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krypto2000
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23951879 - 12/23/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you have an example of that? I googled both of those bacterias and could not find any fuzzy feet. Not trying to be a pita, I'd just like to see and learn.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23952429 - 12/23/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmm... what should I do about this? Would it harm someone if they ate it?
The guys over at mycotopia seem to think its just from lack of FAE. They said harvest those fruits, and the next flush shouldn't have it once I get more FAE.
Would dunking it in tap water kill the mold?
Edited by bennylava (12/23/16 06:15 PM)
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23952514 - 12/23/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should be fine to eat them still. I've never heard of anyone getting sick from eating these before and I have not either, even if it is a bacteria infectious to humans it will die after you dry them out. You'd still have to worry about any toxins they produced, but I don't think they do in this case, and again no one has ever said they've gotten sick from eating them. I would not eat those ones in cronicr's link, but if you have a splotch here and there I've never been concerned, it's a common contaminant and has been eaten a lot as a result. I am not a dr though so don't take my word on it, you do so at your own risk, but that is my experience fwiw.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23952546 - 12/23/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I was going to make them into a tea, so could that potentially be of help in this situation?
I want to do tea, as the general consensus seems to be that if you make them into a tea, you can typically avoid the nausea. Feeling sick and tripping does not seem like a good time at all. This will be my first trip so I'm wanting it to be a good one.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23952569 - 12/23/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is no harm in either, make tea n have fun.Quote:
krypto2000 said: Do you have an example of that? I googled both of those bacterias and could not find any fuzzy feet. Not trying to be a pita, I'd just like to see and learn.
Ill look around.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23952614 - 12/23/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You should be fine to eat them still. I've never heard of anyone getting sick from eating these before, even if it's a bacteria contagious to humans it will Quote:
bennylava said: Well I was going to make them into a tea, so could that potentially be of help in this situation?
I want to do tea, as the general consensus seems to be that if you make them into a tea, you can typically avoid the nausea. Feeling sick and tripping does not seem like a good time at all. This will be my first trip so I'm wanting it to be a good one.
Well boiling would kill them, but so should dehydration. Even if the toxic chemicals produced are insoluble in water though, assuming there are any in the first place, they would still be extracted most likely through mechanical means (eg, the agitation of the water). I can't help you anymore on the actual safety aspects though, I don't know enough and can only share my experience and limited knowledge.
As for tea that is the best way to go ime short of a total extraction which is a lot more involved. I always recommend putting some lemon juice in there to protect any psilocin from oxidizing and you can mask the taste pretty well with some normal black tea or w/e kind you prefer, just make it extra strong to account for the dilution once combined with the mushroom tea.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23952623 - 12/23/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vert would have them splitting and wilting..n that bacteria will taste gross lol.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23952849 - 12/23/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I said it was splotchy but also op drill holes in the bottom 2 in apart in grid pattern 
Edit: also dehydrate till cracker dry and they will be fine to consume.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23953695 - 12/24/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said: ...just make it extra strong to account for the dilution once combined with the mushroom tea.
Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by this? What exactly should be extra strong?
Side note: This whole thing has been over a year in the making for me. There are sooooo many different ways to actually grow, that its difficult and somewhat frustrating to find the best method. From reading a lot of different stuff, it seems that even the shotgun fruiting chamber is now becoming outdated.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23953718 - 12/24/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The regular tea. Say you make a cup of mushroom tea and a cup of black tea, once you combine them you'll have 2 cups of tea so you should make that cup of black tea twice as strong to account for this dilution. Otherwise it would taste like half strength regular black tea with a hint of mushroom flavor.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23954704 - 12/24/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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There seems to be green mold growing on my substrate now. What do I do about this? Should I just continue harvesting mushrooms for as long as I can?
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23954721 - 12/24/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would move ot from any work or grow area and finish your harvest n toss
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: cronicr]
#23956029 - 12/25/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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As long as the mold is not growing on your mushrooms they're safe to eat but is going consume your sub fast.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: krypto2000]
#23956064 - 12/25/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kinda doubt his green mold is inedible. Aflatoxins and other mycotoxins are harmful via respiration, which if you have a weakened immune system, just having the mold in your presence is a danger. Ingesting is safe.
Trich is edible. If it wasn't we'd all be dying when we eat a root vegetable because trich forms a symbiotic relationship with root vegetables.
Penicillium is used in the production of blue cheese, penicillin, etc.
Aspergillus Niger is used in corn syrup. Although it's black, it's still an aspergillus with mycotoxins
Realistically the dude needs to get it out of his area asap if he doesn't want to spread spores all over his house. To me that's more important than sad pseudomonas bacteria fruits
Edited by Mad Season (12/25/16 09:48 AM)
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: Mad Season]
#23956108 - 12/25/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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1. Move everything out of grow area.
2. Pick all fruits.
3. Dry and consume.
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Re: More than just fuzzy feet... [Re: bennylava]
#23956389 - 12/25/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Op....did you space the holes 2in apart all sides top and bottom? 
Hmm... there are no holes in the very bottom. I'd say there are roughly 60 holes in it. All 1/4" in size. But I did not drill holes in the bottom of the tub. I was concerned about the perlite falling out a bit, as well as water draining out of the holes. Granted I don't have standing water sitting in the bottom, but it still didn't seem like a good idea.
From the pics, should I harvest those? The caps are very small, but it does look like I can see the gills.
you need to address this issue, get your bottom holes drilled
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