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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: sudly] * 2
    #23959080 - 12/26/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

As someone who has totally lost their mind and come back to tell the story, I can vouch that, really, somehow, mind is 100% brain, but consciousness is consciousness, everything is consciousness. This consciousness, or your "unit" of it, can inhabit other vehicles including your spirit/soul. Also consciousness can intervene on matter, and regenerate the brain, so that it can have a mind. Seems this all matters, that it has purpose.

It's only the 20th century philosophers that said all this didn't mean anything. They were losers with brain disease (Nietzsche) and horrible living conditions. "On a bad trip" as McKenna said of them.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23959087 - 12/26/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Mind doesn't always find rest to heal.

Yet we really never totally heal.  We all have baggage.  Lifetimes of energy and nobody knows what's next.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: sudly]
    #23974773 - 01/02/17 01:17 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

The ancient meaning of disease is dis-ease. To not be at ease.

Which is now commonly viewed as a biological malfunction.

To not be at ease (dis-ease) is now "treated" with chemicals.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23974795 - 01/02/17 01:29 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Those chemicals should be ones that reduce activity of the sympathetic nervous system.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: sudly]
    #23974816 - 01/02/17 01:41 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

Thousands of chemicals can change human consciousnesses.

For violent rage, there are many drugs that will appease that...tranquilizers?

Booze is a very effective drug to reduce anxiety. Millions use it regularly.

Remember, people who say drugs saved their life are under the influence of drugs.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23974824 - 01/02/17 01:45 AM (7 years, 28 days ago)

But only sympathomimetics and sympatholytics effect the sympathetic nervous system that is responsible for governing the fight or flight response and regulating blood pressure through the release of adrenaline in the heart.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: sudly]
    #23980247 - 01/03/17 11:05 PM (7 years, 26 days ago)

To chime in on the original topic, my father-in-law has been in the midst of a bad manic episode, he quit taking his psych meds and started taking alot of his suboxone and went on a super high note for a while before the crash happened, he is currently living at a rehabilitation clinic (for bipolar not opiates, had been on suboxone for like 15 years) trying to get him back on track. Its a rough ride.

Anyway, he has talked to me and my girl about mushrooms and acid a few times and has never mentioned it causing an episode, he never mentioned dose..
He smokes quite a bit and gets nice stuff when hes at home.

My girl has smoked DMT a handful of times and has taken mushrooms 5 or 6 times and has been fine. Time will tell. But I believe she is fine in the head though.

Also if it counts, tripping helps relieve depression for me. I always put myself through my own little therapy session, figure out whats wrong, what I can change about my self or situation to fix it ect.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: Guess]
    #23980571 - 01/04/17 03:58 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

my dad was an extreme Alpha male - irrascible, tough, stern, so stern that he used to physically discipline my cousins when their parents were timid too hit them - well my dad passed away (coronary attack) at 53 - I thought he was insane.

my brother loved my dad incredibly, but was manic depressive and took his own life at 50 using my car in a garage (carbon monoxide).

My other brothers manage, and thrive.

So I think you could say my family has been afflicted by mental illness.

I have enjoyed psychedelics for 48 years so far, they are not a problem for my constitution.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23980593 - 01/04/17 05:14 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Damn dude, my grandpa was like that and an uncle did the same thing with the garage.

I've had some intense psychedelic moments but they've always seemed to even me out and during them I was in a state where the intensity of my experiences didn't bother me much.

In the 3 years since I tried them I think they've helped me greatly with self improvement.


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Re: Anyone with a personal/ family history of mental illness still benefit from psychedelics? [Re: sudly]
    #23985359 - 01/05/17 10:18 PM (7 years, 24 days ago)

My mother has dealt with Manic Depression over the past 10 years; she has had a few psychotic episodes where she would do outrageous things that led us to resort to calling 911. I smoke weed nearly everyday, and am mostly fine. If I stop smoking for a week, I regain my clarity and focus etc. However in the past weed has made me feel depersonalization and derealization.


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