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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23954457 - 12/24/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Updating the stockpile is not an arms race. By its very nature, you are creating weapons designed to exploit enemy weaknesses. This is nothing like what was going on during the Cold War.



I get that you believe yourself to be a foreign policy expert, but the real foreign policy experts at the NYT disagree. We're in an arms race that rivals Cold War level tensions.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23954464 - 12/24/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Perhaps, since you just quoted his words on the subject, you'd be able to point me to where he "calls for an arms race" or "advocates for an arms race."



:lolwut:

I just did, didn't I?



Nope, Trump doesn't seem to advocate or call for an arms race whatsoever.



Good thing we have you to tell us what he says isn't what he means.



All I'm saying is that the liberal media's grave mistake was taking him literally but not seriously.
His supporters take him seriously but not literally.

I'll continue being right and watching the liberal media be wrong, whether you decide to accept it or not :shrug:


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23954468 - 12/24/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

to be fair webster, we really are seemingly still in cold war-esque tensions with russia, especially with all the stuff that happened in the ukraine and all... we are sending some amount of troops to eastern europe for this reason.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: demiu5]
    #23954470 - 12/24/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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nuclear weapons, in and of themselves, are tools of hostility.  how you think that can be removed is asinine.  his comment was in DIRECT RESPONSE to Putin's.  How does that remove hostility or implications?



Because trump isn't a part of the globalist goons that have been fighting a proxy war against him for the last year, he's suggested that they could work together on ISIS and has talked about things he admires about putin. Basically, overall, Putin knows trump is going to be less hostile. Doesn't matter in the type of rhetoric he was engaging in. The globalists were close to starting WWIII with their actions in Syria. Trump isn't going to engage in that kind of corrupt, unnecessary warfare.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23954477 - 12/24/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I hope you're right.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10]
    #23954480 - 12/24/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

we shall see


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: 404]
    #23954491 - 12/24/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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to be fair webster, we really are seemingly still in cold war-esque tensions with russia, especially with all the stuff that happened in the ukraine and all... we are sending some amount of troops to eastern europe for this reason.



Any tension you're sensing is caused by NATO pushing them into a corner, Russia responding and the western media picking a side.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23954507 - 12/24/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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nuclear weapons, in and of themselves, are tools of hostility.  how you think that can be removed is asinine.  his comment was in DIRECT RESPONSE to Putin's.  How does that remove hostility or implications?



Because trump isn't a part of the globalist goons that have been fighting a proxy war against him for the last year, he's suggested that they could work together on ISIS and has talked about things he admires about putin. Basically, overall, Putin knows trump is going to be less hostile. Doesn't matter in the type of rhetoric he was engaging in. The globalists were close to starting WWIII with their actions in Syria. Trump isn't going to engage in that kind of corrupt, unnecessary warfare.







you don't think his international business affiliates classifies him as a "globalist goon?"  he is highly involved in international politics through his business contacts.  he may not be politically involved, but he does have all kinds of political ties and influence.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23954513 - 12/24/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Im not denying that the current administration is in an arms race with Russia and China. What I'm saying is that due to Trump easing our tense relations with Russia, trump is ending the arms race by taking the hostility and implications out of it.






this is not the current administration.  this is Trump. responding in kind to Putin's comments doesn't ease or end hostilities


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10] * 2
    #23954512 - 12/24/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Updating the stockpile is not an arms race. By its very nature, you are creating weapons designed to exploit enemy weaknesses. This is nothing like what was going on during the Cold War.



I get that you believe yourself to be a foreign policy expert, but the real foreign policy experts at the NYT disagree. We're in an arms race that rivals Cold War level tensions.




NYT? Isn't that the liberal media?

I never claimed to be an expert, but I am aware of history, and I also understand that both the U.S. and Russia will continue to abide by the START treaty, which limits the total number of warheads. Neither side plans to go back to nine or ten thousand devices. So how can this be the equivalent of the Cold War arms race? Please enlighten me.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10]
    #23954589 - 12/24/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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to be fair webster, we really are seemingly still in cold war-esque tensions with russia, especially with all the stuff that happened in the ukraine and all... we are sending some amount of troops to eastern europe for this reason.



Any tension you're sensing is caused by NATO pushing them into a corner, Russia responding and the western media picking a side.




pushing them into a corner...? m8, Russia invaded the ukraine, and georgia before that.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: 404] * 1
    #23954600 - 12/24/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Americans thinking they can police the world again.  USA: Hey lets go into Iraq and Afghanistan and oh just to name two of too many invasions.

