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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960423 - 12/27/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's kind of scary when people use sarcastic jokes seriously, in turn making themselves a moron. The nutritional profile of those foods are differant then veggies. They are more staple food for calories. Without real veggies you won't get magnesium for sure
I don't understand people that peel potatoes
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Bananas have good magnesium too
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: trees]
#23960526 - 12/27/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does magnesium have good rectal absorption?
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Potatoes are veggies people just eat the least healthy of them 
I pretty much just eat sweet potatoes now and they are the best by far.
Purple sweet potatoes taste amazing, look really cool and are way healthier then the average potatoe.
I still eat normal potatoes occasionally but they are lackluster in comparison.
Sadly I still fry them generally to make home fries which is not the best I know.
Their are actually many different root crops related to potatoes. Look up Andean root crops and you will see. Potatoes are just the most common root crop and also one of the least healthy.
Same thing with corn, sweet corn may not be very healthy but there are other more natural varieties of corn that haven't been bred to be sweet losing much if their nutrition in the process.
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specialpeopleclub said: It's kind of scary when people use sarcastic jokes seriously, in turn making themselves a moron. The nutritional profile of those foods are differant then veggies. They are more staple food for calories. Without real veggies you won't get magnesium for sure
I don't understand people that peel potatoes
I don't peel potatoes either, I actually like the skin. I prefer to dice sweet potatoes without skinning them, just cutting out the eyes only, and then sautée them in a pan.
I don't understand people that peel apples, the skin of the apple is the best part. And it's also where all the vitamins are, is in the skin.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: musiclover420]
#23960621 - 12/27/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Same thing with corn, sweet corn may not be very healthy but there are other more natural varieties of corn that haven't been bred to be sweet losing much if their nutrition in the process.
I agree, sweet potatoes are far superior to regular potatoes. I never eat regular potatoes, only sweet potatoes.
Regarding corn, I was under the impression that corn is impossible for your body to digest, so you actually get almost no nutritional value from corn... if you've ever noticed, every time you eat corn, you eventually pass it almost completely whole in your stool. Which means your body never actually digests that corn.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960642 - 12/27/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still like red potatoes from time to time but sweet potatoes taste way more rich.
Interesting about the corn, I don't eat it too often do I never noticed that.
Native Americans ate a lot of corn and they also ate unmodified corn that may have been easier to digest as well as being more nutritious. It could be a genetic thing though as some people just can't digest certain things as well.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: musiclover420]
#23960648 - 12/27/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Potatoes are veggies people just eat the least healthy of them 
I pretty much just eat sweet potatoes now and they are the best by far.
Purple sweet potatoes taste amazing, look really cool and are way healthier then the average potatoe.
I still eat normal potatoes occasionally but they are lackluster in comparison.
Sadly I still fry them generally to make home fries which is not the best I know.
Their are actually many different root crops related to potatoes. Look up Andean root crops and you will see. Potatoes are just the most common root crop and also one of the least healthy.
Same thing with corn, sweet corn may not be very healthy but there are other more natural varieties of corn that haven't been bred to be sweet losing much if their nutrition in the process.
I'm down with the new world crops.
Ya, not a huge variety of that up here in the midwest
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Sweet potatoes man. Andean root crops, like I said.
New world crops are simply the most common and widespread but there are a lot if lesser known alternatives.
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musiclover420 said: I still like red potatoes from time to time but sweet potatoes taste way more rich.
Interesting about the corn, I don't eat it too often do I never noticed that.
Native Americans ate a lot of corn and they also ate unmodified corn that may have been easier to digest as well as being more nutritious. It could be a genetic thing though as some people just can't digest certain things as well.
This is how our food would look if it was never genetically modified.
Apparently the reason corn is impossible to digest is because of the large amount of cellulose in it, humans don't have an enzyme to break down cellulose which is why corn passes in our stools. I'm sure we absorb and digest some of it, but most of it is unprocessed and passes through into waste.
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specialpeopleclub said: I'm down with the new world crops.
Ya, not a huge variety of that up here in the midwest
I had an older gentleman who grew up in the Midwest tell me that he was raised on a diet of meat and potatoes almost every day. I just can't imagine eating red meat and potatoes every single day, I mean that is such a heavy meal to me... I would feel sick eating that diet for more than 3 days straight.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960717 - 12/27/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was just reading about corns history, pretty crazy how far many plants have come with people selectively growing them. Makes me wonder if modern GMO's are even really neccesarry, of course clearly we can't do everything naturally.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Webster10] 1
#23960780 - 12/27/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Milk is processed and unarguably good for you.
