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OfflineMarkosheehan
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pyschedelic chemists
    #23951684 - 12/23/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

can some one give a list of pyschedelic chemists who spcialises in  Medicinal and ChemistryMolecular Pharmacology and Toxicology that are alive to day and would be contactable other people  like david nichols


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: Markosheehan] * 2
    #23951690 - 12/23/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: The Mycologist] * 2
    #23951759 - 12/23/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Let me guess OP...

You've decided that after making nothing but posts about the possibility of heart problems while taking weed or shrooms (you've posted about absolutely nothing else), and after people telling you either that there is no such risk, or that if you're so concerned, to stop using them, you've now decided you're no longer happy with what you got from us and want a "psychedelic chemist" to ask whether it's safe. Yes? Am I far off?

If you'd posted about anything else I'd think I might be...but I don't think I'm far off, so let's examine the situation and your request.

First off, why are you coming to a forum dedicated to (for most of the world) illegal drugs and asking a bunch of random assholes on the internet a question which you believe will have life and death consequences for you? Seriously, why do you think anywhere on the internet, let alone here is the place to come for life and death questions?

Second off, given the almost worldwide ban on psychedelics in first world countries, who the fuck do you think has the job title "psychedelic chemist", and how do you think they manage to secure funding to do things like study the effects of psychedelics on the heart, except when the DEA wants some new anti-drug propaganda to throw out there and asks for someone to shoot up rats with obscene amounts of drugs for months on end and write about all the terrible shit that happens to them?

Last, what the fuck kind of professional do you think is going to tell some random asshole who calls him up and asks "Is it ok for me to do psychedelics or will it hurt my heart?" anything other than "Don't do drugs, they're illegal, please never call me again."?

You've gotten answers here. They weren't to your satisfaction. This isn't what I would call the smartest place to look for answers regarding your health anyways. After all, how do you know any of us has even the slightest medical expertise? How do you know our opinions on the physiological effects of psychedelics on the heart are any more qualified than the opinion of the homeless dude that lives on the corner bus stop?

You accept a risk when you do drugs, all the way from possession to use. If you were in a place where mushrooms were a legal treatment for your depression, you'd have your prescribing  physician to ask this. Since you came to the fucking Shroomery for advice on your heart, that's obviously not the case. Anecdotal evidence from the community of people who use psychedelics, combined with what most people here would consider the few unbiased studies on this subject, don't indicate any such risk.

You're not going to find a professional willing to tell you anything other than to not do drugs. Even if they feel there's no risk, they're not going to open themselves up to the shit show that follows telling some random person it's ok to do illegal drugs. This is as far as it goes for you in this day and age. Either take the risk, or stop using them and find a different way to manage your depression :shrug:


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: amidogen]
    #23951765 - 12/23/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Right on amidogen. Unless you want to fund a study then you've gotten the best answer you're going to get, eat the psychedelics or don't. Stop posting the same question again and again. No matter how many ways you rephrase it or who you ask the facts do not change, or lack there of as the case may be, and we've already presented them to you as they exist.


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: krypto2000]
    #23951792 - 12/23/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Not that this is medical advice.  But sex can be bad for heart problems too.  Shoveling snow kills lot's of people.

It's not going to cure heart problems and may make them worse.  Hell coffee is bad for heart problems.

Like people said.  Unless you donate to funding, don't expect any great conversations.  No medical doctor is going to say it's ok for heart problems and any illegal or even many legal drugs.


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23952553 - 12/23/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

David Nichols is the absolute man. Probably the most important figure in the world today when it comes to pharmacology/psychedelics/psychoactive drugs. I know you already mentioned him but there really isn't a better-qualified chemist.


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: MorphMan]
    #23952616 - 12/23/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think the consensus is you contact David Nichols OP. :learyharvard:


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23952693 - 12/23/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It's time to join your nearest universities chemistry club. ^-^


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: sudly]
    #23952941 - 12/23/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

A lot of old people can safely consume psychedelics.

That's just my opinion based on how many elderly people I've seen trip, even ones with blood pressure problems and prior heart attacks / cardiac related surgery had zero problems on mushrooms specifically.

Hell, even Graham Hancock a 66 year old man took ibogaine, several doses of ayahyasca, DMT, and mushrooms with no problems.

Get healthy physically and then your confidence will rise. Get checked out by a medical doctor.


Edited by Get Shwifty (12/23/16 10:23 PM)


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: Get Shwifty]
    #23952965 - 12/23/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, but the thing is they don't cause it in one dose, it's a cumulative effect. The drug this first become known for you took, iirc, 20mg 3x a day for a few weeks. Here's the wikipedia article on it. So it's unlikely to do much of anything in 10 spaced out trips or so, but what about 200? 500? It's hard to say. Here's another thread here already on it with some good info, notably that research shows with infrequent use it heals at least partially over time.


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Re: pyschedelic chemists [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23953056 - 12/23/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

There are a lot of real psychedelic chemists on this board, and I assure you that if they had wanted to respond to your posts they would have done it already.


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