are very wrong as I've confirmed with the same batch of shroom's that I got nothing from fucking up other friends of mine.

Last time I tried I dosed with 5 grams which is supposedly enough for a level 5 trip( full on psychedelic) and other than the come up and some kinda cool CEV it was a dud trip which ended in less than an hour.

My advice to you is to take a few months off and when you go into it again don't have any expectations. Also not sure if you take any medications be sure that these aren't interacting with the shrooms and somehow lessening the trip




...but to go from best ever to nothing?....idk....:shrug:

  I just can't imagine the magic just disappearing....right after my greatest trip?

...I feel like I need a fresh batch to know.......:scaryshroom:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23959377 - 12/26/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I feel your pain. Same for me, it sucks.


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23959408 - 12/26/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Same boat, the only thing that still works to some degree is MJ, none of the tryptamines seem to work anymore. Will be abstaining for 6 months or better, but over a month between trips and still nothing isn't very encouraging.


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23959955 - 12/27/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Same boat, the only thing that still works to some degree is MJ, none of the tryptamines seem to work anymore. Will be abstaining for 6 months or better, but over a month between trips and still nothing isn't very encouraging.




  What led up to it?.... why are you tripping an extreme amount of times? Like I said we've been trippin on these mushrooms every two weeks for months even 1 week intervals for a one month. And it just kept getting deeper and deeper and super trippy and then all the sudden in one month's time it turns to absolutely nothing?

  ... it just doesn't seem probable or possible?


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23959966 - 12/27/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've noticed a lot of people are starting to have problems with their trips including myself

One day I'll have a high level 3, the next time with a similar dose I'll get next to nothing and just leaves me shaking my head

I remember back in the summer some guy came on here with a "message from the shrooms" saying that they were pissed at us for using it like a party drug when they are the great teachers warning us to stop

As silly as that post looked at the time, I'm startin to wonder..

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Same boat, the only thing that still works to some degree is MJ, none of the tryptamines seem to work anymore. Will be abstaining for 6 months or better, but over a month between trips and still nothing isn't very encouraging.




I don't think this is gonna work either

I waited 5 fuking months last spring just to have one of the worst trips of my life

I think I'm going back to the way the ancient indians aztecs etc. used to eat them. Not weighing the dose at all and instead just munching on them, slowly, until the body says "stop"

I feel like so many of us are trying to force strong trips, and the shrooms are like "up yours."

I took 5.5 grams on christmas and it was the worst christmas of my life. I'm done trying to force strong trips


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: cube talk]
    #23959983 - 12/27/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I've noticed a lot of people are starting to have problems with their trips including myself

One day I'll have a high level 3, the next time with a similar dose I'll get next to nothing and just leaves me shaking my head

I remember back in the summer some guy came on here with a "message from the shrooms" saying that they were pissed at us for using it like a party drug when they are the great teachers warning us to stop

As silly as that post looked at the time, I'm startin to wonder..

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Eywa_devotee said:
Same boat, the only thing that still works to some degree is MJ, none of the tryptamines seem to work anymore. Will be abstaining for 6 months or better, but over a month between trips and still nothing isn't very encouraging.




I don't think this is gonna work either

I waited 5 fuking months last spring just to have one of the worst trips of my life

I think I'm going back to the way the ancient indians aztecs etc. used to eat them. Not weighing the dose at all and instead just munching on them, slowly, until the body says "stop"

I feel like so many of us are trying to force strong trips, and the shrooms are like "up yours."

I took 5.5 grams on christmas and it was the worst christmas of my life. I'm done trying to force strong trips




  I have a feeling I'm not going to get an answer to my question LOL!

  I just don't understand how I can go from the most intense  trips ever to absolutely nothing?... some "lose the magic posts" seem to refer to losing their magical introspective part but they still claim to be tripping so to say?

  I just don't see how I could take 6 grams of the cyans and feel absolutely nothing? Or the cubes?

Has anyone experienced this from one trip to the next I mean getting super high one time and then getting absolutely nothing the next?:shrug:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23960077 - 12/27/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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cube talk said:
I've noticed a lot of people are starting to have problems with their trips including myself

One day I'll have a high level 3, the next time with a similar dose I'll get next to nothing and just leaves me shaking my head

I remember back in the summer some guy came on here with a "message from the shrooms" saying that they were pissed at us for using it like a party drug when they are the great teachers warning us to stop

As silly as that post looked at the time, I'm startin to wonder..

Quote:

Eywa_devotee said:
Same boat, the only thing that still works to some degree is MJ, none of the tryptamines seem to work anymore. Will be abstaining for 6 months or better, but over a month between trips and still nothing isn't very encouraging.




I don't think this is gonna work either

I waited 5 fuking months last spring just to have one of the worst trips of my life

I think I'm going back to the way the ancient indians aztecs etc. used to eat them. Not weighing the dose at all and instead just munching on them, slowly, until the body says "stop"

I feel like so many of us are trying to force strong trips, and the shrooms are like "up yours."

I took 5.5 grams on christmas and it was the worst christmas of my life. I'm done trying to force strong trips




  I have a feeling I'm not going to get an answer to my question LOL!

  I just don't understand how I can go from the most intense  trips ever to absolutely nothing?... some "lose the magic posts" seem to refer to losing their magical introspective part but they still claim to be tripping so to say?

  I just don't see how I could take 6 grams of the cyans and feel absolutely nothing? Or the cubes?

