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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23950195 - 12/22/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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But they're perfectly happy to have the voters in North Dakota worth more than 2 votes compared to the voters in California.




We vote for President by state, not nationally.

If you're in California, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every Californian.

If you're in New York, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every New Yorker.

If you're in North Dakota, your vote counts 1 person, just like every North Dakotan..


This isn't rocket science and those who can't grasp this simple concept should be embarrassed mortified.

We vote by state in the hope that the one your state votes for will be the next President. Just like you vote for the Representatives and Senators for your state.




In 1840 "we" didn't let blacks vote at all. It was wrong. And this is wrong. In England, at one time, no one was allowed to vote and the person who owned the most land (the king) had complete power.

Sometimes humans evolve and get more just. Often it comes along with the crooks kicking and screaming.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: endogenous]
    #23950259 - 12/22/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They like the system because it's how they get to win elections despite losing by 2.1% you can argue that it's unjust until you're blue in the face but it won't matter because conservatives fundamentally lack a sense of justice. That is part of their core character that makes them conservatives. They don't give a shit about anyone outside of their group. If they did they would be liberals.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23950412 - 12/22/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:thatsayes:


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods] * 2
    #23950429 - 12/22/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They like the system because it's how they get to win elections despite losing by 2.1% you can argue that it's unjust until you're blue in the face but it won't matter because conservatives fundamentally lack a sense of justice. That is part of their core character that makes them conservatives. They don't give a shit about anyone outside of their group. If they did they would be liberals.



Lol god damn this is bullshit.  Why do you guys give a shit about popular vote?  The system is based on electoral college, everyone knows this.  You complaining about this is like "I lost my game of chess because they took my queen BUT I TOOK MORE OF THEIR PIECES!"

So what? 

If you want to win the presidency, campaign in states where you need it to give you 270.  She failed, and now people think it's a conspiracy, they're retarded.

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23950472 - 12/22/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That was a trump tweet :rolleyes:





you still stuck your dick in a tree though

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: PreparationH]
    #23950599 - 12/23/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They like the system because it's how they get to win elections despite losing by 2.1% you can argue that it's unjust until you're blue in the face but it won't matter because conservatives fundamentally lack a sense of justice. That is part of their core character that makes them conservatives. They don't give a shit about anyone outside of their group. If they did they would be liberals.



Lol god damn this is bullshit.  Why do you guys give a shit about popular vote?  The system is based on electoral college, everyone knows this.  You complaining about this is like "I lost my game of chess because they took my queen BUT I TOOK MORE OF THEIR PIECES!"

So what? 

If you want to win the presidency, campaign in states where you need it to give you 270.  She failed, and now people think it's a conspiracy, they're retarded.




Conspiracy? Where do you get that from?

The system sucks. It gives small states more power than large states. Again. You like it because it allows conservatives to win despite being outnumbered by liberals. It's affirmative action for republicans.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23950651 - 12/23/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
That was a trump tweet :rolleyes:





you still stuck your dick in a tree though




that was a trunk deek.

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23950746 - 12/23/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They like the system because it's how they get to win elections despite losing by 2.1% you can argue that it's unjust until you're blue in the face but it won't matter because conservatives fundamentally lack a sense of justice. That is part of their core character that makes them conservatives. They don't give a shit about anyone outside of their group. If they did they would be liberals.



On the other hand - Anton Scalia didn't vote against an Ayahuasca church (Uniao de Vegetal). Sometimes conservative people can end up being more just than liberals - amazingly enough.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Apostle]
    #23950757 - 12/23/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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People die in war?

dam



Don't act like the annexation of Crimea was a war,it was a slaughter of Ukrainian citizens doing whatever they could to defend against an extremely oppressive Russian boot on their neck.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: endogenous]
    #23950758 - 12/23/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Unless it's already been said for an umpteenth time, we live in a federal republic for a reason, as this problem dated back to the earliest days of the country when the Founding Fathers were afraid of Pennsylvania and Massachusetts dominating the rest of the United States; Smaller states like Maine and Rhode Island were reluctant at joining the union until they were certain that they would have guarantees against the hegemony of larger states.

It's a system that has worked well for centuries. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: EarthTalker]
    #23950789 - 12/23/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I always felt like Massachusetts never got it's fair share.  We never should have let Maine succeed from the state commonwealth.

Edited by moonrockmushy (12/23/16 03:21 AM)

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: endogenous]
    #23950865 - 12/23/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We vote for President by state, not nationally.

If you're in California, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every Californian.

If you're in New York, your vote counts as 1 person, just like every New Yorker.

If you're in North Dakota, your vote counts 1 person, just like every North Dakotan..


This isn't rocket science and those who can't grasp this simple concept should be embarrassed mortified.

We vote by state in the hope that the one your state votes for will be the next President. Just like you vote for the Representatives and Senators for your state.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23950867 - 12/23/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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They like the system because it's how they get to win elections despite losing by 2.1% you can argue that it's unjust until you're blue in the face but it won't matter because conservatives fundamentally lack a sense of justice. That is part of their core character that makes them conservatives. They don't give a shit about anyone outside of their group. If they did they would be liberals.




The stupidity in that post is monumental.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods]
    #23950990 - 12/23/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The system sucks. It gives small states more power than large states. Again. You like it because it allows conservatives to win despite being outnumbered by liberals. It's affirmative action for republicans.




false.

it stops a handful of counties from deciding who the president will be based on what
handouts those counties were promised each election cycle

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23951003 - 12/23/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Holy shit guys, the California recount is finish. Trump won California!!! Can you believe this shit???


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: endogenous]
    #23951101 - 12/23/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The republicans keep yelling about democrats voting twice (which isn't happening). But they're perfectly happy to have the voters in North Dakota worth more than 2 votes compared to the voters in California.

Yeah -- it's fine with them if the people voting twice are republicans.




If you have evidence please post it otherwise shut yer opt out trap.


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: lowbrow]
    #23951276 - 12/23/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/12/23/trump-to-putin-lets-have-a-nuclear-arms-race.html?client=safari

:facepalm:

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U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, asked to clarify his comments about expanding U.S. nuclear weapons capability, said, "Let it be an arms race," and that the United States would win it, MSNBC reported on Friday.




What the fuck?


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: lowbrow]
    #23951290 - 12/23/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The republicans keep yelling about democrats voting twice (which isn't happening). But they're perfectly happy to have the voters in North Dakota worth more than 2 votes compared to the voters in California.

Yeah -- it's fine with them if the people voting twice are republicans.




If you have evidence please post it otherwise shut yer opt out trap.



do you not understand that a North Dakota or Wyoming or Alaska or Montana vote is worth more than twice that of a California vote according to the electoral college?

It's actually more. The 40 million people in California are worth 55 electoral votes. The 40 million people living in the lowest population states are worth 120 electoral votes

Hillary Clinton would have won the electoral college as well if states were given mathematically proportional electoral votes


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Edited by koods (12/23/16 10:27 AM)

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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: koods] * 3
    #23951347 - 12/23/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Poor shroomy mod, in here talking to himself trying to make others believe his nonsense.  Its like the bum on the street spewing conspiracy, sad :sad:


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Re: Hillary Clinton Won The Popular Vote By Over 2.5 Million Votes [Re: Herbologist]
    #23951352 - 12/23/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Everything I just posted is true, not a conspiracy theory. You are welcome to do the math, if you are capable. The states where trump won have over 40 more electoral votes than their population would dictate if they were awarded proportionally based on population instead of giving small states a minimum of 3, 4 or 5 when then only deserve 1,2 or 3.

Clinton: 277
Trump: 261


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/23/16 11:12 AM)

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