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OfflinePatlal
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Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel * 3
    #23953693 - 12/24/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

He abstained from voting at the UN security conunsil and therefore this passed:

Quote:


The measure demands that Israel “immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem” and declares that the establishment of settlements by Israel has “no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law.”





Clearly Obama wants to go out with a bang. Probably the ballsiest thing he's done in his Presidency. That goes against both Israel and Trump. It's pretty much war for Israel. No more US backing of Israel means the hungry dogs around the country will start showing their teeth.

I gotta say, personally, I totally agree that Israel should stop encroaching Palaestine. Fucking Israel shouldn't exist in the first place...

What do you guys think?


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Patlal] * 8
    #23953736 - 12/24/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i think all religion should be abolished; and we should get the shit-show over with


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23953755 - 12/24/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think we should create a revised copy of the bible and renovate the whole religion


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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23953763 - 12/24/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Konyap]
    #23953775 - 12/24/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Konyap said:
US, Israeli Advisors Arrested in Iraq’s Offensive on ISIL: Report
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2015/03/07/677207/us-israeli-advisors-arrested-in-iraq-s-offensive-on-isil-report
ISIS Leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi Trained by Israeli Mossad, NSA Documents Reveal
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593
Clinton: Destroy Syria for Israel
http://newobserveronline.com/clinton-destroy-syria-israel/






for those that couldn't tell ISIL/ISIS was a US-backed group, this just furthers the concept




Quote:

GR Editor’s Note: This report is from Gulf Daily News. It has not been corroborated. The substance of this article regarding the revelation by Edward Snowden (see quotation below) has been questioned.

There is o evidence that Snowden released documents pertaining to Al Baghdadi.





that's not a great way to start an article, though.  if it's not corroborated, DON'T PUBLISH IT!!!


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Konyap]
    #23953778 - 12/24/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23953784 - 12/24/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Exclusive: Turkish intelligence helped ship arms to Syrian Islamist rebel areas
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-turkey-arms-idUSKBN0O61L220150521#LUP0KomUswxYUEOv.97
U.S. Supplies ISIS through Turkey
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-supplies-isis-through-turkey/5512221

arms deals man arms deals..


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Konyap]
    #23953819 - 12/24/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Goddamn, what is news about running guns to ISIS?  What do you think Obama had Hillary running down in Libya?  That whole set-up was a gun-running operation to ISIS and related groups.

But there was nothing there to see right? :smirk:

Well, in another 23 days we won't be kissing Islams ass anymore. :highfive:


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23953842 - 12/24/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was just talking about this with my parents last night such a PUSSY move! He just ignored it wow......:header:


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23953891 - 12/24/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

starfire_xes said:
Well, in another 23 days we won't be kissing *Islams* ass anymore. :highfive:






*Israel's*


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23953907 - 12/24/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

starfire_xes said:
Well, in another 23 days we won't be kissing *Islams* ass anymore. :highfive:







*Israel's*




Trump is a big supporter of Israel so whatcha talkin bout fool?


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5] * 1
    #23953908 - 12/24/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't see how liberals can defend such a spineless position. If you (Obama) want to stand against it, vote no. Abstaining from the vote just makes your last 8 years look that much more pathetic.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: mescalator]
    #23953914 - 12/24/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mescalator said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

starfire_xes said:
Well, in another 23 days we won't be kissing *Islams* ass anymore. :highfive:







*Israel's*




Trump is a big supporter of Israel so whatcha talkin bout fool?






Israel =/= Islam


that's what i'm "talkin bout, fool"


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05]
    #23953916 - 12/24/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

this is proof that Obumble is a Mooslem


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23953926 - 12/24/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

mescalator said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

starfire_xes said:
Well, in another 23 days we won't be kissing *Islams* ass anymore. :highfive:







*Israel's*




Trump is a big supporter of Israel so whatcha talkin bout fool?






Israel =/= Islam


that's what i'm "talkin bout, fool"




You trippin.  :niggawhy:


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Patlal]
    #23953931 - 12/24/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Its hard to stop the movement of people and their want to build and live.  Whether its Mexicans going to the states, Muslims going to Europe or Jews going to Israel.  I understand the want to keep your culture and way of life "pure" and not let the foreigners dilute it.  I understand it, but I don't really agree with it.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: mescalator]
    #23953933 - 12/24/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mescalator said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

mescalator said:
Trump is a big supporter of Israel so whatcha talkin bout fool?






