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Why money doesn’t bring happyness 3
#23953975 - 12/24/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why money doesn’t bring happyness
I had a reasonable amount of income and money in the bank at one point 20 thousand uk pounds in savings and a income of over 2000 per month buinlding websites in the seo revolution.
We tend to believe money will make us happy but I want to tell you it doesn’t. When I had my money I goit a short happyness. A temporary high from the belief the money gave me but this rapidly fades and you realise you are still just you. Money can’t buy you happyness and when the initial buzz goes ad you realise the truth that it was all an illusion it can hit you badly and you can become depressed. You realise that happyness was always inside you and that you chased a dream. You wasted your time ultimately when you could have been enjoying life here now. Enjoying a sunset. Enjoying a flower. Being here now. I had to go through this to realise I don’t need money. It was a false measure of happyness that my culture and parents taught me to believe in.
The worst thing about money though is that the illusion can increase your desire and greed. These character traits are extremely negative. To become an insatiable greedy person is not good and this is what the money belief system ultimately results in. We all tell ourselves it won’t happen to us. This isn’t true because by the time you’ve done what it takes to get that money you will be trained in aquistion AKA greed and desire. To change this greed once its built up slowly over time is not easy.
Some people who go with the greed for extended time develop another issue on top of this which is discrimination. They hate the poor and respect the rich. They believe in and spread heirarchy. They buy into brand names and status. The are egotistical and self centered. They believe that people that don’t fit into their class system or have the same money or jobs as them are bad. They create an imaginary ranking system in their head based on money. This is what they call status. They lose their humanity and ability to connect with and respect other people. This is deeply saddening to see. Especially if its your friends and family.
When you get money you become more afraid. You want to buy a safe. Buy a bigger meaner looking car. Buy a bigger house. Buy a CCTV and a guard dog to protect it. People fail to realise what they are doing. You are isolating yourself from other people. From reality itself. Only negative beliefs can result from this. People become so afriad they will only socialise with a small click of similarly wealthy folk.
By the end of it all I didn’t want any money. I still don’t. Money is a false measure of ones own happyness. I know what a negative force it is on people and it saddens me deeply when I see the people around me wasting their lives working 9+ hours a day or gambaling or shopping compulsively.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 2
#23953999 - 12/24/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, live in a hut made out of sticks to keep you warm in the Winter and eat raw snails for breakfast lunch and dinner. It's all you'll ever need
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Sheekle]
#23954008 - 12/24/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That sounds extreme
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
#23954027 - 12/24/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Youre not familiar with sheekle?
Great post
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
#23954167 - 12/24/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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you call that money?
Thats getting by, barely at that
I agree with you though. But I also think people have this romanticized view of what "real happiness" actually is, in a practical way. Yeah you should enjoy the little things and be in the moment and all but what are you doing the rest of the day?
You cant sit in blissful wonder for 12 hours a day and be a functional member of society
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Tripsurfer]
#23954174 - 12/24/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah It's a necessity for sure. It's how you integrate it into your life, I guess.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 2
#23954257 - 12/24/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Uhm, it's been proven that money does indeed buy happiness
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 6
#23954315 - 12/24/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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When you need a liver transplant or (insert medical emergency here) that insurance won't cover (because you don't have it) and have to pay out of pocket, lost your job due to said medical emergency and your house is about to be foreclosed on and you are starving to death, then tell me money can't buy happiness.
Regardless of how you feel about it, money in modern society buys security and survival and that equals happiness to a lot of people. Money is just energy. It's neither good nor bad.. how you use it or perceive it is up to you. If you become consumed with it that's you.. Have you ever been homeless for an extended period of time? It fucking sucks. The total lack of money in a society that runs on it can buy unhappiness and suffering. So therefore......
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Shroomism]
#23954324 - 12/24/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whoever said that didn't have enough enough money
Give me a few billion and let the happiness begin
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Good credit can sure buy some "happiness". Got a new car with zero down and I mean nada, and zero percent interest for 4 years. Can't argue with free money. Not everyone gets that deal.
