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Gr0wer
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Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek?
#23957223 - 12/25/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im planning to make some dried mycellium of cordyceps. Does anyone have a solid ratio of water to rice? Im looking to load measured water/rice and PC not cook and load.
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pablokabute
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23957268 - 12/25/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey when did you get a tc tag?

maaan, Ive been itching to try out some cordyceps culture myself, I love cordyceps and I find it really effective when mountain hiking and bike touring... where are you getting your cultures?
Id like to see your progression if you ever pull this off. best of luck.
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tump
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: pablokabute]
#23957430 - 12/25/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know my ratio for rice is 1 cup rice and 3 cups water to full heat and then pc gets me 3.5 cups of perfect content. So the no soak or boil method should 1 to 2.5 ratio. Try it
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Gr0wer
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: tump]
#23957568 - 12/26/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea just got that tag this month 
Looking for a weight ratio vs volume, i do lbs/kgs not cups. Looking to make about 10 lbs dry product, 4 lbs for an order and the rest for 2017 farmers market tincture sales. I'm selling it for $25 lb dry vacuum packed rice, hopefully i get more orders .
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23957573 - 12/26/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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16 oz of rice or 448 gram plus 1344 ml of water.
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Intelligentxfruit
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23957574 - 12/26/16 01:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Out of curiosity are growing sinensis vs militaris?
From what I've read militaris is easier to cultivate than sinensis
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pablokabute
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23957822 - 12/26/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Gr0wer said: Yea just got that tag this month 
Looking for a weight ratio vs volume, i do lbs/kgs not cups. Looking to make about 10 lbs dry product, 4 lbs for an order and the rest for 2017 farmers market tincture sales. I'm selling it for $25 lb dry vacuum packed rice, hopefully i get more orders .
damn. Id like to live my life like that someday. setting up a stall inna farmers market sellin homegrown goodies sounds fun.
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: pablokabute]
#23957925 - 12/26/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No greater than 66% water content, for grains, some prefer 50% water content.
Dry rice - 5% (internal water), x 2 for water, - difference.
Example:
100g - 5% = 95g dry (difference 5). 95 x 2 = 190 (2/3 total parts). 190 - 5 = 185g water.
100g rice + 185g water = 66% water content total. 285g / 3 = 95g.
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Ferather
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Ferather]
#23958352 - 12/26/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Substrate water guide:
x 1 Dry Substrate | 1 Part(s) | 50% Water. x 2 Dry Substrate | 2 Part(s) | 66% Water. x 3 Dry Substrate | 3 Part(s) | 75% Water. x 4 Dry Substrate | 4 Part(s) | 80% Water.
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Quick example:
100g pellets, I want 75% water content. 100g BRF, I want 66% water content.
Pellets:
100g - 5% = 95g dry (difference 5). 95 x 3 = 285 (3/4 total parts). 285 - 5 = 280g water.
100g pellets + 280g water = 75% water content total. 380g / 4 = 95g.
BRF:
100g - 5% = 95g dry (difference 5). 95 x 2 = 190 (2/3 total parts). 190 - 5 = 185g water.
100g rice + 185g water = 66% water content total. 285g / 3 = 95g.
Total water to add: 280g + 185g = 465g
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drake89
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Gr0wer]
#23958672 - 12/26/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Gr0wer said: Im planning to make some dried mycellium of cordyceps. Does anyone have a solid ratio of water to rice? Im looking to load measured water/rice and PC not cook and load.
I couldn't get that to work bUT I was making aspergillus tempeh starter which is dry (30-40% h2o)
Typical too wet on the bottom too dry on top problem
Edited by drake89 (12/26/16 05:18 PM)
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Ferather
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: drake89]
#23958717 - 12/26/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have oven gloves, and depending on the lid setup, you could turn over the jar after pressure drop. That should help balance things out a bit. Can't you DIY some spawn with grain flour?
Just swap the verm for plant fiber material with good holding ability.
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: Ferather]
#23959185 - 12/26/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where did you get the culture Gr0wer? I've been trying to buy this culture since I read about the benefits
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Gr0wer
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: keifnnugs]
#23960781 - 12/27/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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asheville fungi. Its militaris.
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micelio
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Re: Whole brown rice medicinal grain prep tek? [Re: keifnnugs]
#23961143 - 12/27/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do many of kilos of brown rice every week.
I boil the rice no more than 5 minutes, all the time doing the fingernail test.. I would rather have under cook than over cook.
When the grain of rice lets my fingernail cut the grain in two it's time to toss into the extra large home made strainer and a cold water rinse to stop the cooking and rence out the starch...
Now the most important part of the process: Dehydrate the rice..
I built a non heat dehydrating box with a box fan that sets on top blowing air down..
Depending on the ambient temperature It could take 30 min. to 60 min. to dry. Then into my grow bag (.5 micron)
Keep in mind the dryer the better. Just a slight dampness will do.. If it's too wet It becomes mushy and requires allot of time for the heat to reach the center of the bag during pc cycle...
I doubt I can make perfect rice by adding water and then pc.
There seems to be a fine line with rice, where as other grains are more forgiving..
Just my opinion....
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