Has anyone experienced this from one trip to the next I mean getting super high one time and then getting absolutely nothing the next?:shrug:




There is no answer

You have zero tolerance at the rate you were doing them, that's beyond debatable

You have already provided evidence they are without a doubt not bunk

So at this point it comes down to the shrooms themselves, they have a spirit you know


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: cube talk]
    #23960140 - 12/27/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Cray cray... not shure what to make of it.....:shrug:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23960196 - 12/27/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've been there and it sucks. Only thing that I haven't noticed this on was DXM but i don't like to take those 3rd and 4th level platue dxm trips that often anymore


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: cube talk]
    #23960365 - 12/27/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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cube talk said:
I've noticed a lot of people are starting to have problems with their trips including myself

One day I'll have a high level 3, the next time with a similar dose I'll get next to nothing and just leaves me shaking my head

I remember back in the summer some guy came on here with a "message from the shrooms" saying that they were pissed at us for using it like a party drug when they are the great teachers warning us to stop

As silly as that post looked at the time, I'm startin to wonder..

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Eywa_devotee said:
Same boat, the only thing that still works to some degree is MJ, none of the tryptamines seem to work anymore. Will be abstaining for 6 months or better, but over a month between trips and still nothing isn't very encouraging.




I don't think this is gonna work either

I waited 5 fuking months last spring just to have one of the worst trips of my life

I think I'm going back to the way the ancient indians aztecs etc. used to eat them. Not weighing the dose at all and instead just munching on them, slowly, until the body says "stop"

I feel like so many of us are trying to force strong trips, and the shrooms are like "up yours."

I took 5.5 grams on christmas and it was the worst christmas of my life. I'm done trying to force strong trips




  I have a feeling I'm not going to get an answer to my question LOL!

  I just don't understand how I can go from the most intense  trips ever to absolutely nothing?... some "lose the magic posts" seem to refer to losing their magical introspective part but they still claim to be tripping so to say?

  I just don't see how I could take 6 grams of the cyans and feel absolutely nothing? Or the cubes?

Has anyone experienced this from one trip to the next I mean getting super high one time and then getting absolutely nothing the next?:shrug:




There is no answer

You have zero tolerance at the rate you were doing them, that's beyond debatable

You have already provided evidence they are without a doubt not bunk

So at this point it comes down to the shrooms themselves, they have a spirit you know




I disagree the whole notion of as long as you wait two weeks there should be zero tolerance only applies to temporary short term tolerance.

I truly believe if there has been a period where you may have done them multiple times within a two week period then there's a chance you can develop long term tolerance to the shrooms. That's what happened to me anyway I had a 3 gram trip then less than a week later did a 7 gram trip which was the most amazing trip of my life but ever since then even taking one to three months off I still could not acquire a full on " magic " trip and this was dosing on shrooms known to be potent to other people I know.

I have a feeling if you do them too frequently and that includes waiting two weeks that there maybe some residual binding of psilocin in the 5HT2A receptor sites that for whatever reason isn't being fully flushed out which would explain the long term tolerance. According to wiki it binds to tightly to the  5HT2A serotonin receptor and mimics the serotonin effects at that site this would explain the euphoria felt.

It is shown to bind less tightly to the 5-HT1A, 5-HT1D, and 5-HT2C Add to the receptors and has a mild effect in these regions but does still have some effect on them in terms of mood and motivation.

I'm not sure if there's a way to flush out the said receptor which in turn could eliminate all tolerance. Someone had suggested to me that maybe having a breakthrough dose of DMT could do the trick but this seemed like speculation as wasn't backed up with a credible source.

MDMA dosing will not work I know that much as it works on a different set of receptors( TAAR1 and VMAT2) and basically acts as a reuptake inhibitor allowing more serotonin to flood the brain and produce it's effects.

My guess is the only thing that will restore the magic so to speak will be time. and more than a month off I'd aim for 6 months or longer.

The fact that you dosed on any multiple grams of Pan Cyan's should raise a red flag as they are said to be 5 x stronger than regular cubes and the amount you took should have left you almost catatonic that's an insane amount to take for Pans.


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: Dabrit]
    #23960385 - 12/27/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree about the cyans.... the only other person that Adam said he had the best trip of his life!.... I just can't believe I felt literally nothing?... I mean I felt the come up part but when I should have emerged into Mass euphoria it just never happened.

  That does should have totally wrecked me:mindexpanding:

  I'm thinking about doing seven or eight grams of the cubes on Thursday to see if it does anything for me?....


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23960389 - 12/27/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm just trying to determine when people say they lost the magic if that means they felt literally nothing or that it just was missing the quote and quote magical part but they still felt extremely psychedelic and tripped out?:nojustno:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23960391 - 12/27/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I just figured that if I was going to lose the magic it wouldn't happen all of a sudden that it would gradually decrease over several trips:shrug:


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Re: Last 2 mushroom trips didn't work! WTF? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #23960495 - 12/27/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree about the cyans.... the only other person that Adam said he had the best trip of his life!.... I just can't believe I felt literally nothing?... I mean I felt the come up part but when I should have emerged into Mass euphoria it just never happened.

  That does should have totally wrecked me:mindexpanding:

  I'm thinking about doing seven or eight grams of the cubes on Thursday to see if it does anything for me?....




Honestly I'd advise against it man give your brain a break and a chance to refresh itself. If you do 7 grams then you're just hitting restart on the tolerance clock in my mind.

Like I said I tried taking high doses to compensate for the tolerance and all that happened was like you said the come up felt normal but then boom the trip disappeared. So now this meant that even though I'd waited two months I was back to 0 days since last dosing adding more time on to when I would be able to trip again.

I get the want and need to trip for me they are the most fantastic substance known to man they make me feel more like me than I do sober if that even makes sense. Free of ego and self doubt more connected than ever to loved ones and the feeling of joy being restored in the world each and every time if they do in fact " work properly" But if they don't frustration just sets in which is not what you want.

Take the winter off, think forward to the summer and how much more awesome it will be to have a dope ass trip in the middle of the summer starring up at the night sky in awe of just how magical this universe truly is. It'll be worth it sir.


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