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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23955757 - 12/25/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)




This is the KEBENE orphanage in Kenya. Right now they have about 50 kids they care for. Right now the kids who can are on christmas vacation with family, but a number of them truly have nowhere to go so they stay at the orphanage.

These are some of them right now, the ones left behind:



Last year they were 42 kids. A pair of flipflops in Kenya costs about one buck, so I spent 42 bucks and got all the kids of the orphanage a pair of flipflops. Of course not all at once, but the ones who needed a new pair, as they needed it.  This is their Thank You Card they made of the event:




As a result of this action, the volunteers of KeBeNe (Kenya/Belgium/Netherlands) realized that the children they cared for were their true asset and they made their actions highly personal. They made a new more professional website and made fundraising highly personal. All sponsors get Christmas cards handwritten by the kids now.

As a result of this, the charity grew. More income, more kids they could care for, from barely 42 to over 50 kids.

My 42 bucks, their 42 pairs of flops, it shook them awake, got the ball rolling.

Money sure as HELL makes a difference if you have little of them. It helped me transform a tiny grassroots charity to a bigger one and helped them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and now they have more kids to care for.

I had a part in that :sun:

No way man, if money doesntmakje you happier, find a grassroots charity that actually matters and give them an uptick.

42 bucks, 42 pairs of kids flipflops, a plan and a few emails straight from the heart. God did the rest.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yes money brings much misery but it can do great things too.

Its what YOU do with it.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns] * 1
    #23955761 - 12/25/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Ive had plenty of money, ive had no money, happiest I ever have been was when I didn't have that much, but had a good friend or two, some good herb to smoke, and spent plenty of time outdoors hiking, tripping, and taking pictures.  One thing I am very grateful for, was having a mom that took me outdoors a lot growing up, I realized one doesn't need much to have a really nice time.

I am not saying money ruins everything, but it seems to pollute many a good souls mind, and this has left a rather bitter taste in my mouth regarding the subject.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Lucis]
    #23955857 - 12/25/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I just want enough money that I can buy a carton of milk without worrying about my bank balance, honestly.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Shroomism]
    #23956286 - 12/25/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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When you need a liver transplant or (insert medical emergency here) that insurance won't cover (because you don't have it) and have to pay out of pocket, lost your job due to said medical emergency and your house is about to be foreclosed on and you are starving to death, then tell me money can't buy happiness.

Regardless of how you feel about it, money in modern society buys security and survival and that equals happiness to a lot of people.
Money is just energy. It's neither good nor bad.. how you use it or perceive it is up to you. If you become consumed with it that's you..
Have you ever been homeless for an extended period of time? It fucking sucks. The total lack of money in a society that runs on it can buy unhappiness and suffering. So therefore......





true words.

Money is neither good nor bad, positive nor evil. It can be given away to the poor or used for more frilious, selfish ways.

Money can corrupt if u are sucked into the "rich" culture.

It doesnt have to be that way, takes conscious effort thou to avoid this kind of "evil" thinking.

But i agree niceOne, that money changes your perspective on whats important in life, and in that sense, money can corrupt cause of rich culture.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23956316 - 12/25/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Recently the phone system and internet went down where I live.  I happened to be going to the bank that day to pull out some cash.  Not that day.  "Deposits only".  It took about 3 hours of waiting around for them to "get back up".  Definitely a glimpse into our future.

Check out Venezuela, India, Australia, Cyprus and Greece for examples.  In Venezuela it's such bad hyperinflation and chaos that people are eating pets, waiting in lines for many hours just to get some food, and now the money is so devalued they weigh it rather than count it. 

Bail-ins are coming, where the bank takes your money because it's considered a liability to them with the Orwellian rules already in place.  They convert your deposits to bank stock, because they can.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Crave] * 1
    #23957023 - 12/25/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I guess the best way to phrase it is Financial security brings happiness.


You show me someone who's struggling to keep the roof over their head and feed their family that's truly happy.  You don't need to be rich, but money can obtain that security in which you don't have to worry or stress about being homeless and putting you children on the street. That will allow you to experience the joy of other things,  in a sense money buys happiness.  If you are required to pay money to afford the roof over your head, not having that money is going to make you pretty miserable.


