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mollypolly
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Identify homegrown mushroom
#23949588 - 12/22/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Habitat: Where does it grow? Vermiculite and brown rice flour
Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Stem: Length 5 cm Diameter 2,5-1,5 cm, color whithe ish
Cap: Diameter: 5,5 cm, color caramel,
Spores looked beige color i think Psychedelic mushroom
Thank you for answer!
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: mollypolly]
#23949598 - 12/22/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybe cubensis.
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mollypolly
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: Anglerfish]
#23949606 - 12/22/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anglerfish said: Psilocybe cubensis. 
Thank you , is it harvested in right time?
Edited by mollypolly (12/22/16 05:18 PM)
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: mollypolly]
#23949717 - 12/22/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Perfecto
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Lol I think this is the first grow identification thread I've seen.
"Habitat: vermiculite" had me chuckling.
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mollypolly
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: Sirtalis]
#23951777 - 12/23/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sirtalis said: Lol I think this is the first grow identification thread I've seen.
"Habitat: vermiculite" had me chuckling.
Haha, I was told it is McKennaii but is that a real kind?
Anyways, what doasage should I follow becasue I read (https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Category:Magic_Mushrooms) that psilocybe cubensis normal dosage is 2,5 g and McKennaii normal doasage is 1,6g, and if it is true that McKennaii is so much stronger i want to be shure! 
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: mollypolly]
#23951791 - 12/23/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Strain names are a marketing gimmick, I would guess these are normal cubensis potency. 2 grams is a good dose for a beginner.
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I've noticed, especially with ID requests of people who have bought Psilocybe cubensis, that a lot of people seem to harvest when the mushrooms are quite immature -- i.e cap completely closed.
I don't know if there's some hippy/stoner myth that the mushrooms are more potent at this time, but as I understand, the only conclusion I see is that the mushrooms will definitely have less weight -- and therefore potentially less overall psychoactivity, if we consider a certain species' trip level to be such that its judged by its weight -- not taking the level of specimen maturity into account, as most sources don't.
I must, at this point, highlight the fact that the specimen in the pictures is not completely closed, and therefore it can be well-argued that I'm going off on a tangent here, but as the question was asked whether it was harvested at the right time, and doctorghosty answered "Perfecto", I thought I'd bring up the conversation.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: elprawn]
#23951944 - 12/23/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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From what I've read in the cultivation forum most growers harvest right after the veil breaks and before spores are released. Probably has to do with most buyers freaking out that there's purple on the caps of their mushrooms.
Also I think it's a yield factor. Probably can get larger second flushes if you don't let the mushrooms fully mature.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: Sirtalis]
#23951970 - 12/23/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sirtalis said: Probably can get larger second flushes if you don't let the mushrooms fully mature.
I wonder, what's the science behind this? Have there been any studies, or is it another stoner fallacy?
I don't mean to sound rude or judgemental, I'm just interested in the truth.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: Sirtalis]
#23951977 - 12/23/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like them right after the veil tears bc they're less messy but still fairly decent sized but I actually answered perfecto bc I don't think it really matters much at all & this one was already harvested and looks good to go to me! I don't buy into the 'decreased potency' myth and even if it was factual what you give up in potency would be made up for in additional weight.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: Sirtalis]
#23952061 - 12/23/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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elprawn said: I've noticed, especially with ID requests of people who have bought Psilocybe cubensis, that a lot of people seem to harvest when the mushrooms are quite immature -- i.e cap completely closed.
I don't know if there's some hippy/stoner myth that the mushrooms are more potent at this time, but as I understand, the only conclusion I see is that the mushrooms will definitely have less weight -- and therefore potentially less overall psycho-activity, if we consider a certain species' trip level to be such that its judged by its weight -- not taking the level of specimen maturity into account, as most sources don't.
I must, at this point, highlight the fact that the specimen in the pictures is not completely closed, and therefore it can be well-argued that I'm going off on a tangent here, but as the question was asked whether it was harvested at the right time, and doctorghosty answered "Perfecto", I thought I'd bring up the conversation.