Then, time to borrow on a mortgage, same thing. Even your insurance rate depends on your credit.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
#23954357 - 12/24/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with some points, but the last time I was on an all-inclusive cruise, or spending the night in a nice hotel, I was pretty happy
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 2
#23954392 - 12/24/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can always buy happiness for other people if your such an unhappy little bitch
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: trees]
#23954421 - 12/24/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hope one day we move past money, it seems impossible when we are shackled to it but I have hope eventually helping each other out will take priority over profits and greed.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: musiclover420]
#23954664 - 12/24/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hope one day we move past money, it seems impossible when we are shackled to it but I have hope eventually helping each other out will take priority over profits and greed.
Money is practical, anyone with anything that is considered valuable can become corrupt as a result, but thats more of a greed and power thing
I agree that money can't buy happiness as its been told to us by society, but for food and shelter at least
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 2
#23954676 - 12/24/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1returns said: Why money doesn’t bring happyness
I had a reasonable amount of income and money in the bank at one point 20 thousand uk pounds in savings and a income of over 2000 per month buinlding websites in the seo revolution.
That's shit money bro. You didn't have enough to buy happiness at all. Because trust me on this, money definitely buys happiness
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
#23954717 - 12/24/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Money bought my son's tricycle. I can't make a tricycle. He likes it, he's happy to have it. That makes me happy.
Money is the means to an end. Happiness so too variable to simply say every end is the same. If it were so I would agree but it's not so basifying your needs enough to generalize something so broad just seems like you're trying to validate some insecurity.
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nothing is wrong with currency...it's what is done with currency....
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: akira_akuma]
#23954733 - 12/24/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I could say the same about a lot of things, judging things is part of the human character.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 2
#23954741 - 12/24/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1returns said: Why money doesn’t bring happyness
it doesnt bring you happiness because you want to be a miserable cunt
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I hope one day we move past money, it seems impossible when we are shackled to it but I have hope eventually helping each other out will take priority over profits and greed.
Money is practical, anyone with anything that is considered valuable can become corrupt as a result, but thats more of a greed and power thing
I agree that money can't buy happiness as its been told to us by society, but for food and shelter at least
Yes but Money is a key part of the system of putting a value on everything which is where a ton of greed comes from.
Money only seems practical becouse that is the system we are stuck in. Years from now if we ever find a better system people will probably look back in shame at the amount of terrible things that have happened simply over a currency and the value people give it. Money is a mental shackle of sorts that twists how people think about and view things.
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XLCaps said: I could say the same about a lot of things, judging things is part of the human character.
everything is reflection of human nature...save a sum few menial things, to us humans.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: musiclover420]
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musiclover420 said: Money is a mental shackle of sorts that twists how people think about and view things.
it's too easy, or rather, or society puts too much emphasis on what is easy, and they, frankly, get streamlined into one line of work or another- as opposed to experimenting, or rather, being able to experiment without there being some detriment to the act- that is terms of the person's learning and/or advancement.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: musiclover420]
#23954794 - 12/24/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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XLCaps said: I could say the same about a lot of things, judging things is part of the human character.
everything is reflection of human nature...save a sum few menial things, to us humans.
1+2=me
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I hope one day we move past money, it seems impossible when we are shackled to it but I have hope eventually helping each other out will take priority over profits and greed.
Money is practical, anyone with anything that is considered valuable can become corrupt as a result, but thats more of a greed and power thing
I agree that money can't buy happiness as its been told to us by society, but for food and shelter at least
Yes but Money is a key part of the system of putting a value on everything which is where a ton of greed comes from.
Money only seems practical becouse that is the system we are stuck in. Years from now if we ever find a better system people will probably look back in shame at the amount of terrible things that have happened simply over a currency and the value people give it. Money is a mental shackle of sorts that twists how people think about and view things.
