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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: deucedbi9]
#23960064 - 12/27/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most food at the sore is terrible. Now there are some items in the aisles that are not terrible upon inspection Preservative free nuts and dried fruit(most has potassium sorbate) Cooking oils The one salsa at walmart without added sugar
Most of it is not good though. It amazes me people buy so bad. Bad parents raise stupid kids, and almost all parents are bad
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specialpeopleclub said: Most food at the sore is terrible. Now there are some items in the aisles that are not terrible upon inspection Preservative free nuts and dried fruit(most has potassium sorbate) Cooking oils The one salsa at walmart without added sugar
You're shopping at Walmart, no wonder you think everything is terrible. Walmart sells nothing but terrible stuff, even their vegetables and fruits look withered and decayed, and their meats don't always look clean either. I would never buy food at Walmart, you're putting that stuff in your body man.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960105 - 12/27/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not as bad as people think. Their beets, cabbage, greens are passable enough, they have grass fed butter(the other store here doesn't)
It's just ghetto and have customers that leave half eaten food on the shelves
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960126 - 12/27/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: I literally have never cared... about something being processed or preserved. And I still try to eat healthy. I'll eat something processed as shit if it has a good calorie to protein ratio.
What's an example of something processed that you consider healthy?
Because for everything processed out there there's always an unprocessed version that's going to be much healthier. (Examples: Turkey meat, cheese, bread, etc.)
The protein in a solid, processed hot dog would do a lot of the meat-starved vegans on here a lot of good.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Webster10] 3
#23960150 - 12/27/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's not an answer.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Webster10]
#23960157 - 12/27/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vegans aren't starved of protein if they know what they're doing. The average adult male is recommended to intake 50g of protein, which can be easily doable with things like beans, peas, sweet potatoes, tofu, brown rice, quinoa, and other complex carbs.
The problem is a lot of people try out vegan or vegetarian diets without knowing anything about nutrition. Iceberg lettuce, celery, and cucumbers have almost no nutritional value, so if you make these your staples you're not going to make it very far.
I'd venture to say most vegans and vegetarians are healthier than the average meat-eater.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960161 - 12/27/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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stupid Tastykake donuts that I ate when I woke up in the middle of the night
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960163 - 12/27/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've had people look at me weird when I say veggies are good If you don't eat veggies, you won't be healthy.
It isn't an option
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960195 - 12/27/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Vegans aren't starved of protein if they know what they're doing. The average adult male is recommended to intake 50g of protein, which can be easily doable with things like beans, peas, sweet potatoes, tofu, brown rice, quinoa, and other complex carbs.
The problem is a lot of people try out vegan or vegetarian diets without knowing anything about nutrition. Iceberg lettuce, celery, and cucumbers have almost no nutritional value, so if you make these your staples you're not going to make it very far.
I'd venture to say most vegans and vegetarians are healthier than the average meat-eater.
I seriously doubt that most vegans and vegetarians are healthier than the average meat-eater. I mean it's not provable but I doubt it.
50g of protein isn't even close to the amount of protein an adult male should take in. That's like nothing. It's just so obvious that a balanced diet is so much better for you than being a vegan or vegetarian.
@1234 - yes it was. A hot dog is processed. I'd consider it healthy for a lot of the members here. Maybe not for some of the fatties.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: 1234go]
#23960197 - 12/27/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Milk is processed and unarguably good for you.
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specialpeopleclub said: I've had people look at me weird when I say veggies are good If you don't eat veggies, you won't be healthy.
It isn't an option
Exactly, I am disgusted by people who don't eat veggies at all. How the hell do people go through life never eating vegetables?
I never realized just how unhealthy some people are until I moved to the East Coast. When I lived there, I legitimately met people who never drank water. They drank soda, they drank coffee, they occasionally even drank juice... but never would I ever see them drink water. EVER.
It's hilarious, one of my coworkers who I ate out with frequently commented about how healthy I eat all the time. I look down at my meal, and I'm eating steak, with potatoes, and mixed veggies. This is by no means a "healthy meal." I mean seriously, if you consider that "healthy" you are in big trouble.
Anyway, turns out she and her kids eat fast food shit like Taco Bell and McDonald's almost every single day. Her kid is so bad she will refuse to touch a home-cooked meal if she tries to prepare it for her. Atrocious.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Webster10]
#23960212 - 12/27/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Vegans aren't starved of protein if they know what they're doing.
Totally agreed. I go vegan once in a while for a cleansing effect and I use a RAW protein blend to help out. Especially if I'm working out alot.
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Webster10 said: 50g of protein isn't even close to the amount of protein an adult male should take in.
The DRI (Dietary Reference Intake) is 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, or 0.36 grams per pound. This amounts to: 56 grams per day for the average sedentary man. 46 grams per day for the average sedentary woman.