That doesn't mean being rich as fuck and buying Mercedes and yachts will make you happy, but they sure as hell won't make you miserable (provided you aren't doing it all on credit).


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: nice1returns]
    #23957025 - 12/25/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I believe money brings comfort. After comfort, happiness is in your own hands. One must learn to love the world he lives in, or not.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
    #23957341 - 12/25/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Financial security doesn't bring happiness, it just staves off issues which will likely lead to misery

Money is a means to an end, thinking that it should make one feel miserable or happy is childish


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23957424 - 12/25/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

this thread is dum af

smart people will now why its dum af


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23957491 - 12/25/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Financial security doesn't bring happiness, it just staves off issues which will likely lead to misery

Money is a means to an end, thinking that it should make one feel miserable or happy is childish





You really think financial security doesn't lead to happiness?  Please expand upon that because what it does is prevent the issues that lead to misery, doesn't just stave them off.  Financial security involves properly managing your money- you can be a billionare and be broke in a year if you don't know how to manage your money.  That's when money leads to misery...


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
    #23957502 - 12/25/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You're literally saying money equals happiness?
Thats rediculous, I thought you were speaking loosely

All the money in the world wont make you happy without the things which actually make you happy, like personal fulfillment, a sense of purpose, a loving family, etc. Money is neutral, it keeps you floating but you cant pay for purpose or love.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23957507 - 12/25/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Money makes me happy til its gone


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23957508 - 12/25/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't say money itself equals happiness.  You're right it's a means to an end, however that end creates happiness, and you wouldn't have the means to reach that end without the money.  Because of that, money does bring you happiness.

Without financial security you're going to find it very difficult to be happy...  Especially if you get injured or become ill, especially if it's something that modern medicine can fix or cure.  You're going to be flat out miserable at that point.  Being healthy due to modern medicine (which isn't exactly free, at least not in the society I live in) allows you to find fulfillment in things you enjoy, but if you can't physicaly do the things you want because you're ill or injured and cannot afford to fix the problem, then you're not going to be happy.

I ski for example- one of the most enjoyable sports I do.  You can't ski without skis, without lift tickets, and if you blow your knees out, you're not going to be having fun skiing unless they're surgically repaired...  This is just one example.


Another is you've got children who are now homeless because you couldn't afford to put a roof over their head.  You're going to be pretty miserable trying to provide for them when you can't.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick] * 1
    #23957513 - 12/25/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So water brings happiness, proper bowel function brings happiness, sanitation brings happiness
Without any of these we would die, so the key to happiness must lay in handwashing

There's plenty of miserable people in the suburbs, racing to their next business meeting, cutting people off with coffee in one hand and their kids in the backseat. They have money, water and sanitation, but something is wrong.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23957517 - 12/25/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You have to also realize that most ofthose people have a large amount of debt, and now they're trying to pay it off- they don't have the option to not go to work.

Put yourself in debt with a house mortgage, vehicle loan, credit cards- yeah you have a bunch of awesome shit but now you OWE money, you're not going to be a very happy person.  Hence FINANCIAL SECURITY, not just money.  Do you not understand what financial security is or brings?  I guess when I was in my 20's I didn't realize either.


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
    #23957520 - 12/25/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The only path to happiness is prostrating oneself before Allah and making war against the infidel



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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
    #23957523 - 12/25/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Remember, 72 virgins doesn't mean they're gonna be women.  :lolsy:


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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Maverick]
    #23957527 - 12/25/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Idk, looks legit to me



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Re: Why money doesn’t bring happyness [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23957532 - 12/26/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Money buys me food, AC, gas, truck, a place to live. It buys me materialistic objects that takes my hobbies to the next level, furthers my education, catch big fish, grow bigger crops, travel. I am happy, no kids, great girl friend, have good credit, not much debit.  Nothing I couldn't pay off if I lost my job.
I once read in a book it was a (fiction book) a character said "money makes the world go round, not love! Get it right kid." Or something very close to that.


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