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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: pinedownpioneer]
    #23955252 - 12/24/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Shucking oysters sucks(wJen you have hundreds).  My buddy and I harvested ALOT the other year we shucked our ass off.  Next time I'm going to hit the shells hinge with my angle grinder then pop it open outta work nicely for those hard to open suckers




Yeah I've tried to do it at home myself a couple times, it's really time-consuming and if you don't have one of those protector gloves you could end up with lots of cuts and scrapes. I prefer to buy shellfish from Whole Foods now, since they'll shuck it for you in the back and give you a side of lemon and horseradish if you ask.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23955315 - 12/24/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I made the mistake of buying a little tub of Hormel Buffalo Chicken



It was only like $3 and I thought I could use if for sandwiches at work.  The chicken was disgusting though.  It made the meat they put on top of frozen pizzas seem gourmet by comparison.  It literally seemed more like rubber or soft silicone than meat.  I don't know how they screwed it up so bad, don't really want to know.




Worse yet is the "Steak and Peppers" ...inedible, and they go on sale as part of a grocery store's special as a 4 for $20 item


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955319 - 12/24/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Microwavable meals. Canned food aisle. Some Chef Boyardee products, Barilla, Hormel.. Those things have over 1000mgs of sodium. Hormel is even worse with the highest of the three. Some are over 1400mg. Disgusting. The sad part is we sell alot of that stuff.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955490 - 12/24/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Shucking oysters sucks(wJen you have hundreds).  My buddy and I harvested ALOT the other year we shucked our ass off.  Next time I'm going to hit the shells hinge with my angle grinder then pop it open outta work nicely for those hard to open suckers




Yeah I've tried to do it at home myself a couple times, it's really time-consuming and if you don't have one of those protector gloves you could end up with lots of cuts and scrapes. I prefer to buy shellfish from Whole Foods now, since they'll shuck it for you in the back and give you a side of lemon and horseradish if you ask.




I dont blame you. Even with a leather glove it still hurts when you are forcing the oyster knife into a stubborn mollusk and it slips, stabbing yourself in the hand. I'd much rather fillet fish than clean oysters.  Carving big tuna or grouper is fun..at least to me.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: musiclover420]
    #23955537 - 12/25/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah the only beef I buy is generally organic and or free range preferably and its always absolutely delicious.

It's like 8$ a pound or something though so I don't get it too often. Honestly I try to eat less meat when I can.





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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23955550 - 12/25/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah but almost all good beef in general is going to cost around that, roughly $8/lb. At least for good quality steaks, I expect to pay between $8-$12 per lb for a cut like prime rib.

There's a YouTuber who compared an $8/lb steak to a dollar store steak, he ate it and got food poisoning from it after. :ilold:

The dollar store steak even has a different color, it looks more pink like pork or ham instead of beef.




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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955560 - 12/25/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As somebody who used to work at Whole Foods while in college, I can tell you that a lot of the stuff is indeed overpriced, and some of the stuff they sell is even flat-out garbage.

Their infused waters, don't even get me started on those. Don't buy those, ever. Just make it yourself.





why? I mean soaking a hibiscus flower in water doesnt give you any health benefit
that water wouldnt, it may add to the flavor but the whole thing is a scam, eat
the fucking stuff you were going to infuse the water with and make some fucking
tea or something


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Same with their soups, Whole Foods soups come from a plastic bag from another company. And while their soups DO taste really good, and I'm sure the company they buy them from makes them from scratch, customers don't just picture their soup being microwaved out of a plastic bag when they get soup to go.






everything produced in large commercial kitchens are made from scratch, the A-1
sauce you probably wouldnt put on your steaks, made from scratch in a factory
but they do it in huge volumes

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But, with that said, they have a lot of high-quality stuff too, and their beef is one of them. Their cheese and prosciutto section, is always always top-notch. And they always have a cheese expert on duty.