Israel =/= Islam


that's what i'm "talkin bout, fool"




You trippin.  :niggawhy:






either you're trolling or are highly misinformed/uneducated


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05]
    #23953936 - 12/24/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
I don't see how liberals can defend such a spineless position. If you (Obama) want to stand against it, vote no. Abstaining from the vote just makes your last 8 years look that much more pathetic.



How so?
Abstaining is the ultimate hands off policy
Something this country was urged to follow

Hes saying the middle east can go fuck themselves.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: DieCommie] * 1
    #23953939 - 12/24/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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DieCommie said:
Its hard to stop the movement of people and their want to build and live.  Whether its Mexicans going to the states, Muslims going to Europe or Jews going to Israel.  I understand the want to keep your culture and way of life "pure" and not let the foreigners dilute it.  I understand it, but I don't really agree with it.






everyone seems in favor of globalization and the economic benefits thereof, yet don't want to face the realities that come with it, such as migration, expression of ideas, mixing of cultures/religions, and so on


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23953966 - 12/24/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

We're in that awkward grimmace at eachother from a distance phase.

One day we will all be friends :lol:


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23953972 - 12/24/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ModestMouse said:
We're in that awkward grimmace at eachother from a distance phase.

One day we will all be friends :lol:






don't look at me like that, bub

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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23953974 - 12/24/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ModestMouse said:
Quote:

daytripper05 said:
I don't see how liberals can defend such a spineless position. If you (Obama) want to stand against it, vote no. Abstaining from the vote just makes your last 8 years look that much more pathetic.



How so?
Abstaining is the ultimate hands off policy
Something this country was urged to follow

Hes saying the middle east can go fuck themselves.




His hand off policy is exactly what many of us disagree with and why Trump got elected. We are a part of the UN and there was a vote on this. Why wouldn't he just vote no when it has the same implication rather than doing nothing? His half assed hands off approach has led to the civil way in Syria. His hands off policy gave Iran a multi billion dollar ransom payment in cash in the middle of the night for a poorly negotiated nuclear deal. The list goes on...


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05]
    #23953981 - 12/24/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes these conflicts are a result of obamas belief in leseiz faire (sp) and have nothing to do with the responsibility of the nations involved.
:rolleyes:

Let those fuckers fight themselves.
We belong nowhere near the middle east


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23953993 - 12/24/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ModestMouse said:
Yes these conflicts are a result of obamas belief in leseiz faire (sp) and have nothing to do with the responsibility of the nations involved.
:rolleyes:

Let those fuckers fight themselves.
We belong nowhere near the middle eastern





*laissez


if focus was directed towards domestic energy production, which there are a plethora of options available, there would be little to no reason to be involved, aside from America's imperialist, "can't-help-themselves" disability.  that's not as profitable for the higher-ups and would take much time to change current infrastructure, though, which is just too damn difficult so let's continue taking the easy way out, everyone else and the land-base be damned!



daytripper also doesn't seem to want to accept America's role in virtually every civil war/uprising in that region for the last 50-70 years


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23953995 - 12/24/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree that we belong nowhere near the middle east. But that's exactly why we are in the problem. Obama's policies, and specifically secretary of state Clinton, helped lead to a further destabilization in the middle east, as did Bush before that. I think we should have no part in nation building.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23953998 - 12/24/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
Its hard to stop the movement of people and their want to build and live.  Whether its Mexicans going to the states, Muslims going to Europe or Jews going to Israel.  I understand the want to keep your culture and way of life "pure" and not let the foreigners dilute it.  I understand it, but I don't really agree with it.






everyone seems in favor of globalization and the economic benefits thereof, yet don't want to face the realities that come with it, such as migration, expression of ideas, mixing of cultures/religions, and so on




In the end, for the vast majority of people, economic benefit trumps cultural pride and purity.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05] * 1
    #23954001 - 12/24/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
I agree that we belong nowhere near the middle east. But that's exactly why we are in the problem. Obama's policies, and specifically secretary of state Clinton, helped lead to a further destabilization in the middle east, as did Bush before that. I think we should have no part in nation building.






