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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953517 - 12/24/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I generally avoid using nasty food products.:smirk:

I do use this for eggs, hash browns, salads, sometimes just instead of pepper.
I don't remember actually buying it, probably a leftover Xmas present from last year. :confused:


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23953525 - 12/24/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I made the mistake of buying a little tub of Hormel Buffalo Chicken

It was only like $3 and I thought I could use if for sandwiches at work.  The chicken was disgusting though.  It made the meat they put on top of frozen pizzas seem gourmet by comparison.  It literally seemed more like rubber or soft silicone than meat.  I don't know how they screwed it up so bad, don't really want to know.




OH GOD, that reminds me of those little fake meatballs that come out in some Vietnamese pho shops...

There's these really god-awful meatballs that is served at almost every cheap pho shop, and these meatballs, you can taste that they are so heavily processed they make Oscar Meyer look gourmet in comparison.

Normally when you bite into a meatball it looks like ground meat on the inside, but you bite into this meatball and it looks completely smooth on the inside like a piece of tofu or jello.

And some of these places have pretty decent broth too. Why would you fuck up a bowl of pho with some rancid, wack shit like that?!

THESE!!!! THESE ARE EXACTLY THE FUCKING MEATBALLS IN THIS PICTURE THAT I'M FUCKING TALKING ABOUT!!!!!

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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953537 - 12/24/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That's unsettling.

Another really bad product is Jack Links "jerky" products.  They're like jerky nuggets or something, but they just taste like something I would feed to my dog, and I did end up just using them as dog treats.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953546 - 12/24/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

partially hydrogenated oil, hydrogenated oil, artificial colors/flavors, enriched wheat, MSG, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, potassium and sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate, soy lecithin, polysorbate 80, acesulfame-k, sucralose, aspartame, BHA/BHT, propyl chloride.

You might not be able to avoid all these every time.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Lucis]
    #23953570 - 12/24/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Enriched wheat is just fortified with vitamins and minerals, there's nothing strange or unhealthy about that. MSG likewise has no known health effects, just crazy people who when they know they're eating MSG suddenly get a headache or something yet eat it all the time unknowingly and do not; these are the same people who are allergic to wifi :rolleyes:. There's also no evidence or reason to suspect aspartame might be in any way unhealthy.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: krypto2000] * 1
    #23953592 - 12/24/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have known people that had IBS, crohns, ulcers, or other digestive system disorders, and from abstaining from somethings which are on that list, their symptoms cleared right up.:shrug:

Everyone is different.

I think some people are raised around diets which don't include much of these things, then when they consume them in the quantities which are found in foods, it causes some distress.  I do think some people blow things out of proportion though, but for myself it's a personal choice to abstain from such things, and if the good feeling I have from not consuming these things is just psychosomatic with no real health benefits, then I am OK with that too.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Lucis]
    #23953607 - 12/24/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I was raised on shit processed food.  I can drink whiskey and eat mcdonalds all night and I wake up and my stomach is fine, where some people they would be dying.

I just hate when processed food tastes bad.  IDGAF about health I just want it to taste good.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #23953633 - 12/24/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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IDGAF about health I just want it to taste good.





You should though, I mean it's your choice, your life, but I promise you without being health conscious your later years of life wont be as smooth.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Lucis]
    #23953639 - 12/24/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I mean I do, but I also want to appreciate the abundance and gluttony of our modern world.  I more try to find the middle path.  For an American I'm actually rather healthy, but I'm not one of those that aspire to be some paragon of dietary purity.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Lucis]
    #23953664 - 12/24/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I have known people that had IBS, crohns, ulcers, or other digestive system disorders, and from abstaining from somethings which are on that list, their symptoms cleared right up.:shrug:

Everyone is different.

I think some people are raised around diets which don't include much of these things, then when they consume them in the quantities which are found in foods, it causes some distress.  I do think some people blow things out of proportion though, but for myself it's a personal choice to abstain from such things, and if the good feeling I have from not consuming these things is just psychosomatic with no real health benefits, then I am OK with that too.