Currency has been used for thousands of years, atleast. Bartering assuredly much longer, which really is just another form of economy. It's not a perfect system but it has been stable and efficient enough to form a strong, interconnected, developed society. The system you envision is an idealist's, and it's simply not practical until we have used the current technology to the point that we are ready and evolved enough to implement it. It seems like a bitch when someone puts it like that it's almost insulting to your individual character, but mob rules, and that has nothing to do with individuality.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
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nice1returns said: Why money doesn’t bring happyness
I had a reasonable amount of income and money in the bank at one point 20 thousand uk pounds in savings and a income of over 2000 per month buinlding websites in the seo revolution.
We tend to believe money will make us happy but I want to tell you it doesn’t. When I had my money I goit a short happyness. A temporary high from the belief the money gave me but this rapidly fades and you realise you are still just you. Money can’t buy you happyness and when the initial buzz goes ad you realise the truth that it was all an illusion it can hit you badly and you can become depressed. You realise that happyness was always inside you and that you chased a dream. You wasted your time ultimately when you could have been enjoying life here now. Enjoying a sunset. Enjoying a flower. Being here now. I had to go through this to realise I don’t need money. It was a false measure of happyness that my culture and parents taught me to believe in.
The worst thing about money though is that the illusion can increase your desire and greed. These character traits are extremely negative. To become an insatiable greedy person is not good and this is what the money belief system ultimately results in. We all tell ourselves it won’t happen to us. This isn’t true because by the time you’ve done what it takes to get that money you will be trained in aquistion AKA greed and desire. To change this greed once its built up slowly over time is not easy.
Some people who go with the greed for extended time develop another issue on top of this which is discrimination. They hate the poor and respect the rich. They believe in and spread heirarchy. They buy into brand names and status. The are egotistical and self centered. They believe that people that don’t fit into their class system or have the same money or jobs as them are bad. They create an imaginary ranking system in their head based on money. This is what they call status. They lose their humanity and ability to connect with and respect other people. This is deeply saddening to see. Especially if its your friends and family.
When you get money you become more afraid. You want to buy a safe. Buy a bigger meaner looking car. Buy a bigger house. Buy a CCTV and a guard dog to protect it. People fail to realise what they are doing. You are isolating yourself from other people. From reality itself. Only negative beliefs can result from this. People become so afriad they will only socialise with a small click of similarly wealthy folk.
By the end of it all I didn’t want any money. I still don’t. Money is a false measure of ones own happyness. I know what a negative force it is on people and it saddens me deeply when I see the people around me wasting their lives working 9+ hours a day or gambaling or shopping compulsively.
Money absolutely buys happiness and the more money you have the more happiness you bring to yourself. The trick is you need to give it away not horde it or play on a hedonistic treadmill
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XLCaps said: I could say the same about a lot of things, judging things is part of the human character.
everything is reflection of human nature...save a sum few menial things, to us humans.
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musiclover420 said: Money is a mental shackle of sorts that twists how people think about and view things.
it's too easy, or rather, or society puts too much emphasis on what is easy, and they, frankly, get streamlined into one line of work or another- as opposed to experimenting, or rather, being able to experiment without there being some detriment to the act- that is terms of the person's learning and/or advancement.
Exactly, the vast majority of people get trapped into a pre arranged lifestyle of sorts due to almost everything being strongly influenced by money.
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XLCaps said: Currency has been used for thousands of years, atleast. Bartering assuredly much longer, which really is just another form of economy. It's not a perfect system but it has been stable and efficient enough to form a strong, interconnected, developed society. The system you envision is an idealist's, and it's simply not practical until we have used the current technology to the point that we are ready and evolved enough to implement it. It seems like a bitch when someone puts it like that it's almost insulting to your individual character, but mob rules, and that has nothing to do with individuality.
I do not have a system envisioned, I just hope one day we find something better then money...
You could call that idealistic but we won't get anywhere thinking like that. It takes trial and error and people actually trying to improve things.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23955051 - 12/24/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lack of money brings unhappiness. Debt sucks.
