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lovelaughlibs
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#24246597 - 04/15/17 02:13 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yeah my confession: my rye and CVG trays have been colonising for a week or so now and I'm honestly just waiting for them to trich, getting my hopes up in this hobby has only ever bitten me before so I'm super blasé at this point.
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Mattisfat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#24246608 - 04/15/17 02:16 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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lovelaughlibs said: Literally everything I do from spores->agar to LI->grain to spawning to bulk is so much slower than what people post on here.
Is it just because my house is cold and uninsulated?
cold can slow growth right down, how cold we talkin?
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Munchauzen


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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TrippyLivin]
#24246625 - 04/15/17 02:22 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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TrippyLivin said: What's wrong with having it sealed? Here I just took pictures. I literally sterilize the whole room plus the box. It greatly reduces contamination. Air flow is a large cause of contamination
The gloves are sealed onto the rubber entries. Everything's sealed with clear epoxy. The top has a foam 1 inch thick lining the edge with 4 clamps around the edge. It's hard to get hands in the gloves cause of the suction.


you can't flame sterilize anything. thats a big problem for lots of people. just seems like a big PITA when a SAB will reliably work better than that thing. seems like a lot of effort for no measurable return. you say it reduces contaminates, but any vet with SAB will tell you contaminates are not an issue.
so, it doesn't actually offer any real advantage to contaminates, and its more difficult to use. so, I would advise against using that contraption.
Edited by Munchauzen (04/15/17 02:28 PM)
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lovelaughlibs
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Mattisfat]
#24246635 - 04/15/17 02:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mattisfat said:
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lovelaughlibs said: Literally everything I do from spores->agar to LI->grain to spawning to bulk is so much slower than what people post on here.
Is it just because my house is cold and uninsulated?
cold can slow growth right down, how cold we talkin?
I often need to wear 2 layers of clothes in the house but whilst the insulation is this shitty it seems wasteful to turn on the heating. Hope its better over summer.
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Mattisfat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#24246637 - 04/15/17 02:27 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah that doesnt sound great, it wont hurt your growth though you will just have to be more patient
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lovelaughlibs
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Mattisfat]
#24246648 - 04/15/17 02:29 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm waiting for my current spores->agar atm, my current full plates have hidden bacteria so I'm restarting and the wait is annoying cuz I can't do shit except pf tek
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TrippyLivin
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: lovelaughlibs]
#24246656 - 04/15/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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So what the fuck did I build then? And is it a good or bad one?
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Munchauzen


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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TrippyLivin]
#24246685 - 04/15/17 02:40 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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isolation chamber or glovebox.
you know that suction on the gloves you mentioned? well, unless your tub is 100% perfectly sealed, then any tiny little gap that lets air in will do so with a pretty extreme velocity, which would in turn make for some pretty strong currents inside the box. its called the piston effect.
in a lab setting, yeah glovebox and isolation chambers like this are great but they are built in cleanrooms to microscopic specifications to ensure sterility. creating a truly sterile environment in a DIY setting would be an extremely difficult undertaking which would probably involve some welding.
its no big deal. just remove the gloves and wear them on your arms instead of on the box. it will still work perfectly fine.
fwiw, i also built one of these when i started out back in 2011
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TrippyLivin
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Munchauzen]
#24246736 - 04/15/17 03:02 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does that mean the 100 jars I have going plus 23 pounds of Rye in spawn bags are fucked? Not to mention the 15 syringes I made yesterday
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LizardWizard
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TrippyLivin]
#24246785 - 04/15/17 03:30 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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It means that trying those out will be interesting, and that if half or more of it contaminates, you'll know why and you also know that it's a good learning moment. Learning moments can hurt...
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Munchauzen


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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TrippyLivin]
#24246815 - 04/15/17 03:53 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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TrippyLivin said: Does that mean the 100 jars I have going plus 23 pounds of Rye in spawn bags are fucked? Not to mention the 15 syringes I made yesterday
no, not at all! there is a chance, but i dont think you are dead in the water just because you used this. not ideal, but probably still better than open air.
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van hatton
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Munchauzen]
#24247388 - 04/15/17 08:16 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I used to look for any reason to use a jar. Now I look for reasons not too.
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mushboy
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: van hatton]
#24247482 - 04/15/17 08:54 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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i fucked up mu left thumb really bad. i cant open a fucking mason jar.
im supposed to be g2g and testing my mexican clone.
i r sad
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Just_A_Noob
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24247515 - 04/15/17 09:10 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I look forward to agar work like a kid looking forward to brushing their teeth.
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van hatton
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Just_A_Noob] 2
#24247681 - 04/15/17 10:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushboy use a oil filter wrench
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Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24247733 - 04/15/17 11:03 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just_A_Noob said: I look forward to agar work like a kid looking forward to brushing their teeth.
Sometimes I'm stoked. Then sometimes it's like trying to get a 5 year old in the bath.
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Kingmut
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Im in my sab room now waiting on the air to settle haha
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Just_A_Noob
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Kingmut]
#24247747 - 04/15/17 11:09 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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For me its just back breaking, sweaty, slow, hand trembling work. I just need to prepare a better space. May the bacteria lay sleeping tonight for you Kingmut
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mushboy
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24247798 - 04/15/17 11:43 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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i jacked my thumb/hand bad. i cant even jerk it. i cant pour plates at all. cant cut transfers.
unless bod has a 1 handed agar tek video...
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van hatton
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24247803 - 04/15/17 11:46 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Have the wife take over 
You like break it or something? sounds unfortunate.
-------------------- If I ever give out misinformation please inform me so I can have the correct information. Tmethyl said: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy. Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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