"nation-building"


:rofl2:



ahem



:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23954005 - 12/24/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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daytripper also doesn't seem to want to accept America's role in virtually every civil war/uprising in that region for the last 50-70 years




See my last post. I definitely don't support it. I've stood with the same position as Ron Paul for years in that we need to get out of the affairs of the middle east.

But Obama's in ability to show support to either side and not vote in the UN literally is a poor attempt to save his "legacy" and not support Israel at the same time. It has nothing to do with the issues you guys are rebutting.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23954010 - 12/24/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

daytripper05 said:
I agree that we belong nowhere near the middle east. But that's exactly why we are in the problem. Obama's policies, and specifically secretary of state Clinton, helped lead to a further destabilization in the middle east, as did Bush before that. I think we should have no part in nation building.






"nation-building"


:rofl2:



ahem



:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:




That's an intelligently written post...


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05]
    #23954043 - 12/24/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

daytripper05 said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
daytripper also doesn't seem to want to accept America's role in virtually every civil war/uprising in that region for the last 50-70 years




See my last post. I definitely don't support it. I've stood with the same position as Ron Paul for years in that we need to get out of the affairs of the middle east.

But Obama's in ability to show support to either side and not vote in the UN literally is a poor attempt to save his "legacy" and not support Israel at the same time. It has nothing to do with the issues you guys are rebutting.






this is a domino-effect.  history is incredibly important here.  ultimately all this has little to do, DIRECTLY, with Obama.






Quote:

daytripper05 said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

daytripper05 said:
I agree that we belong nowhere near the middle east. But that's exactly why we are in the problem. Obama's policies, and specifically secretary of state Clinton, helped lead to a further destabilization in the middle east, as did Bush before that. I think we should have no part in nation building.






"nation-building"


:rofl2:



ahem



:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:




That's an intelligently written post...






unintelligent, or flagrantly false posts don't warrant even semi-intelligent responses.  to claim the US has ever been involved in 'nation-building' in that region is just.....wow, man....so far from anything remotely true


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05]
    #23954046 - 12/24/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Israel should be suported IMO. They are the only civilized country in that whole cesspool of a region.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: mescalator]
    #23954049 - 12/24/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mescalator said:
Israel should be suported IMO.





Why?


Quote:

They are the only civilized country in that whole cesspool of a region.





this is not a reason to support your claim



please provide hard evidence to support why you feel Israel should be supported.  And please elaborate who should be supporting them.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23954055 - 12/24/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are you living under a rock dude?

We took out Sadam Hussein and had troops stationed there to train their army and brought "democracy" to Iraq. We literally toppled one government and spent billions of dollars in infrastructure there. I don't know what you call it, but that's what I am calling "nation building", which is exactly what it is.

We spend more money on aid to other nations than our own. This is why people are opposing globalization.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23954063 - 12/24/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
I think we should create a revised copy of the bible and renovate the whole religion





yes, renovate.... that's how I'd put it

normally liberals call it nuking


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: daytripper05]
    #23954069 - 12/24/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Are you living under a rock dude?

We took out Sadam Hussein and had troops stationed there to train their army and brought "democracy" to Iraq. We literally toppled one government and spent billions of dollars in infrastructure there. I don't know what you call it, but that's what I am calling "nation building", which is exactly what it is.

We spend more money on aid to other nations than our own. This is why people are opposing globalization.





many Iraqi citizens claimed things got worse with US involvement.  The sanctions against Iraq, pre-US invasion, were one of the biggest factors, economically and politically, to Iraq's lack of "progress" in those areas.  I'm not defending Hussein in any way, but what was the point of invading either time?  Tens of thousands still died in the years following Hussein's removal and execution, and the governments we tried to setup were as or more corrupt than Hussein, changing hands multiple times.

i don't call that nation-building.  i call it nation-destruction with Iraq having yet to stabilize since


For the record, i'm opposed to globalization, and am a proponent of isolationism or limited trade.  However, barring the US reneging on its debts and fueling the start of World War III, globalism is here to stay.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23954074 - 12/24/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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demiu5 said:
Quote:

mescalator said:
Israel should be suported IMO.





Why?


Quote:

They are the only civilized country in that whole cesspool of a region.





this is not a reason to support your claim






Yes it is.

Quote:



And please elaborate who should be supporting them.