Excess money does not make you happier but you should have enough to get by comfortably.
Money is a form of condensed energy. Saying money doesnt make you happier is like saying electricity doesnt make you happier. In an electric chair, no, but powering your washer and dryer, fuck yes!
Embrace money as a friend. Dont get greedy or falsely needy but, money is a friend, let it help you.
Money should NOT be fiat and issued by a central bank of course!
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Asante]
#23955237 - 12/24/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're right its just a tool but most people I know claim to have no money and be poor and these people always complain about money yet they have houses and cars and food and drugs? Half the planet has no water or heat or food at all. So what interested me is how over time people can become so convinced they are poor that they end up going to the grave in very expensive coffins with CCTV and big cars still claiming to be poor.
Most of my friends and family I have seen this happening to. The only thing that comes out their mouths when you ask them how they are is something relating back to being unhappy due to wanting more money. I watch many people do this their entire lives and die that way never realising what I have.
The extremes people state here like eating snails or siting in medative bliss 12 hours a day and doing nothing else just highlight the problem more to me. Theres no ability to control ones own emotion. Ones own desire. These extremes show how people can't seem to realise their is a middle ground. People want to take everything to an extreme and this is the state of mind monetary aquirement trains you in. One of excess and false beliefs.
That belief is inside you. Its not an imaginary number in the sky that controls you or your happyness.
I know 20k isn't a huge sum of money but that wasn't my point. I'm not here so say I'm better than you because I saved up some money one time. I was here to tell you my experience of it so if someone else is starting off on that patrh I want to warn them how easy it is to lose your way.
You only have to look around you at the people about you and what they are doing and what they talk about to see the message I'm trying to convey. Those who chooser to judge me and call me a cunt have their own anger they are projecting at me and I'm not gonna respond to that as it doesn't effect me anymore. I've had people trying to harm me since day 1 on this planet. Its just playground monkey tactics. Provide a logical and thoughtful response and we'll talk.
Edited by nice1returns (12/24/16 10:30 PM)
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
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Having more money has brought me happiness. Being able to buy shit I want when I want is fucking great. Don't gotta worry about $$$ for rent or nothing. Feels fucking GREAT.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Uzziel]
#23955345 - 12/24/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Heres a good question I have,
How many people here get more or the same joy from looking at a Starry moon lit night sky than getting a few grand?
If you answer this honestly and really think about the implications then you're getting to the point I'm at with it now.
I've been training myself and slowly the word money has been phased out of my imagination and its only been beneficial to me as a person.
I don't think I can convey my experience with words any better though I think its something we all have to grow through at some point as we grow up but like I said it pains me to see my friends and family just chanting the word money like its their mantra for not experiencing reality.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
#23955351 - 12/24/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's so blind, and exactly what I was saying. The two things are apples and oranges. Yeah the stars are pretty but pretty doesn't fucking do anything for you.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
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I take my few grand and take my woman to to watch the stars on top of some mountain in Chile.
Money I earned bought me a 10 bedroom house. The ability to treat my friends and family to anything. Helping my sister with her university fees. Ect.
I also get great satisfaction and happiness out of working for that money. The sense of satifaction you get when you accomplish a difficult and dangerous task is great.
Its all about how you choose to spend that dough. Having money is all about being able to act, do something about what you usually couldn't do anything about. Do good thing and good thing will come to you.
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nice1returns said: Heres a good question I have,
How many people here get more or the same joy from looking at a Starry moon lit night sky than getting a few grand?
If you answer this honestly and really think about the implications then you're getting to the point I'm at with it now.
I've been training myself and slowly the word money has been phased out of my imagination and its only been beneficial to me as a person.
I don't think I can convey my experience with words any better though I think its something we all have to grow through at some point as we grow up but like I said it pains me to see my friends and family just chanting the word money like its their mantra for not experiencing reality.
money pays my bills
starry moon nights suck when your homeless and it's 20 degrees outside
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 1
#23955373 - 12/24/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1returns said: it pains me to see my friends and family just chanting the word money like its their mantra for not experiencing reality.
