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pur3bind
Not all who wander are frost-y



Registered: 07/16/16
Posts: 748
Loc: Plan, Plant, Planet
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Re: Why is human kind the most evolved species on earth today? Is it just so obvious it's us? Fuck alien [Re: Ezuma]
#23950529 - 12/22/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah there's a lot of studies on mycelium and the soil/trees/plants connection. It is sparce and who knows what it's abilities are.
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PatrickKn said: I'd say birds and mammals are sentient. No reason to think otherwise (in my mind at least).
They have a smaller capacity for reason than humans. But based off behavior alone, I'd say sentience itself is as plausible as a fellow human having sentience despite not knowing from a first hand perspective that they do otherwise. I say birds and mammals for sure because they demonstrate social behavior and have more complex mating habits than other animals, but I don't see why amphibians, frogs and reptiles wouldn't either. I just say birds and mammals for sure.
At least, I'm as sure that they do as I am that fellow humans do.
Sentience is not necessarily reason though. When it comes to complex reasoning, I'd say humans have a clear advantage. The ability to form words inside your head may assist with that to a large extent. Cetaceans show advanced communicative skills as well though, and might have more sophisticated languages than humans do naturally (not counting the written word and our use of images and phones, talking purely of phonetics).
I expect more things are sentient than we might think, probably including most birds and all mammals, and as you say maybe amphibians and reptiles and fish
the stuff I wonder about are plants and fungi, since the notion they might be conscious is gaining ground, one wonders just how conscious they might be
I think our ability to be connected or symbiotic with anything. Even a spiritual connection to a fucking plastic bag, really makes us the most evolved (in my humble opinion).
Oh and whoever asked the leaf question. I really have ransom pics on shroomery and on de phone atm.

Here's a pic of a fucked up plant.
Shoot me.
-------------------- "There are times— and this would be a great study for somebody to do—there have been periods in English when there were emotions that don't exist anymore, because the words have been lost. There are colors that don't exist anymore because the words have been lost." — Terence McKenna (The Archaic Revival: 1991)
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PatrickKn


Registered: 07/10/11
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Re: Why is human kind the most evolved species on earth today? Is it just so obvious it's us? Fuck alien [Re: pur3bind] 2
#23950541 - 12/22/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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'Most evolved' is a non-existent concept though. Evolution isn't a race to the top, or something to peak and then decline at. It's a process to explain changes in genetic diversity overtime. It's ongoing. A snail that never travels more than a few meters in it's lifetime still has just as many billions of years of evolution behind it as we do. Anything that exists right now is as evolved as we are, and exists and survives because it is adapted to an environment that it can live in.
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Repertoire89
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Registered: 11/15/12
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Re: Why is human kind the most evolved species on earth today? Is it just so obvious it's us? Fuck alien [Re: Tmethyl]
#23950584 - 12/23/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ezuma said: we technically aren't the most evolved, just the most intelligent. There are many species which have actually undergone much more specialization and stages of evolution, like rice interestingly enough.
Like mantis shrimp, can see like 13 base colors where humans only see around 5.
On another note, I think that mother nature understands that it's planet(Earth) is not going to last forever, so it dubbed a species to carry her to new places. A space shuttle launch is like a spore, a hard sealed unit with life inside, venturing out to find a new place to colonize. Wherever a human would go they would have to bring all sorts of plants and organisms with them.
That's just what the mushrooms tell me when I eat them, she says that everything is on course, and that the struggles of today are preparing her for tomorrow. All the violence and atrocious acts we've done, were necessary and that her plan was calculated.
Or in the words of McKenna: "This is what it's like when a species prepares to depart for the stars. You don't depart for the stars under calm and orderly conditions; it's a fire in a madhouse, and that's what we have, the fire in the madhouse at the end of time. This is what it's like when a species prepares to move on to the next dimension. The entire destiny of all life on the planet is tied up in this; we are not acting for ourselves, or from ourselves; we happen to be the point species on a transformation that will affect every living organism on this planet at its conclusion."
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