Their seafood, some products are hit and other products are miss. A lot of their seafood for example isn't even sashimi-grade. BUT, they have some pretty good stuff like whole, live sea urchin which they will also prepare for you in the back.




you get the same at any other decent grocery store that isnt posing as a discount
place but you arent forced into feeling guilty for not being a super pretentious
hipster soccer mom


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Their oysters and clams are also the same price as other less expensive competitors ($5.99/lb for New Zealand clams is actually a good deal, you won't find it much cheaper elsewhere in my area). Not only that, they will shuck the oysters and de-shell them for you in the back and give you a side of lemon and horseradish for free if you ask for it. So the seafood stand I strongly recommend from Whole Foods depending on what you get.




in north georgia seafood is expensive as fuck if it's fresh, frozen is still
pricey  but not as bad, I wont buy anything but shellfish out of the seafood
case in my area, I will ask them to get me what they have in the back, I do it
with the meats as well. all that shit came in frozen, they thawed it, sliced it
and put it on display and for that they want to mark it up by $3-$5/lb, I just
purchased a whole bone in prime rib to throw on the grill in the morning, 17lbs
of pretty and tasty beef. I purchase whole tuna loins, cut them to steaks and vac seal them and use as needed



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For ready-made food their BBQ stand is the best bang for its buck, if you go on a weekday they have a daily special, it's $5.99 for a side and an entree like spareribs or pulled pork sandwich or brisket, and it also comes with a roll.





I've rarely ever found Barbecue that I like outside of what I cook



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Taco Tuesday is also a good deal at Whole Foods, you get 3 tacos for $2, and the tacos are pretty decent size too. That's another good deal. But everything else can go fuck itself.




I dont live in california, we dont have enough mexicans to even staff a chipotle
so we're stuck with the retarded bastard cousin, Moe's or we do what I do and
actually go to a taqueria where 2 tacos will fill me for $3


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23955569 - 12/25/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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why? I mean soaking a hibiscus flower in water doesnt give you any health benefit
that water wouldnt, it may add to the flavor but the whole thing is a scam, eat
the fucking stuff you were going to infuse the water with and make some fucking
tea or something




I always thought infused water was just for flavor. I prefer smoothies or teas myself.

Hell, if you go to any restaurant that has a bar, they usually have orange and cucumber slices, you can just ask them to make infused water for you and they'll usually do it no charge.

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you get the same at any other decent grocery store that isnt posing as a discount
place but you arent forced into feeling guilty for not being a super pretentious
hipster soccer mom




It's not quite the same... some of the brands of cheese are the same, but a lot of cheeses that you find at Whole Foods are a completely different quality that other grocery stores don't even come close to. Same with the prosciutto. The prosciutto sold at grocery stores is usually already pre-sliced and sold in packages, but at Whole Foods they have the whole leg of prosciutto that they shave in front of you.

I've found similar legs of prosciutto and salami sold at delis and grocery stores, but the quality and flavor is never quite as good as Whole Foods. There are some things they indisputably do better, and their cheese and prosciutto section is one I will always swear by.

Not only that, but Whole Foods cheese is not that much more expensive than other grocery store cheese, especially when you consider the quality difference.

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in north georgia seafood is expensive as fuck if it's fresh, frozen is still
pricey  but not as bad, I wont buy anything but shellfish out of the seafood
case in my area, I will ask them to get me what they have in the back, I do it
with the meats as well. all that shit came in frozen, they thawed it, sliced it
and put it on display and for that they want to mark it up by $3-$5/lb, I just
purchased a whole bone in prime rib to throw on the grill in the morning, 17lbs
of pretty and tasty beef. I purchase whole tuna loins, cut them to steaks and vac seal them and use as needed




Yeah, seafood is one of those things you really want fresh and live if possible. I've bought frozen clams and squid and stuff a couple of times, but it's always tough and disappointing.

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I've rarely ever found Barbecue that I like outside of what I cook




I bet.... we don't have good BBQ in California, so I was just impressed that Whole Foods actually makes their BBQ sauce from scratch.

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I dont live in california, we dont have enough mexicans to even staff a chipotle
so we're stuck with the retarded bastard cousin, Moe's or we do what I do and
actually go to a taqueria where 2 tacos will fill me for $3




haahhahahhha retarded bastard cousin Moe's


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23955576 - 12/25/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That $1 steak on the grill. Oh yeah that shit is out of bounds delicious looking.

