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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. [Re: Will7401]
    #23999317 - 01/10/17 10:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Where those pinnies at!!!!!!!


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. [Re: AK1000]
    #23999423 - 01/10/17 10:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Where those pinnies at!!!!!!!




Only been 16 days since I spawned it and this clone is usually pretty slow to pin. However I did do a matching tub with the clone with a thin top layer which I planned to use as a barometer. It looks like it's starting to knot. So hopefully under the extra thick casing the bathtub is also starting to knot.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23999493 - 01/10/17 10:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:rush:

just the thought off all the knots and pins


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23999732 - 01/11/17 12:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It seems common for veterans to dump the sub after 1-2 flushes. Is this because of contamination? Eventually all substrates will contaminate once the mycelium has become weak due to loss of nutrients.

Personally, I want to get as much as I can out of a project. Might as well. The only issue is the contamination. What are other factors I am missing here? maybe space?

My first successful monotub gave me 5 flushes. The last flush was on accident due to laziness. The substrate fell into multiple chunks. So I just threw it all back into the tub to deal with later.

and I got this...


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: MagicFingers] * 1
    #23999750 - 01/11/17 12:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Not necessarily because of contamination.  I've had tubs go about 10 flushes or more with no issue.  The problem is the yield.  Why put your efforts into a tub that's going to yield an ounce or two wet, when you can focus your efforts on a tub that's going to produce a pound or two?


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: MagicFingers] * 1
    #23999753 - 01/11/17 12:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It seems common for veterans to dump the sub after 1-2 flushes. Is this because of contamination? Eventually all substrates will contaminate once the mycelium has become weak due to loss of nutrients.

Personally, I want to get as much as I can out of a project. Might as well. The only issue is the contamination. What are other factors I am missing here? maybe space?

My first successful monotub gave me 5 flushes. The last flush was on accident due to laziness. The substrate fell into multiple chunks. So I just threw it all back into the tub to deal with later.

and I got this...






The clone used for this tub usually puts out this on the first flush. . . (This harvest stretched over 24 hours)



After that the sub barely has enough to put out a few grams for a second flush, but given the weakened state after such and intense flush the sub is ripe for trich to move in. So I usually toss em after one with this clone.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23999786 - 01/11/17 12:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I know you are speaking of a weak substrate. But could part of the problem of weaksauce second flush be due to the substrate being so over-run and abused from the mass growth plus the harvest? I've experimented with putting the substrate on its side or flip it right over. Fresh layer of sub for pins to grow from.

I dunno, maybe I'm crazy. I personally saw some results. One time I did this the bottom side gave me a massive last flush.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: MagicFingers] * 1
    #23999815 - 01/11/17 12:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Try and flip a sub that just pushed out 200% BE. It will crumble into nothing. Try and dunk it and it just becomes sludge. There is almost no hyphae left.

Yeah of I only got 80-130% BE I go for a second flush. Not very often I would find it worthwhile to see 3. Usually APE is the only thing I let go that far.

A good clone must be a one and done deal. Else I'm not keeping it.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23999867 - 01/11/17 01:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

what is "BE"?


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    #23999889 - 01/11/17 01:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Mad Season]
    #23999893 - 01/11/17 01:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23999951 - 01/11/17 02:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Try and flip a sub that just pushed out 200% BE. It will crumble into nothing. Try and dunk it and it just becomes sludge. There is almost no hyphae left.

Yeah of I only got 80-130% BE I go for a second flush. Not very often I would find it worthwhile to see 3. Usually APE is the only thing I let go that far.

A good clone must be a one and done deal. Else I'm not keeping it.




Couldn't agree more.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Mad Season]
    #23999961 - 01/11/17 02:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Biological Efficiency




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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: van hatton] * 1
    #24000322 - 01/11/17 08:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is like 4th or 5th flush, flipped after 2nd flush. 8.5oz dry blob harvest on 1st from 5 quarts spawn so %185 BE. Then I went on pulling about another 5.5oz over the 3 flushes. Here's the last flush from that tub before I tossed it.



Unless I need the room, I'll push subs till they look like a staving ethiopian with a bad crack habbit :shrug:


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24000334 - 01/11/17 08:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thing is PPP it's less efficient. Let's say you are getting 8 oz first flush and 3 oz second. That's still less efficient than getting 11 - 12 oz first flush and when you toss the tub a new one takes its place. If you can keep up the rotation it's a far more efficient use of your fruiting space. Literally when you try to flip a sub that put out 11 oz first flush it just falls apart. There is nothing left to hold it together.

Of course not everyone is concerned with obtaining maximum yields etc. Personally I lose intrest after the first flush and just want the room for a new project that has my attention. The only exception is APE and PE. They seem to do well into later flushes typically.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24000337 - 01/11/17 08:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

any updates? how ya smellin these days?


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: synthetik]
    #24000364 - 01/11/17 08:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I imagine he'll update when he's ready lol


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24000620 - 01/11/17 11:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oh Man! Things are starting to get heated! Sorry, I didn't mean for that topic to explode. But it has been extremely informative. Its nice to see others have played with the idea of flipping the sub as well.

But I do understand what you are saying about with BE now. I haven't done much research on that specific topic. Seems interesting... Obviously, that makes sense if you have a specific room that could only hold X amount of projects and you have a ton of spawn waiting to take their place. It would only make sense to focus on efficiency of time and space.

I would love to get to the point where first flush is 200% BE. I'll have to get your opinion on my future clones. Attempting to clone some on agar now.

How much effort did it take to find a culture that "efficient"?


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: MagicFingers]
    #24000713 - 01/11/17 12:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

A 200% first flush clone is a 1 in 100 find. I have tossed 100's of clones. Keep a few. Isolates are about the same with maybe slightly better odds. But isolates take forever to find and when you test 20, 1 is great, 10 are meh, 5 suck balls, and 4 won't even fruit. Clones at least will deliver a decent result most of the time while you look.


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Re: Pasty spawns a tub. . . and is a drunken asshole. (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24001003 - 01/11/17 02:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Is that 1 clone in a 100 or 1 plate in a hundred taken from clones


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