The whole civilized world should suppport Israel.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23954080 - 12/24/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Trump thinks we need more nukes.:shrug:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/23/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-arms-race
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“Let it be an arms race,” the president in waiting was reported to have told Mika Brzezinski, co-host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe programme, in an early phone call on Friday.

According to Brzezinski he went on to say: “We will outmatch them at every pass and outlast them all.”

The incendiary comment followed a tweet on Thursday in which Trump threatened to preside over a major ramping up of the US nuclear arsenal.

The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes,” he wrote.



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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: demiu5]
    #23954083 - 12/24/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with everything you said. I didn't support going into Iraq either way. The first Iraq war in the early 90's was a little before I was really old enough to know what was going on at the time. But looking at the history and various viewpoints, I don't think it was good thing to destabilize it then, or when G.W. Bush did it.

But what we were attempting to do was very much nation building. That's how it was sold to the people and how it was sold to Congress. The outcome and hindsight is 20/20, so we can call it for it is now. But my point is that we have been nation building for way too long, and why I support Trump. If he doesn't carry through on his agenda, then he'll get lumped into that group too. I have hopes that he can start turning things around and make precedents in the other direction.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: mescalator]
    #23954088 - 12/24/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Israel should be suported IMO.





Why?


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They are the only civilized country in that whole cesspool of a region.





this is not a reason to support your claim






Yes it is.

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And please elaborate who should be supporting them.




The whole civilized world should suppport Israel.






in what way(s) should Israel be supported?  why should a nation who has no interest or vestment in Israel support Israel?


again, just because YOU consider a nation to be civilized, is NOT a reason to support them.  Politically, there has to be a give-and-take for one nation to support another.  What can/does Israel provide the US or any other nation, that warrants our/their support for Israel?


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    #23954094 - 12/24/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Trump thinks we need more nukes.:shrug:






how will we maintain a stockpile after nuking israel and the arab nations if we dont have more nukes


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    #23954098 - 12/24/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Politically, there has to be a give-and-take for one nation to support another.





no there doesnt, the US supports many nations that only take and dont give shit back


except maybe terrorists, they'll give us plenty of those


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Politically, there has to be a give-and-take for one nation to support another.





no there doesnt, the US supports many nations that only take and dont give shit back


except maybe terrorists, they'll give us plenty of those






sorry, you're correct here.  the point i'm trying to get at is that supporting a nation without receiving some tangible return on the support (investment) is fiscally inviable


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Patlal]
    #23954136 - 12/24/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Obama is the 'don't do anything and hope it goes away' president. The spineless buffoon has caused more instability in the middle east and the world than a 1000 bushes could have.

Face it, things are fucked up on a national level, an international level, in the economy and in the world in general.  All because of 8 years of Obama.


God, just look at the mess Trump is inheriting. :smirk:


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23954143 - 12/24/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

nation building is bad too in certain area's

the money just goes to the rich most of the time, never trickles down and then on top of that the succesful business that was there gets wipe out overnight or worse...



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Politically, there has to be a give-and-take for one nation to support another.





no there doesnt, the US supports many nations that only take and dont give shit back


except maybe terrorists, they'll give us plenty of those






sorry, you're correct here.  the point i'm trying to get at is that supporting a nation without receiving some tangible return on the support (investment) is fiscally inviable





you mean such as trump's statement about charging these countries in exchange for
fighting their wars instead of paying for the war and then paying to rebuild their
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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: Konyap]
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nation building is bad too in certain area's

the money just goes to the rich most of the time, never trickles down and then on top of that the succesful business that was there gets wipe out overnight or worse...







horse shit

do the rich get out there and build the roads and bridges?


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nation building is bad too in certain area's

the money just goes to the rich most of the time, never trickles down and then on top of that the succesful business that was there gets wipe out overnight or worse...







horse shit

do the rich get out there and build the roads and bridges?




Fuck spending money on roads and bridges.  I just drove down I-8 and I-10 from San Diego again, and they are still working on the same places in the roads they were 20 years ago.  It's a farce, a waste of money designed to line the coffers of special interests. :awedisgust:

the only time the roads and bridges are fucked up is when they are spending money on them.  then they tear them up and back traffic up while a bunch of parolees stand around with their thumbs up their asses holding signs that say 'slow'


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    #23954186 - 12/24/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

they're using prisoners for road construction?

here the prisoners pick up trash and unions do road construction


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Did I say prisoners Pris?  No I said parolees.  Do you know what a parolee is?  Many of them work in contruction or the oil fields.


