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noob 1st time king oyster grow. Sidepinning porn
    #23953301 - 12/24/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Hi guys
This is my 1st time grow of any mushrooms ever. i really want to get better at this fast because im thinking of growing commercially edible mushrooms in my country and building a farm next year(shiitake, king oysters for the start in the country called Mongolia :wink:), cause all the mushrooms in our country comes from either china or korea, so i want to stop the flow of imported mushrooms and produce them here).Im currently growing king oysters at home using SGFC soon to convert a few rooms in my house solely for mushroom production. After educating myself a bit i decided to experiment with bottle tek and also tray grow tek. So this is what i did:
Substrate 80%sawdust,20%wheat bran,gypsum
Used grain spawn, sterilized 8 jars with the substrate and added grain spawn on top. They colonized fairly quickly, i opened the jars, scratched the surface put the half in a SGFC and half into a SGFC like tub but leaving the lid off, used cool mist humidifier for the humidity. the room was fairly cold(As i live in the coldest capital in the world opening the windows for a few hours is enough for cold shock temp).out of 8 jars only 1 started pinning on top(interestingly this was the only jar with the grain spawn on the bottom and substrate on the top) all others started to pin inside the jar. I also made a few trays, mixed the substrate and the grain spawn but on the top layer i added more grain spawn cause i thought that it might prevent contams from the lid...
Lesson i learned is that when you put grain spawn as top layer then it wont pin from the top as the pictures will show. So my question is why is it that they dont pin from the grain spawn layer?




I also noticed my grain spawn jars started to pin because there was an event where someone accidentally opened the windows of the room where the grain spawns where and they started to pin but i looking at the white blobs i thought they were contams so i placed in other room and forgot about it and a few days later i checked and this happened inside the jar. So i decided to break the glass and put it into FC


Also there was a big jar with little substrate in it and it also pinned. I put it into FC for a while but the stems looked too fat telling me because of high CO2 build up so i decided to break the glass and put it into FC


So my questions are: Do you think side pinning occured in jars because the top layer was grain? or do you think it can be because of the shape of the jar?Why it wont pin from the top?

P.S i learned evrything from shroomery, and it is an honor to be a part of this great community. So thank you all


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Re: noob 1st time king oyster grow. Sidepinning porn [Re: Polarizaug]
    #23953476 - 12/24/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't have a good answer so maybe someone else can explain. Welcome to the forum and wish you :goodluck:


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Re: noob 1st time king oyster grow. Sidepinning porn [Re: Quadman]
    #23953762 - 12/24/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wood lovers don't fruit well with limited plant fiber, the reason the top spawn is not working well.
When I do grows I put the spawn at the bottom with substrate on top like you have done.

Most people fully mix the spawn into the substrate. I don't do that often.


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Re: noob 1st time king oyster grow. Sidepinning porn [Re: Ferather]
    #23959227 - 12/26/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck on your grows! I think you have a very good goal, and I hope you can achieve it!


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Re: noob 1st time king oyster grow. Sidepinning porn [Re: RolledUhhp]
    #23961500 - 12/27/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you guys!!!


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Re: noob 1st time king oyster grow. Sidepinning porn [Re: Polarizaug]
    #23964529 - 12/29/16 02:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Polarizaug said:
So my question is why is it that they dont pin from the grain spawn layer?





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Polarizaug said:
Do you think side pinning occured in jars because the top layer was grain? or do you think it can be because of the shape of the jar?Why it wont pin from the top?





Mycelium usually likes to fruit at non-nutritious places it colonized (guess it's how it knows it reached it's natural limits of growth).  That's why casing layers help with pinning, and that is also why it tends to pin from the side of the glass.


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