I need to feed my deep freezer full of venison, tuna, wahoo to my German Shep and sell my vacuum sealer to stock up on those $1 steaks. They are already sealed with the flavor locked in. Win win


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955588 - 12/25/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah but almost all good beef in general is going to cost around that, roughly $8/lb. At least for good quality steaks, I expect to pay between $8-$12 per lb for a cut like prime rib.




I just spent $6/lb for prime rib

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There's a YouTuber who compared an $8/lb steak to a dollar store steak, he ate it and got food poisoning from it after. :ilold:




I saw the video, it's horse shit. if he got sick from them it was because of poor
handling on his or the store's part or he's jus5t full of shit, the meat is just
standard or select beef which is a couple of grades lower than what you buy in a
regular store, usually packed with bromelain or other tenderizer. the dollar store
meats are edible but lower grade and thinner cut, you actually spend as much for
it as you would for meat at a publix but because you're buying a 3oz steak instead
of a 12-16oz you dont notice the price difference until you do the math

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The dollar store steak even has a different color, it looks more pink like pork or ham instead of beef.





not all are the same, my mother bought a couple of them and they have resided in
the freezer even though I have about 40lbs of strip, sirloin and ribeye. the
dollar store stuff is like most individually wrapped pieces of fish, they're
packed in water and tenderizers which 'bleaches' them, it's part of why most of
salmon have color added. it also kills the cook-ability of the meats


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955592 - 12/25/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Jars of curry sauce, I figured they were worth a shot but they werent.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23955595 - 12/25/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just spent $6/lb for prime rib




You said it was like 14lbs or something, right? Yeah in that case, that makes sense. You're buying bulk basically, by buying that much, so it's a little cheaper than what you would have paid for 1 or 2 individual steaks.

$6/lb for 14lbs of prime rib is pretty good quality steak, I'm sure if you bought a single 1lb steak of the exact same stuff it would have been $9-$12/lb.

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not all are the same, my mother bought a couple of them and they have resided in
the freezer even though I have about 40lbs of strip, sirloin and ribeye. the
dollar store stuff is like most individually wrapped pieces of fish, they're
packed in water and tenderizers which 'bleaches' them, it's part of why most of
salmon have color added. it also kills the cook-ability of the meats




Why did the dollar store meat shrivel up and shrink so much?

I don't think we have Publix out here... but have you ever tried a Food 4 Less ribeye? If you have you would know just how disgusting chain grocery store beef can be.

IME Costco has really good quality beef, I'll vouch for Costco. I've had excellent prime rib and filet mignon from them.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955597 - 12/25/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Publix is like Vons or Safeway


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23955599 - 12/25/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Jars of curry sauce, I figured they were worth a shot but they werent.




I've tried those jars of curry sauce too, doesn't matter which one you buy they are never good.

I ended up just going to the Asian market and buying Thai green curry paste or powder instead. Just mix it yourself with coconut milk and salt and season to your tastes and it's really that simple.

This is a pretty standard brand that's sold in any Chinese or Asian market.



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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23955601 - 12/25/16 01:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Publix is like Vons or Safeway




That's actually pretty decent then. I've never been to Safeway, but I've gotten sashimi grade ahi tuna steaks from Vons so I know they have good quality stuff.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955604 - 12/25/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah those stores are a good balance in quality and value, in contrast to whole foods or a dollar store.

I might try something like that curry powder, its pretty often that I dont have funds for all the seasonings to make something myself, it pays to have a backup plan


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23955611 - 12/25/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I might try something like that curry powder, its pretty often that I dont have funds for all the seasonings to make something myself, it pays to have a backup plan




Honestly for Thai curry I've tried to find a recipe that doesn't use that curry paste and makes everything from scratch, and it would take you like a week just to procure all the ingredients. There were like 50 different ingredients, and so many of the herbs were so obscure and weren't native to or sold in America. It would be almost impossible to find all the ingredients at the same time to make it completely from scratch.

Bet you anything those Thai restaurants that serve curry use a similar curry paste.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23955613 - 12/25/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I might try something like that curry powder, its pretty often that I dont have funds for all the seasonings to make something myself, it pays to have a backup plan




Also, regarding seasonings, do you have a Mother's market or Sprout's market by you?