Russia: We now go into Ukaraine

USA: bad boy

Russia: why u do dis

USA:  :smug:

Russia/USa(at same time) : Twitter War?  :excuseme:

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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: 404]
    #23954607 - 12/24/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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to be fair webster, we really are seemingly still in cold war-esque tensions with russia, especially with all the stuff that happened in the ukraine and all... we are sending some amount of troops to eastern europe for this reason.



Any tension you're sensing is caused by NATO pushing them into a corner, Russia responding and the western media picking a side.




pushing them into a corner...? m8, Russia invaded the ukraine, and georgia before that.



cause they are continually backed into a corner.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: demiu5]
    #23954608 - 12/24/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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nuclear weapons, in and of themselves, are tools of hostility.  how you think that can be removed is asinine.  his comment was in DIRECT RESPONSE to Putin's.  How does that remove hostility or implications?



Because trump isn't a part of the globalist goons that have been fighting a proxy war against him for the last year, he's suggested that they could work together on ISIS and has talked about things he admires about putin. Basically, overall, Putin knows trump is going to be less hostile. Doesn't matter in the type of rhetoric he was engaging in. The globalists were close to starting WWIII with their actions in Syria. Trump isn't going to engage in that kind of corrupt, unnecessary warfare.







you don't think his international business affiliates classifies him as a "globalist goon?"  he is highly involved in international politics through his business contacts.  he may not be politically involved, but he does have all kinds of political ties and influence.



If you're still trying to argue that Trump IS a globalist, you're too far gone to reason with.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23954611 - 12/24/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Updating the stockpile is not an arms race. By its very nature, you are creating weapons designed to exploit enemy weaknesses. This is nothing like what was going on during the Cold War.



I get that you believe yourself to be a foreign policy expert, but the real foreign policy experts at the NYT disagree. We're in an arms race that rivals Cold War level tensions.




NYT? Isn't that the liberal media?

I never claimed to be an expert, but I am aware of history, and I also understand that both the U.S. and Russia will continue to abide by the START treaty, which limits the total number of warheads. Neither side plans to go back to nine or ten thousand devices. So how can this be the equivalent of the Cold War arms race? Please enlighten me.



Read the article and you'd know.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: Webster10]
    #23954618 - 12/24/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Intelligent response.


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    #23954625 - 12/24/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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nuclear weapons, in and of themselves, are tools of hostility.  how you think that can be removed is asinine.  his comment was in DIRECT RESPONSE to Putin's.  How does that remove hostility or implications?



Because trump isn't a part of the globalist goons that have been fighting a proxy war against him for the last year, he's suggested that they could work together on ISIS and has talked about things he admires about putin. Basically, overall, Putin knows trump is going to be less hostile. Doesn't matter in the type of rhetoric he was engaging in. The globalists were close to starting WWIII with their actions in Syria. Trump isn't going to engage in that kind of corrupt, unnecessary warfare.







you don't think his international business affiliates classifies him as a "globalist goon?"  he is highly involved in international politics through his business contacts.  he may not be politically involved, but he does have all kinds of political ties and influence.



If you're still trying to argue that Trump IS a globalist, you're too far gone to reason with.





so someone who is an internationally active businessman and has his production lines in non-USA countries isn't a globalist?


are you kidding me?


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: demiu5]
    #23954930 - 12/24/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

He did what was most advantageous for his business. His sorts of practices were made legal by globalist politicians. He is already taking steps to reverse their globalist policies.


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    #23954948 - 12/24/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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He did what was most advantageous for his business.






yes, he did, at the expense of American jobs and for his own profit margin.  and in his campaigns, he railed against those sorts of tactics.  he is a globalist hypocrite, as you are a hypocrite.


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Re: What is this nuclear "arms race" bullshit i'm hearing from the news? [Re: demiu5]
    #23954968 - 12/24/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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He did what was most advantageous for his business.






yes, he did, at the expense of American jobs and for his own profit margin.  and in his campaigns, he railed against those sorts of tactics.  he is a globalist hypocrite, as you are a hypocrite.



See, you're confused. I'll break it down for you in a way you'll be able to understand.

What a hypocrite would do:
>Trump uses globalist policies to his advantage
>Trump campaigns against globalist policies
>Trump is elected
>Trump doesn't repeal globalist policies
>Trump continues to use globalist policies to his business' advantage

What Trump is actually doing
>Trump uses globalist policies to his advantage
>Trump campaigns against globalist policises
>Trump is elected
>Trump begins to repeal globalist policies
>Trump brings investment and blue collar jobs back into the US.

Trump said over and over again during his campaign that he indeed used to be one of those people. One of the top 1% globalists. He admitted that he had used globalist policies to his advantage and even engaged in shrmoozing polciticans with money to get what he wants. He made it a HUGE point of his campaign that he is qualified to fix problems like that because he knows what goes on behind closed doors better than anyone.


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