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bennylava
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More than just fuzzy feet...
#23949570 - 12/22/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its creeping halfway up the stems! As you can see from the pics, the fuzzy feet phenomenon has gone way too far, in my case. I've been reading through these forums, doing a little searching. Nobody actually seems to know what causes this. In every thread, they're always arguing whether its a GE problem, or whether it has something to do with the humidity being too high.
I'm just using a typical shotgun fruiting chamber. It has 60 quarter inch holes drilled in it. I am fanning 3 times per day, for 15 seconds. There is 5 inches of perlite in the tub. The substrate is horse manure from outgrow, spawned from grain jars.
Is this really a problem? Is there the potential that the fuzz could overtake the mushroom? And what should I do to make it stop?

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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23949590 - 12/22/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks fine, they just need a little more fae. That should make those caps open up too.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: concretelush]
#23949622 - 12/22/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually the more i look, it seems like there could be some nasty's in the middle there as well, cant tell to well with the lighting. But it doesn't really look like its affecting your fruits. Keep an eye on them, if they start drooping and looking crappy, toss them. That could also be the reason for the fuzzy feet, if you got proper fae.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: concretelush]
#23949797 - 12/22/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yup, you need more FAE. It's caused by too much humidity and a lack of FAE, they're two sides of the same coin in this case. The more FAE you have the less humid it will be. You want ~100% humidity when pinning and near the surface, but for fruit formation you want to drop it down a bit. It might just be the strain, but I'm thinking your caps would be bigger with more FAE as well.
High CO2/lack of FAE causes the mushrooms to elongate and the caps to not grow out and if it's really bad the mushrooms will grow in all kinds of random directions instead of upwards, you'll also have a reduced yield over all. Do you have airflow in the room? A fan running to circulate the air? If not that is your first step. If that's still not enough, and you can't provide more, then consider drilling more holes. Don't point the fan directly at the tub.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23949809 - 12/22/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bottom middle looks splotchy.....wouldnt stop me though
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bennylava
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Thanks guys. Yes I have a fan in the room, I'll make sure its always on. I was wondering what was going on with the caps lol. They're only about the size of a quarter, and seem to have already dropped spores. I was expecting them to be much bigger, so I just didn't harvest them yet.
Would you guys go ahead and harvest those?
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23951055 - 12/23/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bennylava said: In every thread, they're always arguing whether its a GE problem, or whether it has something to do with the humidity being too high.
Ironically they're both right, and these people were arguing the same thing. Too high humidity is because there isn't enough air exchanges of dry air. So it means not enough FAE.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: Mad Season] 1
#23951100 - 12/23/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Op....did you space the holes 2in apart all sides top and bottom?
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bennylava
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spirit_shadow said: Op....did you space the holes 2in apart all sides top and bottom? 
Hmm... there are no holes in the very bottom. I'd say there are roughly 60 holes in it. All 1/4" in size. But I did not drill holes in the bottom of the tub. I was concerned about the perlite falling out a bit, as well as water draining out of the holes. Granted I don't have standing water sitting in the bottom, but it still didn't seem like a good idea.
From the pics, should I harvest those? The caps are very small, but it does look like I can see the gills.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23951463 - 12/23/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yup, harvest them, and you should have holes in the bottom, that alone may solve your issue.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23951536 - 12/23/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you are all wrong and that is mold not fuzzy feet...i would stop misting.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23951747 - 12/23/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is definitely fuzzy feet, looks exactly like it, plus the other signs of a lack of FAE/high humidity all point to it. That is a classic example of fuzzy feet.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23951751 - 12/23/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sadly it isn't...those fruits are infected.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23951763 - 12/23/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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okay
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23951764 - 12/23/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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look at the botching on the stipe, and also ask yourself how you get that bad of fae problems i a chamber riddled in holes...that is not fuzzy feet and a high rh that is mold you are seeing.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23951782 - 12/23/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pseudomonas bacteria or possibly vert
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23951786 - 12/23/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you have a confirmed reference picture to show this on something else so I can see what you're talking about?
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23951788 - 12/23/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23951857 - 12/23/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I believe those little blotches are some bacteria, but I can't find anything to show the fuzzy feet are, in the thread you linked or otherwise. I'm open to the possibility, but I just can't find evidence to support it.
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cronicr



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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23951860 - 12/23/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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in bad cases of low fae it wi form more of a bub at the base
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