That place is the best place to get seasonings... instead of selling individually packaged containers of seasoning for $5 a piece, they sell seasoning by the pound, and you scoop out as much seasoning as you want into a plastic baggie and weigh it out and pay individually. And it's wayyyyy cheaper than buying pre-packaged seasoning.

The prices are great too, for $5 I've gotten 8 different seasonings enough to last me over 2+ years.

You could also just buy a spice rack, you can get a 12-pack of spices for $15 from a place like Walmart or Target.

Here's a 16-jar spice rack, $18 from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/36591519?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227024719917&wl0=&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=40343773472&wl4=pla-78307788752&wl5=9031545&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=36591519&wl13=&veh=sem


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23955615 - 12/25/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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why? I mean soaking a hibiscus flower in water doesnt give you any health benefit
that water wouldnt, it may add to the flavor but the whole thing is a scam, eat
the fucking stuff you were going to infuse the water with and make some fucking
tea or something




I always thought infused water was just for flavor. I prefer smoothies or teas myself.





there's a whole cult of whole foods shoppers that believe in essential oils and
holistic medicine and while foods is more than happy to prey on the brain damaged
morons that are willing to spend money on that shit

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Hell, if you go to any restaurant that has a bar, they usually have orange and cucumber slices, you can just ask them to make infused water for you and they'll usually do it no charge.




yeah, you can get the same thing from low end restaurants if they have the ingredients, most in the south will have lemon but if you believe dropping
a few slices of fruit and some mint leaves into water actually infuses
anything into the water then you deserve to spend $^ on the asparagus water.
you will need to muddle or squeeze these things to even get some flavor

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you get the same at any other decent grocery store that isnt posing as a discount
place but you arent forced into feeling guilty for not being a super pretentious
hipster soccer mom




It's not quite the same... some of the brands of cheese are the same, but a lot of cheeses that you find at Whole Foods are a completely different quality that other grocery stores don't even come close to. Same with the prosciutto. The prosciutto sold at grocery stores is usually already pre-sliced and sold in packages, but at Whole Foods they have the whole leg of prosciutto that they shave in front of you.




we get the same here, not with the prosciutto because we dont have enough hipsters
to warrant them spending that kind of money but of the 2 large stores in the next town, both has a pretty impressive cheese selection and people with a lot of knowledge


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I've found similar legs of prosciutto and salami sold at delis and grocery stores, but the quality and flavor is never quite as good as Whole Foods. There are some things they indisputably do better, and their cheese and prosciutto section is one I will always swear by.




blind taste test, that's the only way to go. 

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Not only that, but Whole Foods cheese is not that much more expensive than other grocery store cheese, especially when you consider the quality difference.





if you're comparing sargento and laughing cow to what's at the cheese counter then
I have bad news for you, there's a huge difference in quality, if you're comparing
cheeses from the cheese counter at different stores, you'll see the quality is
similar if not the same but there's usually a price difference

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Yeah, seafood is one of those things you really want fresh and live if possible. I've bought frozen clams and squid and stuff a couple of times, but it's always tough and disappointing.




shellfish can handle travel under refrigeration pretty well so I have no issues
with buying it out here, if I want fresh seafood I have to go to atlanta, I'm
willing to accept frozen with some items but not a lot

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I dont live in california, we dont have enough mexicans to even staff a chipotle
so we're stuck with the retarded bastard cousin, Moe's or we do what I do and
actually go to a taqueria where 2 tacos will fill me for $3




haahhahahhha retarded bastard cousin Moe's




I have eaten there one time. I've never eaten at a chipotle and I wont ever do so,
not even out of desperation. yes, moe's is chipotle and cafeteria mexxican just
isnt for me. I dont like it, nope, not one bit



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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23955628 - 12/25/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.myspicesage.com/spices-seasonings-herbs/rare-spices-71.html

I've ordered alot of spices easily over $100 worth from this place.  90% of what I ordered I did not know what it was or bother to google it.  My girl friend has all sorts of spices to make whatever she wants.  They also have furmic acid at a great price.


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