Hey I totally feel you on that. I hate the whole striving solely for cash / status deal too. I have family and friends like that as well, that feel all superior cause they have the cash aspect settled, but not other important aspects, such as health, spirituality, universal awareness, ability to see past superficial worldly shit.. etc etc.
I think what we need is a healthy balance of both sides. Like you said, ofc, the peacefulness of gazing at the night sky will bring more joy (atleast for me) than the act of striving for cash or even getting money.
But from how I see it, won't it suck if you have no room to return to after gazing? If you have no food to eat after? If you have no warm cloths while out there in the cold?
Granted, if you're a master survivalist that can like, efficiently live in the woods with nothing but your knowledge of nature, that's a different story. You could eat edible mushrooms / plants.. build a nice hut.. maybe weave yourself some cloths from animal fur.. you'd be set.
But to live in society you need money. The more you have, the more comfortably you can live.
^ That doesn't mean you have to ball out and buy expensive shit. I mean you could save it, and just chill out and live peacefully without too much worry. Right?
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: maxpassin] 1
#23955470 - 12/24/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If money keeps me from dying from medical problems, starving to death and helps prevent me from dying from exposure then it sure makes me happy. If you're ever really sick and can't afford to get help you will understand why money can 'buy' you happiness- it' security and safety in a society that requires it.
You can try and go homeless on the streets, but I guarantee in a society that uses money to keep the wheels running, you're not going to be happy. You can say "oh i'm 'happy' because someone gave me food so I'm thankful" but reality is what if someone didn't take pity on you that night and you had to just go without eating? You aren't going to be very happy feeling like death on the streets.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
#23955516 - 12/25/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Money doesn't make things good, it just makes them easy. You can't buy love, friendship, fulfillment, achievement. You gotta acquire those yourself. And those are the real things that make you happy. Just like K and MDMA
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 2
#23955531 - 12/25/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1returns said: How many people here get more or the same joy from looking at a Starry moon lit night sky than getting a few grand?
If you answer this honestly and really think about the implications then you're getting to the point I'm at with it now.
can a person not enjoy looking at the starry moonlit sky and having money? it seems that if you have money you can afford yourself more time to look into the stars
how about just making your point and stop trying to pretend you're so much better than us because you're miserable with or without money
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23955567 - 12/25/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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money may not buy you happiness but its more comfortable to cry in your Mercedes.
Excess money doesnt buy happiness. But it is needed for happiness. Money provides a way to enjoy life... experiences with others makes you happy... crappy stuff doesnt make you happy.
However life is still life. Money should be spent on shit that matters even if its unnecessary but relates the person such as say... art. Money SHOULD NOT BE SPENT on shit like a fucking fancy blender.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23955587 - 12/25/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most of posts are consistantly about removing ego, exposing heirarchy. As soon as you put any wall between us you can disregard everything I say. I'm not perfect. I don't think I'm better than anyone but I do think I've seen a problem in myself and my immediate family that I know how it operates and how to over come it. Theres a middle path.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Shroomism]
#23955704 - 12/25/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: When you need a liver transplant or (insert medical emergency here) that insurance won't cover (because you don't have it) and have to pay out of pocket, lost your job due to said medical emergency and your house is about to be foreclosed on and you are starving to death, then tell me money can't buy happiness.
Regardless of how you feel about it, money in modern society buys security and survival and that equals happiness to a lot of people. Money is just energy. It's neither good nor bad.. how you use it or perceive it is up to you. If you become consumed with it that's you.. Have you ever been homeless for an extended period of time? It fucking sucks. The total lack of money in a society that runs on it can buy unhappiness and suffering. So therefore......