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    #23954319 - 12/24/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the roads get fucked up

when there's snow and ice on the ground splitting open the cracks... that's why there's no property tax in florida, the inbred mutants don't need the road work as much or the schools...

what you have there my friend is erosion from the wind


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demiu5 said:
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Politically, there has to be a give-and-take for one nation to support another.





no there doesnt, the US supports many nations that only take and dont give shit back


except maybe terrorists, they'll give us plenty of those






sorry, you're correct here.  the point i'm trying to get at is that supporting a nation without receiving some tangible return on the support (investment) is fiscally inviable





you mean such as trump's statement about charging these countries in exchange for
fighting their wars instead of paying for the war and then paying to rebuild their
country





that sounds close to right, however, if the US will actively be involved in their wars, i don't fully agree.  If the US wants to withdraw and allow them to ACTUALLY fight their own wars, then there is no need for us to charge them.  If they want to contract with the US military(ies), they should pay for our services.

To be fair, though, us giving aid is likely a way for the US to keep their foot in the door as political influence, beyond tariffs and sanctions


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Did I say prisoners Pris?  No I said parolees.  Do you know what a parolee is?  Many of them work in contruction or the oil fields.





sorry, I thought prisoner and you were talking union workers


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    #23954667 - 12/24/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I think we should create a revised copy of the bible and renovate the whole religion



to expurgate and abjure some of the dictums of the religions of the world over would be a god thing.


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23954705 - 12/24/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

obama is anti Israel because they are americas most ardent supporter in the war against Islamic terror

Most leftists are now anti Israel because of this very reason

Obama loves Islam and sees nothing wrong with them behaving like assholes in the name of their religion


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    #23954724 - 12/24/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

we'll see what happens. it's all quite fucked.


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    #23954742 - 12/24/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Settlements are a hard right Israeli policy. Israeli has lost much of its moral authority in the past few years.


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obama is anti Israel because they are americas most ardent supporter in the war against Islamic terror

Most leftists are now anti Israel because of this very reason

Obama loves Islam and sees nothing wrong with them behaving like assholes in the name of their religion



You're delusional.

A majority of Jews are against the settlements as well. Are they anti-Israeli and pro Islam?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.599003?v=751C0E187019BA95A8C278AAD576F197


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Re: Obama just took a vicious shot at Israel [Re: hostileuniverse]
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sees nothing wrong with them behaving like assholes in the name of their religion





there would be nothing wrong with them "behaving like assholes in the name of their religion" if it were self-contained.  Hornets don't tend to attack unless provoked.



Tipote made some great points concerning how the violence in those nations has escalated in the last few decades due to external pressures (namely USA and Russia)


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yesh  but Russia and America are friends now. c'mon man.


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Putin and trump are friends. As in, Putin knows about trump banging underage girls and trump has to be his friend


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    #23954920 - 12/24/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

who knows. fact is, trust has to be earned. Russia has earned its trust, how? probably, to my knowledge, not in any way.


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Good, fuck Israel.


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    #23955084 - 12/24/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you are FOR the Jews, you are AGAINST the policies of the state of Israel. Seriously they are killing all credit the Jewish people have with befriended nations and in the Arab world.

COEXIST.

Fucking COEXIST.

They are in very perilous circumstances of course but they are truly doing it WRONG on many counts.

Its not antisemitism to criticize fucking arial bombing neighborhoods in retaliation for terrorist acts.

Get out of your victim role when you are victimizing others. The Palestinians are not the Nazis. They are the ones who lived there until the creation of the new state of Israel swept them out of their homes.

COEXIST.

You want your Jerusalem. So do they.

Build bridges, dont burn them.

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    #23956976 - 12/25/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Obama is the 'don't do anything and hope it goes away' president. The spineless buffoon has caused more instability in the middle east and the world than a 1000 bushes could have.

Face it, things are fucked up on a national level, an international level, in the economy and in the world in general.  All because of 8 years of Obama.


God, just look at the mess Trump is inheriting. :smirk:


You know what is so cool?  KHARMA.





Oh come on do you even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound?

If anything it was obama who inherited the shitshow


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I think we should create a revised copy of the bible and renovate the whole religion




really all religious texts need revising imo, if not outright abandonment





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