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Bancaapi

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Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms
#23956076 - 12/25/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay I ate 17 grams fresh and I had a great 4 hr experience (i figured that would be about 1 gram dried) now I gave 7 grams dried to my brother.. I ment to tell him to only eat half but we where drinking and I forgot and I came back from the bathroom and he had them all down. Now he never felt any effects and went to bed 3 hrs later.
So what happened? I just finished cracker drying the mushrooms in a dehydrator and everyone else that has taken them get really high off 3 grams.
We where both pretty drunk... can alcohol have an effect where you dont trip no matter how much you eat?
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Edited by Bancaapi (12/25/16 09:50 AM)
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956083 - 12/25/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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What kinda mushies?
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Bancaapi

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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23956090 - 12/25/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cubensis.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956140 - 12/25/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does your brother take any medication? Alcohol shouldn't effect things much. Are you sure he actually ate them even?
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Bancaapi

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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: krypto2000]
#23956185 - 12/25/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah he takes a grip of stuff... gabas, trazadone, and something for his blood pressure. he is ex military and has PTSD, he was reading that a good mushroom dose would help... and I watched him start eating them then i had to go to the bathroom when i got back all 7 grams where gone and he was chewing them... he likes drugs so i am sure he ate them. just seems like 7 grams should have got him to a level 5 trip easy. again i ment to tell him to only eat half and save half for 3 days later... but yeah no effects. I would think the gabas would have intensified it as they do for most other drugs like opiates. idk i dont want to double that dose next time... I think i will give him fresh ones next time and see and maybe not be wasted on alcohol.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956210 - 12/25/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bancaapi said: yeah he takes a grip of stuff... gabas, trazadone, and something for his blood pressure. he is ex military and has PTSD, he was reading that a good mushroom dose would help... and I watched him start eating them then i had to go to the bathroom when i got back all 7 grams where gone and he was chewing them... he likes drugs so i am sure he ate them. just seems like 7 grams should have got him to a level 5 trip easy. again i ment to tell him to only eat half and save half for 3 days later... but yeah no effects. I would think the gabas would have intensified it as they do for most other drugs like opiates. idk i dont want to double that dose next time... I think i will give him fresh ones next time and see and maybe not be wasted on alcohol.
trazodone and benzodiazepines will basically stop them from tripping.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Eggtimer]
#23956226 - 12/25/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eggtimer said:
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Bancaapi said: yeah he takes a grip of stuff... gabas, trazadone, and something for his blood pressure. he is ex military and has PTSD, he was reading that a good mushroom dose would help... and I watched him start eating them then i had to go to the bathroom when i got back all 7 grams where gone and he was chewing them... he likes drugs so i am sure he ate them. just seems like 7 grams should have got him to a level 5 trip easy. again i ment to tell him to only eat half and save half for 3 days later... but yeah no effects. I would think the gabas would have intensified it as they do for most other drugs like opiates. idk i dont want to double that dose next time... I think i will give him fresh ones next time and see and maybe not be wasted on alcohol.
trazodone and benzodiazepines will basically stop them from tripping.
Qft I was gonna ask that next but usually the answer is no to mess but in this case, alcohol and those meds will supress things very greatly. Also, maybe not a great idea giving someone with PTSD mushrooms, especially when already inebriated.
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Edited by AstralAndrew (12/25/16 11:12 AM)
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Bancaapi

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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Eggtimer]
#23956231 - 12/25/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Perfect I know what happened then. Thats good info!
I was kind of on the verge of a personal trip the other day and I just wanted to kind of come down. It was mainly cause my back started to hurt and i was walking around just looping and couldn't concentrate. So trazadone will take you down.
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Bancaapi

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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23956249 - 12/25/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah... well we where wasted... he has tried acid and stuff so he sorta knows what he is getting into. So he should stop taking his meds for how long you think to dose on mushrooms and get effects? i will assume its the benzos and trazadone.. and he should take his blood pressure and gabas should be fine.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956283 - 12/25/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you just say you guys were drinking before he downed the mushrooms?
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956287 - 12/25/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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He might be on those meds for a reason man...
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23956293 - 12/25/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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And you can't just STOP taking your meds like that, depending on what he's on and what dosage that could kill him.
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Bancaapi

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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956581 - 12/25/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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but its just benzos and trazadone... anxiety and sleep... he doesn't take them all the time.. its not like a required medication. idk i will talk to him.. he really wants to try them. I am thinking just not drinking alcohol... and make sure he don't take a benzo prior.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23956837 - 12/25/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Blood pressure meds are usually sympatholitic meaning they reduce the activity of the sympathetic nervous system(fight or flight). Shrooms are also sympathomimetic meaning they stimulate the sympathetic nervous system.
Since your bro fell asleep in 3 hours(usually impossible on shrooms), it probably meant the magic mushroom chemicals were 'blocked' from entering his system or at least effecting it.
Alcohol shouldn't do anything and I don't know the pathway of benzos(pretty sure dopaminergic) but they are used to treat an overactive sympathetic nervous system too.
Plus trazadone is an SSRI so it reduces the re-uptake of serotonin molecules, which are the molecules the active ingredients in magic mushrooms mimic.
To recap, blood pressure meds and SSRI's mostly likely resulted in your brother not having a decent experience because they block the chemical pathways psilocybin takes.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: sudly]
#23957207 - 12/25/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Benzos can be dangerous to just stop taking.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: Bancaapi]
#23957805 - 12/26/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bancaapi said: but its just benzos and trazadone... anxiety and sleep... he doesn't take them all the time.. its not like a required medication. idk i will talk to him.. he really wants to try them. I am thinking just not drinking alcohol... and make sure he don't take a benzo prior.
SSRI's are something you take every day and will cause slight withdrawal symptoms that feel somewhat flu like when you just stop them without reducing dose. If you do the same with benzos, it can kill you. Why don't you go read about the two medications before just brushing them off like that and suggesting something to someone who may not know the dangers like yourself, not to mention the aforementioned mental illness which in conjunction with psychedelics can often end in disaster.
Just BE CAREFUL.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23957916 - 12/26/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just benzos and anti psychs? Benzos have the worst withdrawals out of any drug IMHO... And anti psychs can cause people mental discomfort if you stop abruptly.
Not sure how you would go about this.
Best coarse of action would be a slow taper... But depending on how long he's been on the meds that could take months of time and agony.
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: impaired420]
#23962097 - 12/28/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Last New Year's Eve I was an idiot once (well, I still am, but that's irrelevant to the story) and drank a bit of alcohol prior to eating shrooms (first time too). There was no "typical" effect at all but the intoxicated feeling quickly dissipated and I passed out shortly thereafter in front of a Domino's pizza box... There was no hangover the next day and I felt great when I should have felt like I was dying.
Side note: mushrooms helped me kick the alcohol habit after a few legit experiences.
People can say that alcohol has no effect, but I can tell you from experience that it did "something."
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: JohnQBensis]
#23962311 - 12/28/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol so drinking on top of all those meds
then you throw shrooms on top of it
you guys are literally the definition of "play stupid games win stupid prizes" just waiting to happen
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Re: Not being able to feel the effects off mushrooms [Re: cube talk]
#23963215 - 12/28/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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cube talk said: lol so drinking on top of all those meds
then you throw shrooms on top of it
you guys are literally the definition of "play stupid games win stupid prizes" just waiting to happen
QFT
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