Source: https://authoritynutrition.com/how-much-protein-per-day/
^^ Depends on your goals though. If you're bodybuilding/powerlifting/working out then obviously you need more.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960217 - 12/27/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Every person like that I meet makes me wonder if they are even the same species. The scary part is, it's like, well over half the population that aren't even swear enough to be ashamed of what they put inside them in nonsexual ways
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Webster10]
#23960219 - 12/27/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Webster10 said: 50g of protein isn't even close to the amount of protein an adult male should take in. That's like nothing. It's just so obvious that a balanced diet is so much better for you than being a vegan or vegetarian.
50 grams a day for the average adult male weighing 150lbs is the recommendation by the World Health Organization, the USDA, among other sources. Only for athletes are they recommended to intake more, and even then, I believe athletes are instructed to intake more protein than they should be... the primary reason being nutrition companies trying to push their protein products by suggesting over 1+g/lb of body weight.
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The Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein is a modest 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-protein-do-you-need-every-day-201506188096
If you use the USDA's calculator, you can see how much protein you need per day. The amount you need is far less than what you think: https://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/interactiveDRI/
So I inputted a 30 year old, 5'10" 180lb male, with "low active" levels of activity. The USDA recommends I intake 65 grams of protein per day based on that.
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I seriously doubt that most vegans and vegetarians are healthier than the average meat-eater. I mean it's not provable but I doubt it.
How do you doubt something like that? Have you considered that 1/3rd of the nation, most of whom are meat-eaters, are obese and are crippled with diabetes?
There's a reason that doctors recommend vegetarian diets or decreasing your meat intake when you are riddled with heart disease.
I used to be one of those people that thought you needed some kind of animal protein with every single meal. I don't believe this anymore, and at least once a week nowadays I will try to eat vegan for a day.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960264 - 12/27/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just don't think dieting is as complicated as you all make it out to be. No, I don't have to eat vegan to be healthy, no I don't have to avoid processed or preserved food. I can basically eat whatever the hell I want and stay fit.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Webster10]
#23960277 - 12/27/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody is saying that you have to eat completely vegan to stay healthy. However you absolutely have to eat some fresh vegetables.
In any case, staying fit is a completely different thing from health. You could eat McDonald's every day and stay fit technically, but you aren't going to be healthy.
CT Fletcher is a good example of an extremely fit guy who wasn't healthy. He ate 5 McDouble burgers every single day for years, until one day he had a heart attack and had to have emergency open heart surgery. He was still pretty young at the time, I think probably 40 or something.
If you're eating nothing but canned food and hot dogs every single day, then yes I would be legitimately concerned about your health later on down the road. You might be fine for now, but that's only because you're young.
FYI, hot dogs and bacon have been listed as a carcinogen by the World Health Organization. 
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2015/pdfs/pr240_E.pdf
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960281 - 12/27/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: Nobody is saying that you have to eat completely vegan to stay healthy. However you absolutely have to eat some fresh vegetables.
In any case, staying fit is a completely different thing from health. You could eat McDonald's every day and stay fit technically, but you aren't going to be healthy.
CT Fletcher is a good example of an extremely fit guy who wasn't healthy. He ate 5 McDouble burgers every single day for years, until one day he had a heart attack and had to have emergency open heart surgery.
I had something, but she got it
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960308 - 12/27/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Crystal G said: FYI, hot dogs and bacon have been listed as a carcinogen by the World Health Organization. 
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2015/pdfs/pr240_E.pdf
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Processed meat was classified as carcinogenic to humans (Group 1), based on sufficient evidence in humans that the consumption of processed meat causes colorectal cancer.
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The experts concluded that each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18%. “For an individual, the risk of developing colorectal cancer because of their consumption of processed meat remains small, but this risk increases with the amount of meat consumed,” says Dr Kurt Straif, Head of the IARC Monographs Programme. “In view of the large number of people who consume processed meat, the global impact on cancer incidence is of public health importance.”
So basically, if you're eating shit like hot dogs and bacon occasionally, it's fine. But if you're eating it every day, you should be careful.
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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
#23960327 - 12/27/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard that the areomatic hydrocarbons from overcooking may have played a role
Also, what was the rest of the diet? If you eat hotdogs and fries it isn't the same as eating a steak and veggies
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specialpeopleclub said: Also, what was the rest of the diet? If you eat hotdogs and fries it isn't the same as eating a steak and veggies
Haha, I've actually met people who've tried to rationalize that they eat vegetables because potatoes are a vegetable and they eat French fries.
Potatoes are as much of a vegetable as wheat and corn, lol... I don't consider any of these to be vegetables.
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