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TXBD
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: gizmodo]
#25763609 - 01/23/19 03:58 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I think there is good value in venting for the full 10 minutes - like it says in the Presto manual. And I'm pretty sure I've read thru conversations about it in some threads here.
There can be weirdness with getting up to high enough temperature even if at 15-18 pressure if there are air-pockets under the jars or if -the water level isn't right. I'm not sure of the exact nuances on this really but I've had to tighten up my grain game a few times already and I'm still improving.
That's also why I PC my grains for 2 hours and I don't start that timer until I'm at pressure. More time but better results.
I confess I'm more worried about my SAB/sterile skills than my PC/grain game.
I also confess I forgot to ask if you are even using a Presto PC doh!
Edit: you got multiple replies about the 10 minute thing while I typed mine out.. Carry On!
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: TXBD] 1
#25763615 - 01/23/19 04:00 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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The gist is we want to measure steam pressure and not air-steam pressure
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: TXBD]
#25763637 - 01/23/19 04:10 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Psilosopherr said:
Was worried that guy was about to do something a little different to that bunny, I confess. I guess that heart makes things a little ambiguous, for all I know that is whats happening
forgive me shroomer for I have sinned
Well at least it looks like he likes it. 
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TXBD said: I also confess I forgot to ask if you are even using a Presto PC doh!
I'm using a 941. I had no idea venting was such an important factor to the whole deal. Glad to finally be making some observations that are getting me closer to making some quality grain though.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: gizmodo]
#25763652 - 01/23/19 04:15 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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While we are talking about venting, I confess ive just started using my PC and in the instructional booklet it says to place the pressure regulator on and turn to high heat until the regulator starts to rock then reduce heat until it maintains a gentle rocking motion then start your timer, never once mentions venting
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: DnDRnD]
#25763656 - 01/23/19 04:16 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Is it a presto?
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Edited by gizmodo (01/23/19 04:16 PM)
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DnDRnD
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: gizmodo]
#25763670 - 01/23/19 04:19 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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It's a presto 6 quart pressure cooker doesn't have a gauge just a pressure regulator that begins to rock at 15 psi and maintains 15 psi of pressure
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gizmodo
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: DnDRnD]
#25763688 - 01/23/19 04:26 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I'm unsure if the size would make a difference but I'd still advocate the venting procedure regardless of the manuals suggestion. 
Could someone explain explicitly what venting actually does or verify my understanding of it? So far as I understand its getting rid of the residual air pockets in the PC and replacing it with steam?
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Edited by gizmodo (01/23/19 04:27 PM)
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wcg18
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: DnDRnD]
#25763710 - 01/23/19 04:32 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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DnDRnD said: It's a presto 6 quart pressure cooker doesn't have a gauge just a pressure regulator that begins to rock at 15 psi and maintains 15 psi of pressure
Pressure cookers and pressure canners/sterilizers are not always both.
I have a 23qt presto, and the instructions for canning stuff definitely mentions venting, however the "cooking" instructions do not. Most likely it doesn't mention it on yours because it's meant for cooking and not sterilization, but you can still achieve temp as long as you vent properly and can reach 15psi.
Edited by wcg18 (01/23/19 05:11 PM)
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wcg18
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: wcg18] 1
#25763714 - 01/23/19 04:35 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: wcg18] 1
#25763717 - 01/23/19 04:36 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Well hopefully my jars dont contaminate! I didnt vent
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: DnDRnD]
#25763800 - 01/23/19 05:30 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Better start over again on the side at least
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: wcg18]
#25763820 - 01/23/19 05:38 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: gizmodo] 1
#25763980 - 01/23/19 06:49 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I confess,I'm not looking forward to working the SAB tonight.
Thing is it's effing cold,and my garage(my workspace) is about 45-50f with the heat on.But I turn them off and go bare armed to work. Got plates to pour and transfers to make though.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: mushroomnate]
#25763996 - 01/23/19 06:55 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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yeah thats been my problem lately too. I only have one breaker so I have to turn off my heater to pressure cook and obviously also to do clean work. Gets freakin cold and takes forever to catch up.
Its also delaying my pan cyan projects
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: Psilosopherr] 1
#25764053 - 01/23/19 07:25 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I never vented with my 6 qt... I think the shear volume of air in the 23qt deems it necessary to vent for proper sterilization
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gizmodo
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: Caps McGee]
#25764124 - 01/23/19 08:09 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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In the past I remember telling someone my cats left my greenhouse alone....

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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: gizmodo]
#25764189 - 01/23/19 08:41 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I confess, spanwed a couple slow, slightly bacterial qts of red boy to coir that was prepped last weekend (coming up on 2 weeks)... just to see what's up
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: Caps McGee]
#25764231 - 01/23/19 09:04 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I confess I got a pic of my spore(sperm) donor tonight, never seen him before but holy shit I definitely could be his spawn lol! The similarities are scary...seriously could be his fuckin clone thats how much I look like the dude
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: Leftfield420]
#25764285 - 01/23/19 09:39 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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I confess I may have been overly optimistic about 6 quarts (6 different sub strains) of Rusty Whyte that I let consolidate for about 6-8 weeks prior to spawning into small containers - even with a high spawn ratio. After a week looks like there has been almost no expansion. Iām bummed - and ashamed.

PS: venting for 10 minutes - very good idea!
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: Leftfield420]
#25764325 - 01/23/19 10:06 PM (5 years, 7 days ago) |
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Leftfield420 said: I confess I got a pic of my spore(sperm) donor tonight, never seen him before but holy shit I definitely could be his spawn lol! The similarities are scary...seriously could be his fuckin clone thats how much I look like the dude
I was 32 before I saw mine... not much similar in looks, but character was eerily close: kind of pissed me off to start with lol
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