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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24611507 - 09/07/17 12:40 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by TheBlackCatReason for deletion: redundant.
Edited by TheBlackCat (09/07/17 12:47 PM)
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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24611519 - 09/07/17 12:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just had this conversation of a facebook page where a guy proceeds to ask how everyone dries their grains. He has them sitting out on a large plastic bag in the sun. For some reason I decide to help knowing this will be a losing battle from the start. I confess I know why you guys get pissed sometimes even though sometimes you don't always go about it the right way. Even at the end I held my composure.
So I'll just summarize because shroomery isn't letting me copy and paste text for some reason. Guy has a photo of his grains out on a plastic bag in the sun and asks how people dry their grains and says their kind of sludgey. Guy wants to know why it's not ok to use burst grains. I tell him the main reason you can't dry out burst grains is because you are losing all the moisture content and also the thing about putting sludge int a jar opening up room for contams that wouldn't normally be able to grow. Blah blah blah. Guy is still arguing. I say sorry you messed up your grains it happens to all of us you just throw them out and do them the again the right way way which I outlined for him. Then he's like basically I'll just put them in the jar and use them. I have to at least try and learn from my mistake. Then I facepalm so hard my head hurts for the rest of the day and leave the conversation. Cause common sense.
Edited by TheBlackCat (09/07/17 01:12 PM)
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tryptkaloids
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24611883 - 09/07/17 03:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree that he should be doing things differently but I'm still not 100% convinced that burst grain hurts anything. wet grain definitely but if the water content is right they should be fine right?
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Steevo
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24611946 - 09/07/17 04:11 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ron White said something like "Its not THAT the wind is blowing, but WHAT the wind is blowing. If you get hit by a volvo, it doesn't matter how many sit ups you did that morning"
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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Steevo]
#24612161 - 09/07/17 05:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your grains are all burst and leaking the inner core which is the nutritious part and also the part that absorbs the moisture by drying it out you are drying out the core materials too much. When grain dries it's the outside part that gets dry and the inside is able to stay at an optimal moisture level without creating excess moisture and slime from all the starches congealing.
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Steevo
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist *DELETED* [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24612187 - 09/07/17 06:03 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Post deleted by SteevoReason for deletion: Accidental double post
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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Steevo]
#24612224 - 09/07/17 06:23 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh shit. The tip of Florida is going to get slammed. You guys should probably start evacuating today so you don't get stuck in evacuation traffic. That's one scary ass storm. Hope everyone is ok. 185 miles per hours is nuts.
Edited by TheBlackCat (09/07/17 06:23 PM)
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50mmprime
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24612291 - 09/07/17 06:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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My Secret Pride - For context, I just started growing. Did my first grow in July/August which was two hpoo monotubs of Golden Teacher from a multispore syringe to rye. I immediately moved on to agar and have successfully isolated monoclones of golden teacher, and store-bought shiitake and oyster. I have 14 rye jars fully colonized from them, zero contaminants! Helps I have a biomedical science background for the sterile technique.
What I am lamely proud of is that my last time visiting my older brother, who works for a scientific supply company, I managed to pack over 100 sterile petri dishes and several conical tubes from his sample stock in my carry-on baggage. I don't have a ton of money to put into this hobby right now and I love finding ways to expand my access without spending more, such as cloning.
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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: 50mmprime]
#24612493 - 09/07/17 08:32 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm constantly broke 50mmprime. All m y agar is done in the flat half pint jars ball does with plastic jar lids with SFD's. Nice score! Also good work. So where does your brother work so I can go raid his stock?
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SpitballJedi
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24612537 - 09/07/17 08:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I admit I'm not an amateur mycologist. Learning to grow cubes was a means to an ends. I like helping people though.
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: SpitballJedi]
#24612548 - 09/07/17 09:01 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said: Learning to grow cubes was a means to an ends.
Can you elaborate
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NothingsChanged
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24612578 - 09/07/17 09:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would avoid the playground park pretty sure they put stuff in there to keep the bugs at bay. Often it's crap ground up pallets anyway or just straight up bark or the beauty bark Cedar red stuff.
Tip: stay way from All wood that gives you Tiny splinters while handeling. Useing your thumb nail, see how hard it is to leave a mark(dent). It should be dificult where as the wood you don't want is easy to sink your nail into. Learn your Desidous trees and keep an eye out while going about your day, even a fee branches chopped up can buy you some time while the mycilium is makeing the jump from the grains to the wood. Same goes for the seed cones. Psilocybes have no problem takeing to hazel nut shells but only temperarily. Check your public works to see where they put there chips from storm trees and regular utility tree thinning. Ask your custom cabnet shop for some planer tailings. Check the staes web site for the nearest restoration project and bag up some wood chips. Go to the lumber yard and buy some maple,oak,walnut,ect trim and sand off the finish and start widdeling. Home depot carries some mulch made from hard wood. Read the label.
Wood lovers will eat multipul variety's of evergreens. It's just difrent paramiters and variations to the tecniques.
If sourceing wood is a issue, i would sugest starting with any number of ways to get them on to wood chips, asmentiined above. Once theve made the jump to wood start slowly introduceing types of wood that are in abundance in your area. The goal being more of your local wood and less of the hard to find wood as your patch is a few generations down the road. Or not and continue to strugle for the woodeach time. Shit. Sand a baseball bat and start chopping. Get a box of hard wood flooring and sand and chop that. Beat up your cutting board smash your oak entrrtainment center. Theres hardwood everywhere if you look at the world in a diffrent way. wasn't directed at anyone in particular.
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Buddha19er
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: NothingsChanged]
#24612703 - 09/07/17 10:49 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Work has me on 3rd shift till Oct. and, it's got my schedule all jacked up. So, I have a little myco work piling up. Gonna get some sub mixed up for these guys. Gonna try 2 shoeboxes of Hpoo, coir, and Verm. They are PE6 that I transferred to agar a few times till it looked nice. Hope everyone's having a good one...
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hamloaf
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Buddha19er]
#24612723 - 09/07/17 11:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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That Conocybe Indica is super agresive.
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TheBlackCat
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: hamloaf]
#24612801 - 09/08/17 12:01 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm. You are probably right. It most likely is ground up junk wood. It's more for mixing into my wood pellets for my lions mane mushrooms. But that's good to know if I do a patch this spring. I was hoping to find some red alder or something similar. What has everyone here had luck with as far as lions mane goes?
I confess I fail at the finding wood thing. I will have to find a wood turner around here or a wood shop.
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LizardWizard
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24613366 - 09/08/17 09:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well what do you know, Spitballjedi in the house! Those ends, were those growing medicinals?
BC, Hericium does well on beech chips. They're available pretty cheap here at reptile stores, but I don't know if they will be available in the US. You CAN find them as BBQ smoke chips, but I hear they cost a lot.
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dhype773
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: LizardWizard]
#24613370 - 09/08/17 09:58 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about aspen chips?
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: dhype773]
#24613397 - 09/08/17 10:11 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The bbq chips and pellets should start going on sale in the next week or two. Last fall Wal-Mart had 40# bags of hardwood bbq pellets on clearance for $0.99 each.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: foragedfungus]
#24613452 - 09/08/17 10:49 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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dhype773
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Mycolorado]
#24613461 - 09/08/17 10:55 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Confession: I check all of my plates and jars every day.
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