Not really. Cheap mass produced milk is chalked full of hormones, antibiotics, and bunch of other nasty shit. It's also inflammatory, lowers the immune system, and the processing changes the lactose/lactate ratios to make it even harder on digestion. I buy the best local pasteurized milk I can find, but it's literally only for weight gain. I am chronically underweight and milk helps me maintain, otherwise I didn't drink it for like 10 years. Blows me away that people kid themselves into modern milk being a "healthy food", when we are the only animal on the planet that consumes dairy from other species.
Raw milk is by far a better alternative, but it's extremely taboo and people think you get salmonella from it, yet far more people get salmonella from eating Tyson chicken every year than from properly handled and stored raw milk. I'd buy raw milk if I could, but it's fucking illegal, which should tell everyone something. It's ok for people to smoke cigarettes, but I can't assume the health risks of raw milk...
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23960792 - 12/27/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Selective breeding is vastly different than GMO. I buy as much GMO free stuff as possible, but heirloom seeds have been around for generations, none of which are "GMOS" and produce gorgeous fruits and veggies.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: daytripper05]
#23961113 - 12/27/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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daytripper05 said: Not really. Cheap mass produced milk is chalked full of hormones, antibiotics, and bunch of other nasty shit. It's also inflammatory, lowers the immune system, and the processing changes the lactose/lactate ratios to make it even harder on digestion. I buy the best local pasteurized milk I can find, but it's literally only for weight gain. I am chronically underweight and milk helps me maintain, otherwise I didn't drink it for like 10 years. Blows me away that people kid themselves into modern milk being a "healthy food", when we are the only animal on the planet that consumes dairy from other species.
Raw milk is by far a better alternative, but it's extremely taboo and people think you get salmonella from it, yet far more people get salmonella from eating Tyson chicken every year than from properly handled and stored raw milk. I'd buy raw milk if I could, but it's fucking illegal, which should tell everyone something. It's ok for people to smoke cigarettes, but I can't assume the health risks of raw milk...
Even "organic" milk is full of hormones, which makes sense if you think about it... only females who are pregnant or nursing are able to lactate. The milk they produce releases all those hormones they secrete, even without any additional steroids or hormones given to them.
Yeah, I totally forgot to respond that post Webster made too, milk is really not healthy. The whole "milk does the body good" campaign was a big marketing scheme and lie perpetuated by the dairy industry.
In fact, quite a few studies have linked osteoporosis and risk of bone fracture to higher milk consumption, as opposed to the reverse. It appears dairy is actually worse for your bones.
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Myth 1: Milk builds strong bones.
The dairy and bone health link is one of the most pervasive milk myths. One large-scale Harvard study followed 72,000 women for two decades and found no evidence that drinking milk can prevent bone fractures or osteoporosis. Another study of more than 96,000 people found that the more milk men consumed as teenagers, the more bone fractures they experience as adults. Similarly, another study found that adolescent girls who consumed the most calcium, mostly in the form of dairy products, were at greater risk for stress fractures than those consuming less calcium.
http://www.pcrm.org/nbBlog/white-lies-five-milk-myths-debunked
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: daytripper05]
#23961127 - 12/27/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: Milk is processed and unarguably good for you.
Not really. Cheap mass produced milk is chalked full of hormones, antibiotics, and bunch of other nasty shit. It's also inflammatory, lowers the immune system, and the processing changes the lactose/lactate ratios to make it even harder on digestion. I buy the best local pasteurized milk I can find, but it's literally only for weight gain. I am chronically underweight and milk helps me maintain, otherwise I didn't drink it for like 10 years. Blows me away that people kid themselves into modern milk being a "healthy food", when we are the only animal on the planet that consumes dairy from other species.
Raw milk is by far a better alternative, but it's extremely taboo and people think you get salmonella from it, yet far more people get salmonella from eating Tyson chicken every year than from properly handled and stored raw milk. I'd buy raw milk if I could, but it's fucking illegal, which should tell everyone something. It's ok for people to smoke cigarettes, but I can't assume the health risks of raw milk...
