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CapnZ
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1st time casing - reviews please
#23956048 - 12/25/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Merry Christmas to every one in the community! This is my 1st post in here. I've grown before with good success but always BRF cakes. This is my 1st casing and just looking for comments / advice on optimum fruiting. Here are the particulars:
Strain: GT inoculation: 2.5 mil per 1 lb myco bag of pasteurized rye berries Incubate @ 84 F for 3+ weeks till fully colonized Spawn to bulk - equine dung compost in med size filter patch myco bag. Incubate 12 days until colonized same temp Build casing - bottom layer 0.75" casing mix / 3.5" colonized substrate crumbled / top layer 0.75" casing mix. Cover and inncubate 4 more days Birth to fruiting chamber - automated 64 at sterilite clear. 2 strips of bubble wands across bottom, 3" hydro stone and 2.5 gal distilled water. Dual output air pump running 24/7. Temp 74-75. RH averaging 85-90. I've heard casing do not need quite as much RH as cakes. Timed light source running 14 hours with low level blue heavy light ( Cal Lightworks Solar system programmable). FC on a stand approx 4" clearance at bottom. All of this in a grow tent.
So after 5 days in the FC I have this - pics attached.
Does this look on track? Any comments / experience on pinning time with GT Looks like I have a few.
Any comments / advice welcome. Many thanks in advance!!
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23956056 - 12/25/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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What is the bottom casing layer for?
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mushboy
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: Subnet Mask]
#23956109 - 12/25/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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your tek is old as f.
thats almost how i did my first grow. which was shit btw. where did you read this info??
id ditch the fancy air pumps and shit and make a mono tub for the 'casings' (they are called trays now)
 those air pumps will not provide the fresh air the mushrooms need to thrive.
or just put in totes and leave the lid cracked and mist when needed...


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CapnZ
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: mushboy]
#23956161 - 12/25/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok thanks. Yep been fanning for FAE 3 times a day as well. Sorry forgot to add that. Did a bottom layer based on a number of threads I read. I guess they were old. I have some B+ in the incubator now and was planning to go monotub with them.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23956198 - 12/25/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CapnZ said: fruiting chamber - automated 64 at sterilite clear. 2 strips of bubble wands across bottom, 3" hydro stone and 2.5 gal distilled water. Dual output air pump running 24/7.
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CapnZ said: Yep been fanning for FAE 3 times a day as well. Sorry forgot to add that.
if it is automated then why are you fanning?
im only asking because of 2 things, 1. fanning and fresh air exchange(FAE) are not the same thing at all. fanning is done to help evaporate moisture off the sub surface to induce pinning. 2. mono tubs/sgfc are way more automated then all that stuff you got going on.
mushrooms need water and fresh air. keep it simple.
on a positive note your trays do look decent. keep the surface moist and as much air as you can.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: mushboy]
#23956216 - 12/25/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You used"pasteurized rye" the casing looks fine. But yes keep it simple.
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CapnZ
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: mushboy]
#23956228 - 12/25/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok thanks mush boy. I was thinking the air pumps / hydro stone would primarily push RH into the chamber which is holding nice and steady at 85-90, but was concerned that the air pump may not provide enough fresh air exhange, so I added fanning to help move the air. The casing layer looks nice and moist but not oversatururated. Guess I just need to be patient now - I've heard that pins can take 7 + days. Looks like I do have some decent knots forming.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23956237 - 12/25/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Tump. Rye berries were from Shroom Supply- sterilized bags @ 1 lb each. Yeah guess I got a bit carried away. The B+ mono tubs will be much simpler.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23956242 - 12/25/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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so many people(including myself) get the impression that cubes need all this humidity to grow. rh this and rh that.
its so far from what the mushrooms needs.
post pics daily if you want. people can spot things/help you before something gets weird... if it does
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CapnZ
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: mushboy]
#23956272 - 12/25/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That sounds awesome thanks man! I'm committed to refining my craft / technique. Seriously want to set up a Martha this spring for doing monotubs. I'll post some more pics as things develop...hopefully they do!
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23956279 - 12/25/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You don't need a martha for monotubs. They're self contained.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: Subnet Mask]
#23956288 - 12/25/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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focus your thinking. you have the right ideas floating around but you need to organize them.
the basics. read me start to finish.
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CapnZ
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: mushboy]
#23956360 - 12/25/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok cool thanks for the advice and the link!
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23962274 - 12/28/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok update to this grow. Now day 8, three days since the last post and it looks like I have decent primordia formations. Just waiting to see pins. 2 days ago noticed a bit of gray looking mycelium type growth so gave them a spray with 3% H2O2, 2 times 24 hours apart and I don't see any of that anymore. Please take a look and let me know if these are indeed the beginnings of pins. Thanks!

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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23966099 - 12/29/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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UPDATE. PINS!! Beautiful little brown capped pins! About a dozen showed up just this afternoon. Were not there when I fanned this morning. Who hoo! Won't be long now! I'll post pics when I can.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23966309 - 12/29/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pics?
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: Subnet Mask]
#23966791 - 12/29/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gonna be checking in!
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: CapnZ]
#23966883 - 12/29/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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CapnZ said: Ok update to this grow. Now day 8, three days since the last post and it looks like I have decent primordia formations. Just waiting to see pins. 2 days ago noticed a bit of gray looking mycelium type growth so gave them a spray with 3% H2O2, 2 times 24 hours apart and I don't see any of that anymore. Please take a look and let me know if these are indeed the beginnings of pins. Thanks!


You can do those in a SGFC. I've had good results with those exact trays.
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Re: 1st time casing - reviews please [Re: Subnet Mask]
#23967295 - 12/30/16 04:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok here you go. Sorry could not get the pics last night. 2 trays with a bunch of pins! 3rd tray just starting to pop.

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