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Sirtalis said: From what I've read in the cultivation forum most growers harvest right after the veil breaks and before spores are released. Probably has to do with most buyers freaking out that there's purple on the caps of their mushrooms.
Also I think it's a yield factor. Probably can get larger second flushes if you don't let the mushrooms fully mature.
Supposedly there have been analyses showing that immature mushrooms do posses a higher psycho-active compound:dry weight ratio, but if this is the not to the extent that it is beneficial to harvest significantly smaller mushrooms. The reason for harvesting mushrooms before they begin to drop spores (at least before they start releasing massive amounts) in the lab, is because a thick layer of spores can adversely effect future pinning, which will reduce the yields of subsequent flushes, or worse. There is also a certain point in a mushrooms development when growth of new cells (& of course psychoactive compounds) slows way down and most of the remaining growth will be from water absorbing into the cells that already existed. At this point the dry weight will not increase very much no matter how much longer it grows, correspondingly, once mushrooms reach this point in development, the ratio of the compounds to the fresh weight begins to decrease because the ratio of water to everything else increases.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: ambc]
#23952081 - 12/23/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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ambc said:
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elprawn said: I've noticed, especially with ID requests of people who have bought Psilocybe cubensis, that a lot of people seem to harvest when the mushrooms are quite immature -- i.e cap completely closed.
I don't know if there's some hippy/stoner myth that the mushrooms are more potent at this time, but as I understand, the only conclusion I see is that the mushrooms will definitely have less weight -- and therefore potentially less overall psycho-activity, if we consider a certain species' trip level to be such that its judged by its weight -- not taking the level of specimen maturity into account, as most sources don't.
I must, at this point, highlight the fact that the specimen in the pictures is not completely closed, and therefore it can be well-argued that I'm going off on a tangent here, but as the question was asked whether it was harvested at the right time, and doctorghosty answered "Perfecto", I thought I'd bring up the conversation.
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Sirtalis said: From what I've read in the cultivation forum most growers harvest right after the veil breaks and before spores are released. Probably has to do with most buyers freaking out that there's purple on the caps of their mushrooms.
Also I think it's a yield factor. Probably can get larger second flushes if you don't let the mushrooms fully mature.
Supposedly there have been analyses showing that immature mushrooms do posses a higher psycho-active compound:dry weight ratio, but if this is the not to the extent that it is beneficial to harvest significantly smaller mushrooms. The reason for harvesting mushrooms before they begin to drop spores (at least before they start releasing massive amounts) in the lab, is because a thick layer of spores can adversely effect future pinning, which will reduce the yields of subsequent flushes, or worse. There is also a certain point in a mushrooms development when growth of new cells (& of course psychoactive compounds) slows way down and most of the remaining growth will be from water absorbing into the cells that already existed. At this point the dry weight will not increase very much no matter how much longer it grows, correspondingly, once mushrooms reach this point in development, the ratio of the compounds to the fresh weight begins to decrease because the ratio of water to everything else increases.
Thank you for the information. I hope someone else in cyberspace also hits this page and finds it useful.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: elprawn]
#23952088 - 12/23/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Always glad to be of service!
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: ambc]
#23952093 - 12/23/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good info, I find this very useful as I'm on my first grow and just starting to see knots   Thanks guys.
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: TheDuder]
#23953304 - 12/24/16 02:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey wouldja look at that...I don't make up stoner myths about when to harvest cubensis
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Re: Identify homegrown mushroom [Re: Sirtalis] 1
#23953528 - 12/24/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sirtalis said: Hey wouldja look at that...I don't make up stoner myths about when to harvest cubensis
Wasn't for a minute suggesting you did and I'm sorry that it came across that way. It's just sometimes there seems to be "known truths" that seem to have no basis. Apparently this isn't one of those, and, I didn't mean to suggest it was, I was just wondering.
Sorry if I sounded self-righteous.
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