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TaderHoagie
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: JHOVA]
#24844414 - 12/13/17 06:03 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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This confession involves me drunkenly shaking jars that weren't at 30% One jar was, and it recovered in a day. The others are taking their time. This is a good thing. I'm doing all of this to find the best genetics and clone, and one jar is miles above the rest. Fast, fluffy, and no metabs or nasty shit! I'm very happy. The other jars are clean, but I might just toss them anyway. No need for inferior genetics.
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Mateja



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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: JHOVA]
#24844416 - 12/13/17 06:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I confess every time I see the letters RR I see the face of not RR but the other guy from the mushroom videos, the one with glasses named Jim? And every time someone posts this pic I get confused for a second thinking, "wait ho is that guy"?-"Oh, yeah THAAAAT is rogerrabbit, damn.. I just read RRΒ΄s notes for an hour and had Jims face in my mind all the time.. my life is a lie... (cause when I saw the videos several years ago I thought the guy in the videos was RR and now itΒ΄s stuck with me)
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natedawgnow
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Mateja]
#24844423 - 12/13/17 06:05 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I'm not mistaken the other guy in the videos is roadkill
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Pastywhyte
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: natedawgnow]
#24844427 - 12/13/17 06:07 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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natedawgnow said: If I'm not mistaken the other guy in the videos is roadkill
Its totally roadkill
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Mateja



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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24844437 - 12/13/17 06:12 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I could swear that the video I saw years ago was with RR cause I remember one of his faces when he is proud over his rye prep, and yesterdasy I was trying to find those videos on youtube to see his face I couldnt find one video with anyone else besides Roadkill. was this all in my mind? I dont get it are there several editions of that series?
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Mateja]
#24844442 - 12/13/17 06:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is with RR. The videos feature RR and roadkill. The PF tek scenes with roadkill were filmed by RR with roadkill giving the tutorial.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: natedawgnow]
#24844448 - 12/13/17 06:16 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I confess i went in jo ann fabrics looking for chocolate molds..when i hit the isle dedicated to mason jars..i almost shed a tear.
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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Mateja]
#24844462 - 12/13/17 06:24 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok. Here is the deal. My cultures and jars were fine. They were absolutely clean. I know what contams look like by now. I fixed my SAB work. I also cleaned my bathroom where the trich was clearly coming from because my trich issues are gone. The trich got in via me trying to add sterile water and make a syringe from a plate. This led to tons of fucked up jars. This was when I wasn't using the best practice and moving too fast. Also If there was mucor in my petri dishes I would have noticed it. Pin mold is quite striking with it's long hairs and black sporangium and it grows ridiculously fast. It's also everywhere. I guarantee you my grow room/bedroom needs a cleaning. I've been neglecting it for a long time. It's very dusty.
Now think of it like this. You open a bin with some nice wet nutritious coir. You have a heavy spore load in the air of mucor pin mold which colonizes rapidly. Some of those millions of pin mold spores in your room float down onto this nutritious material while your mixing it. It is then mixed together with the clean cubensis mycelium. The cubensis mycelium is in a weakened state from being broken apart in the jar. Even at it's healthiest it's mycelium can not keep up with the voracious mucor. Are you still following me here?
My other edibles get mixed into sterile bags which are carefully opened just enough to put the grain in. They don't contaminate. They are not exposed to the surrounding air.
The issue happening now is outside of the box. The multispore jar was colonizing more than long enough to notice any latent contams. Also my other jars were clean with my oysters and lions mane. I have no problem admitting when I have contaminated something and when I know it's my fault.
I'm pretty sure I have just created a massive sporeload of mucor in my room from all the bad grows. I have a much higher level than most.
Also some grain prep pics. I'd love to do a video but my 18-55mm lens is making a whirring noise and won't focus anymore. I had to take these with a 55-200mm lens. Maybe one of these days when I can afford to get a new lens I'll do one. Especially if I am still have issues after this next grow.
So I take some grain and boil it to the proper hydration. Then I let it seam off and cool. Then it goes into clean dry jars after making sure it's dry enough. I put on the lids. I give it 90 minutes at 15 psi. My PC fluctuates between 13-15 so I am going to give the grain an extra 30 minutes this time. I always make sure to wait for it to get up to pressure before I start timing it.