A lot of the stuff on that list is bad though, I'm not saying it's all safe, just the 4 or so things I mentioned. I don't doubt that when someone abstains from eating msg that they no longer experience headaches for instance, of course their placebo headache will go away for the same reason it existed in the first place. These people are most likely still eating msg anyway though, they're just not aware of it, and the same is likely true for many of the other things. Unless you have an incredibly strict diet and cook everything yourself it's extremely unlikely that you can actually avoid a lot of things on that list in the first place.

MSG for instance naturally occurs in all kinds of common foods we eat, it's only listed as an ingredient when it's added to it. So some wifi fearing anti vaxxer will eat some chinese food, convince themselves it gives them a headache, go lay down for a few hours binge watching tv and avoiding life, and then go eat some msg loaded cheese for dinner and not have an issue. It's not an msg allergy, it's a mental disorder. They probably had some bs they didn't want to deal with and instead of facing and accepting it they find some medical reason to get out of it, I totally believe they believe it, they've convinced themselves of such, but it's still completely false.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: krypto2000]
    #23953690 - 12/24/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm actually not completely convinced anymore that MSG is that bad for you.

I mean for starters, it's almost impossible to find something pre-packaged at the Japanese market that doesn't have MSG in it. Even all the soy sauce, the broths, the tonkatsu sauce, the sukiyaki sauce, they all contain MSG in it. It's actually almost impossible to find a product that doesn't contain MSG in it.

I am however pretty wary of those fake sugar substitutes, stuff like Splenda.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23953702 - 12/24/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

MSG in small amounts isnt really that harmful.

Sodium is a mineral, glutamic acid is an essential amino acid.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Asante]
    #23953714 - 12/24/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Cody's Lab did a pretty interesting video on MSG



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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953727 - 12/24/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think msg is a natural product of fermentation so it might be impossible to have a traditional soy sauce without it. They might add more to it, I don't know, but it's there anyway. I'm recalling that from memory so take it with a grain of salt, I did not check to verify.

As far as artificial sweeteners I don't know about all of them, but aspartame has been studied extensively and has been around for a very long time now. It's literally one of the most studied chemicals that we consume, if there were something wrong with it we would know by now, but there is just no evidence that there is.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23953730 - 12/24/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I actually have a friend who orders MSG by the pound to use on his food. Says it makes all his food taste so much more amazing.

Of course most people will never crack KFC's secret 11-herb ingredient recipe, because one of the spices I'm sure, is MSG.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953754 - 12/24/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:shrug: I guess you could call it an herb, or at least a spice, but it's more in the category of food additive IMO.

11 herbs and spices and 19 food additives.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23953757 - 12/24/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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:shrug: I guess you could call it an herb, or at least a spice, but it's more in the category of food additive IMO.

11 herbs and spices and 19 food additives.




Are there actually 19 food additives in KFC?

Makes sense.

Hence why people can guess the 11 herbs and spices all they want, and even if they're completely accurate on the spices, it's still never going to taste like KFC. Because KFC probably uses a different type of oil, they probably prepare the chicken by soaking it in some special customized liquid for hours or even days beforehand, and they probably add MSG and all this other chemical shit to make it taste exactly the way it tastes.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953761 - 12/24/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Ajinomoto MSG is the best, beautiful crystal MSG, comes in plastic baggies of 1 pound for 2 bucks or so.


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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23953764 - 12/24/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Nasty Food Stuff and Groceries You Should Avoid [Re: Crystal G]
    #23953825 - 12/24/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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:shrug: I guess you could call it an herb, or at least a spice, but it's more in the category of food additive IMO.

11 herbs and spices and 19 food additives.




Are there actually 19 food additives in KFC?

Makes sense.

Hence why people can guess the 11 herbs and spices all they want, and even if they're completely accurate on the spices, it's still never going to taste like KFC. Because KFC probably uses a different type of oil, they probably prepare the chicken by soaking it in some special customized liquid for hours or even days beforehand, and they probably add MSG and all this other chemical shit to make it taste exactly the way it tastes.




Probably, I was just making a joke tho, I'm not sure the actual number or where the line between spice and additive is in modern corporate food servers.


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