I wouldn't necessarily say money can buy happiness... but lack of money can most certainly lead to unhappiness, and most often does.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23955757 - 12/25/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is the KEBENE orphanage in Kenya. Right now they have about 50 kids they care for. Right now the kids who can are on christmas vacation with family, but a number of them truly have nowhere to go so they stay at the orphanage.
These are some of them right now, the ones left behind:

Last year they were 42 kids. A pair of flipflops in Kenya costs about one buck, so I spent 42 bucks and got all the kids of the orphanage a pair of flipflops. Of course not all at once, but the ones who needed a new pair, as they needed it. This is their Thank You Card they made of the event:

As a result of this action, the volunteers of KeBeNe (Kenya/Belgium/Netherlands) realized that the children they cared for were their true asset and they made their actions highly personal. They made a new more professional website and made fundraising highly personal. All sponsors get Christmas cards handwritten by the kids now.
As a result of this, the charity grew. More income, more kids they could care for, from barely 42 to over 50 kids.
My 42 bucks, their 42 pairs of flops, it shook them awake, got the ball rolling.
Money sure as HELL makes a difference if you have little of them. It helped me transform a tiny grassroots charity to a bigger one and helped them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and now they have more kids to care for.
I had a part in that 
No way man, if money doesntmakje you happier, find a grassroots charity that actually matters and give them an uptick.
42 bucks, 42 pairs of kids flipflops, a plan and a few emails straight from the heart. God did the rest.
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yes money brings much misery but it can do great things too.
Its what YOU do with it.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] 1
#23955761 - 12/25/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive had plenty of money, ive had no money, happiest I ever have been was when I didn't have that much, but had a good friend or two, some good herb to smoke, and spent plenty of time outdoors hiking, tripping, and taking pictures. One thing I am very grateful for, was having a mom that took me outdoors a lot growing up, I realized one doesn't need much to have a really nice time.
I am not saying money ruins everything, but it seems to pollute many a good souls mind, and this has left a rather bitter taste in my mouth regarding the subject.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Lucis]
#23955857 - 12/25/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just want enough money that I can buy a carton of milk without worrying about my bank balance, honestly.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Shroomism]
#23956286 - 12/25/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: When you need a liver transplant or (insert medical emergency here) that insurance won't cover (because you don't have it) and have to pay out of pocket, lost your job due to said medical emergency and your house is about to be foreclosed on and you are starving to death, then tell me money can't buy happiness.
Regardless of how you feel about it, money in modern society buys security and survival and that equals happiness to a lot of people. Money is just energy. It's neither good nor bad.. how you use it or perceive it is up to you. If you become consumed with it that's you.. Have you ever been homeless for an extended period of time? It fucking sucks. The total lack of money in a society that runs on it can buy unhappiness and suffering. So therefore......
true words.
Money is neither good nor bad, positive nor evil. It can be given away to the poor or used for more frilious, selfish ways.
Money can corrupt if u are sucked into the "rich" culture.
It doesnt have to be that way, takes conscious effort thou to avoid this kind of "evil" thinking.
But i agree niceOne, that money changes your perspective on whats important in life, and in that sense, money can corrupt cause of rich culture.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23956316 - 12/25/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Recently the phone system and internet went down where I live. I happened to be going to the bank that day to pull out some cash. Not that day. "Deposits only". It took about 3 hours of waiting around for them to "get back up". Definitely a glimpse into our future.
Check out Venezuela, India, Australia, Cyprus and Greece for examples. In Venezuela it's such bad hyperinflation and chaos that people are eating pets, waiting in lines for many hours just to get some food, and now the money is so devalued they weigh it rather than count it.
Bail-ins are coming, where the bank takes your money because it's considered a liability to them with the Orwellian rules already in place. They convert your deposits to bank stock, because they can.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Crave] 1
#23957023 - 12/25/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess the best way to phrase it is Financial security brings happiness.