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JHOVA
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24844484 - 12/13/17 06:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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How are you fruiting edibles without fresh air?
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: JHOVA] 2
#24844491 - 12/13/17 06:41 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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from what i gather its because the cubes are the only thing 'spawned'. everything else is bag style.. i think.
anyway thats like a glaring red flag for dirty spawn. it looks fine acts fine, then spawned and boom .
that means the definition of 'fine' isnt where it needs to be. and it all starts in the SAB/fh in my opinion.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: mushboy]
#24844500 - 12/13/17 06:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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IΒ΄ve never heard of this problem before that people are dealing with contams becuase of spawning coir in open air, it has to be the spawn. I understand that certain mold and bacteria go for the mycelium itself but itΒ΄s still staggering to think that some stuff are that fast and effective that a few of their spores can kill healthy strong mycelium shortly after contact with bulk substrate. It doesnt make sense if one looks at it like a detective. Hope you find a solution.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Mateja]
#24844507 - 12/13/17 06:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea coir is contam resistant even weeks later in my hd bucket. I think your spawn is bad and you are getting lucky with edibles.
If mushroom therapy can turn his trich bomb intoa mush factory i see no reason you cant. Is it a pride issue?
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Josex
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: mushboy]
#24844512 - 12/13/17 06:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now think of it like this. You open a bin with some nice wet nutritious coir. You have a heavy spore load in the air of mucor pin mold which colonizes rapidly. Some of those millions of pin mold spores in your room float down onto this nutritious material while your mixing it. It is then mixed together with the clean cubensis mycelium. The cubensis mycelium is in a weakened state from being broken apart in the jar. Even at it's healthiest it's mycelium can not keep up with the voracious mucor. Are you still following me here?
It doesn't work that way at all. As usual, I knew it was going to be impossible to change your mind because you're already dead set on that being the cause. What about me having a huge and I mean huge trich spore load in my place? It doesn't contaminate my tubs at all.
Weakened or not weakened, contaminant spores won't germinate on something 'alive' as a colonized grain kernel.
Also, I've left CVG for months in a bucket and it didn't contaminate at all.
Strong the force is with this one.
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Mateja



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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: JHOVA]
#24844520 - 12/13/17 07:00 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It could be the sterilizer, Im sure TBC knows how to inoculate jars and knows how to inspect them, as mushboy said a clean looking jar can reveal itself once spawned. I would sterilize qt jars for 2h even with my Presto, even tho I know I could potenially get away wth 60min, but adding 30 min saves you that headache and you can narrow down your problems further, makes it easier to find solutions.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: JHOVA] 1
#24844531 - 12/13/17 07:07 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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JHOVA said: Is it a pride issue?
i know it was for me its like admitting your kid is dumb/ugly.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Mateja]
#24844534 - 12/13/17 07:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well TBC is a stubborn cat lol. She does not like to listen to the copious amounts of advice from capable members in tjis thread lol. Theres been at least 6 suggestions that she COULD try inmediately and always with an excuse.
Shit if its really that bad top fruit the jars with a verm casing and do muda bottles or pf tek or invitro pucks or v-tek intro pp5 containers.
My old boss used to say " there's always a solution,(for a customer) theres no guarantee they will necessarily like the solution."
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: JHOVA]
#24844571 - 12/13/17 07:46 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some people are dead set on tinkering and coming up with their own way to do things in mush cult. Most of them donβt stick around here for long but we have an exception in this case lol
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: Germs] 1
#24844589 - 12/13/17 07:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Germs said: Some people are dead set on tinkering and coming up with their own way to do things in mush cult. Most of them donβt stick around here for long but we have an exception in this case lol
It's good to come up with your own stuff, but first things first. Be a sponge, listen carefully, learn, observe and finally unlearn like a mofo if you want. Some are hell-bent on dismantling a system before even knowing how it works.
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tryptkaloids
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24844590 - 12/13/17 07:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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make a syringe from a plate. This led to tons of fucked up jars. when I wasn't using the best practice and moving too fast.
I saw that coming when you first came in here all over zealous.
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Even at it's healthiest it's mycelium can not keep up with the voracious mucor.
where are you getting this from? At its healthiest cube myc should have that fully colonized by the time mold even germinates.. (which it likely wouldn't do with coir)
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The issue happening now is outside of the box.
it never is. Quote:
was colonizing more than long enough to notice any latent contams.
long colonization times can indicate a hidden infection. Quote:
I have no problem admitting when I have contaminated something and when I know it's my fault.
no, but you seem to have a problem knowing when you have contaminated spawn and admitting its your fault... There's literally no other thing that could cause failure than you... Its not your coir prep.you either don't use your sab properly or its defective.
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I'm pretty sure I have just created a massive sporeload
maybe, but I leave fruit to grow mold on the counter with no concern, my sab is not even a foot away from a black mold covered window. It doesn't give me issues. Thats why we use still air boxes...
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist. Next CONTEST is January (rules coming soon) [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24844668 - 12/13/17 08:53 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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brutal honesty im ok with. Its the lying i cant take to yourself or others. Fuck denial.
My mom is on the tail end of her unemployment and she is ill prepared. Months ago i was telling her "you should think about spending less time doing ministerial preaching door to door and more time making sure you can pay your rent." She is a hardcore religious zealot 100% for life. At this point in our lives we dont fight on that ever but there was a period when it was destroyed yuhg the fabric of mother and son.
Months go by and my brother moves out of the house and that money source leaves with due warning. Still she chooses denial and clings to a fantasy. My brother and father are much further away from her leaving the onus of her care in my responsibility. A burden for me and i get my stomach in a knot worrying. She calls me for rent money which i happily oblige but when we meet she says she has no ideas and get this refuses to plan anything out. She says shes going to be homeless.
That conversation was infuriating. It was a person who has given up on working on bein self sufficient and just wants to rely on welfare while being able bodied and of able mind. Even though shes an adukt with agency i feel responsibikity to ky mom as the eldest son. Later i find the out she has a bunch of money tucked away and shes working odd jobs. For me now i think its best for my mental health to just send money and not ask questions. CUz i aint got time for lies an deceit when all she wants is money.
Thanks for listening.
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