I'm not sure about raw milk, I've never tried it. It's just that whole milk is like drinking meat haha. It has good fat and protein, and if anyone is overweight they can drink a lesser fattening milk. It's a very proteinous drink and a lot of people on this forum could benefit from some more protein.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23961279 - 12/27/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cow milk has always grossed me out, I love hemp milk and other nut milks though. They are much more refreshing and nutritional I would say.
Best part is you can literally take almost any nut and blend it up with water and strain it and get a creamy nut milk.
Works great with coconut too and especially help almond hazelnut and cashew.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: musiclover420]
#23961291 - 12/27/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know how raw milk is 'pretentious', but milk isn't meat. It's ful of carbs, and calcium.
I defenately feel much better without milk, and I'm a milk drinking person that defenately comes from a lactose tolerant line of moron Midwestern drunks.
Also, a less fattening milk means you increase the ratio of sugar and protein, and make your milk taste so bas you may as well put water on your cereal
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23961314 - 12/27/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Vegans aren't starved of protein if they know what they're doing.
no they dont, they read natural news and get food advice from the 50 banana guy
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The average adult male is recommended to intake 50g of protein, which can be easily doable with things like beans, peas, sweet potatoes, tofu, brown rice, quinoa, and other complex carbs
it can also be done by sucking 18 dicks but only one will make you $400 a day
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I'd venture to say most vegans and vegetarians are healthier than the average meat-eater.
I'd venture to say you're wrong
skinny doesnt mean healthy
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23961322 - 12/27/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Cow milk has always grossed me out, I love hemp milk and other nut milks though. They are much more refreshing and nutritional I would say.
Best part is you can literally take almost any nut and blend it up with water and strain it and get a creamy nut milk.
jesus fucking christ, you're really going to set this shit up like this and not expect some remark from me, we'll gods damn it, I know it's a trap so I wont even mention that you cant milk a nut unless it's mine or that it has super food properties, nor will I mention this peanut water stuff you drink is actually kinda not even pleasant to those of us that dont believe the vegan lies
so my advice, dont drink nut milk, drink NutMilk®
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23961599 - 12/27/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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daytripper05 said: Not really. Cheap mass produced milk is chalked full of hormones, antibiotics, and bunch of other nasty shit. It's also inflammatory, lowers the immune system, and the processing changes the lactose/lactate ratios to make it even harder on digestion. I buy the best local pasteurized milk I can find, but it's literally only for weight gain. I am chronically underweight and milk helps me maintain, otherwise I didn't drink it for like 10 years. Blows me away that people kid themselves into modern milk being a "healthy food", when we are the only animal on the planet that consumes dairy from other species.
Raw milk is by far a better alternative, but it's extremely taboo and people think you get salmonella from it, yet far more people get salmonella from eating Tyson chicken every year than from properly handled and stored raw milk. I'd buy raw milk if I could, but it's fucking illegal, which should tell everyone something. It's ok for people to smoke cigarettes, but I can't assume the health risks of raw milk...
Even "organic" milk is full of hormones, which makes sense if you think about it... only females who are pregnant or nursing are able to lactate. The milk they produce releases all those hormones they secrete, even without any additional steroids or hormones given to them.
Yeah, I totally forgot to respond that post Webster made too, milk is really not healthy. The whole "milk does the body good" campaign was a big marketing scheme and lie perpetuated by the dairy industry.
In fact, quite a few studies have linked osteoporosis and risk of bone fracture to higher milk consumption, as opposed to the reverse. It appears dairy is actually worse for your bones.
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Myth 1: Milk builds strong bones.
The dairy and bone health link is one of the most pervasive milk myths. One large-scale Harvard study followed 72,000 women for two decades and found no evidence that drinking milk can prevent bone fractures or osteoporosis. Another study of more than 96,000 people found that the more milk men consumed as teenagers, the more bone fractures they experience as adults. Similarly, another study found that adolescent girls who consumed the most calcium, mostly in the form of dairy products, were at greater risk for stress fractures than those consuming less calcium.
http://www.pcrm.org/nbBlog/white-lies-five-milk-myths-debunked
The whole bone health is scam by the milk industry, as you said. Milk at the grocery store is fortified with added vitamins. If milk were so health, why do they have to add vitamins to it to make the claims it helps X, Y, or Z? I don't really buy organic milk, or the major brands at least. I get local milk and pay a deposit for a reusable jug. I could have a milk man on delivery if I wanted.
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