You show me someone who's struggling to keep the roof over their head and feed their family that's truly happy. You don't need to be rich, but money can obtain that security in which you don't have to worry or stress about being homeless and putting you children on the street. That will allow you to experience the joy of other things, in a sense money buys happiness. If you are required to pay money to afford the roof over your head, not having that money is going to make you pretty miserable.
That doesn't mean being rich as fuck and buying Mercedes and yachts will make you happy, but they sure as hell won't make you miserable (provided you aren't doing it all on credit).
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
#23957025 - 12/25/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe money brings comfort. After comfort, happiness is in your own hands. One must learn to love the world he lives in, or not.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
#23957341 - 12/25/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Financial security doesn't bring happiness, it just staves off issues which will likely lead to misery
Money is a means to an end, thinking that it should make one feel miserable or happy is childish
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
#23957424 - 12/25/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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this thread is dum af
smart people will now why its dum af
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
#23957491 - 12/25/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: Financial security doesn't bring happiness, it just staves off issues which will likely lead to misery
Money is a means to an end, thinking that it should make one feel miserable or happy is childish
You really think financial security doesn't lead to happiness? Please expand upon that because what it does is prevent the issues that lead to misery, doesn't just stave them off. Financial security involves properly managing your money- you can be a billionare and be broke in a year if you don't know how to manage your money. That's when money leads to misery...
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
#23957502 - 12/25/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're literally saying money equals happiness? Thats rediculous, I thought you were speaking loosely
All the money in the world wont make you happy without the things which actually make you happy, like personal fulfillment, a sense of purpose, a loving family, etc. Money is neutral, it keeps you floating but you cant pay for purpose or love.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
#23957507 - 12/25/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Money makes me happy til its gone
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
#23957508 - 12/25/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't say money itself equals happiness. You're right it's a means to an end, however that end creates happiness, and you wouldn't have the means to reach that end without the money. Because of that, money does bring you happiness.
Without financial security you're going to find it very difficult to be happy... Especially if you get injured or become ill, especially if it's something that modern medicine can fix or cure. You're going to be flat out miserable at that point. Being healthy due to modern medicine (which isn't exactly free, at least not in the society I live in) allows you to find fulfillment in things you enjoy, but if you can't physicaly do the things you want because you're ill or injured and cannot afford to fix the problem, then you're not going to be happy.
I ski for example- one of the most enjoyable sports I do. You can't ski without skis, without lift tickets, and if you blow your knees out, you're not going to be having fun skiing unless they're surgically repaired... This is just one example.
Another is you've got children who are now homeless because you couldn't afford to put a roof over their head. You're going to be pretty miserable trying to provide for them when you can't.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick] 1
#23957513 - 12/25/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So water brings happiness, proper bowel function brings happiness, sanitation brings happiness Without any of these we would die, so the key to happiness must lay in handwashing
There's plenty of miserable people in the suburbs, racing to their next business meeting, cutting people off with coffee in one hand and their kids in the backseat. They have money, water and sanitation, but something is wrong.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
#23957517 - 12/25/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You have to also realize that most ofthose people have a large amount of debt, and now they're trying to pay it off- they don't have the option to not go to work.
Put yourself in debt with a house mortgage, vehicle loan, credit cards- yeah you have a bunch of awesome shit but now you OWE money, you're not going to be a very happy person. Hence FINANCIAL SECURITY, not just money. Do you not understand what financial security is or brings? I guess when I was in my 20's I didn't realize either.
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
#23957520 - 12/25/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only path to happiness is prostrating oneself before Allah and making war against the infidel
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
#23957523 - 12/25/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
#23957527 - 12/25/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk, looks legit to me
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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
#23957532 - 12/26/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Money buys me food, AC, gas, truck, a place to live. It buys me materialistic objects that takes my hobbies to the next level, furthers my education, catch big fish, grow bigger crops, travel. I am happy, no kids, great girl friend, have good credit, not much debit. Nothing I couldn't pay off if I lost my job. I once read in a book it was a (fiction book) a character said "money makes the world go round, not love! Get it right kid." Or something very close to that.
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