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Germs
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: LizardWizard]
#24423811 - 06/21/17 12:56 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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LizardWizard said: Same shit, meaning fossilized = unfossilized??
You gotta lay some o that logic on me, cause I aint following
The description I have says crystallized, not sure that translates to fossilized. I'd just have a hard time imagining the millions of pounds that get used each year for recreational water facilities would be derived from a nonrenewable resource.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Germs] 1
#24423820 - 06/21/17 01:00 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude... we use millions of pounds of plenty of nonrenewable resources every single year.
Oil, peat moss, coal, natural gases, etc.
from wiki
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Diatomaceous earth consists of fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. It is used as a filtration aid, mild abrasive in products including metal polishes and toothpaste, mechanical insecticide, absorbent for liquids, matting agent for coatings, reinforcing filler in plastics and rubber, anti-block in plastic films, porous support for chemical catalysts, cat litter, activator in blood clotting studies, a stabilizing component of dynamite, and a thermal insulator.
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Germs
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: natedawgnow]
#24423827 - 06/21/17 01:02 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Dude... we use millions of pounds of plenty of nonrenewable resources every single year.
Oil, peat moss, coal, natural gases, etc.
from wiki
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Diatomaceous earth consists of fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae. It is used as a filtration aid, mild abrasive in products including metal polishes and toothpaste, mechanical insecticide, absorbent for liquids, matting agent for coatings, reinforcing filler in plastics and rubber, anti-block in plastic films, porous support for chemical catalysts, cat litter, activator in blood clotting studies, a stabilizing component of dynamite, and a thermal insulator.
Makes sense to me.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Germs]
#24423835 - 06/21/17 01:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe it would work if it was just in the casing layer. Try it out. I imagine the gnats having no trouble finding accessible spots lower than the casing though...
Well, I don't know what they mean by that, but it's made from fossilized crustacean matter. Fossilization is the replacement of all organic matter by mineral matter, if I'm not mistaken. Crystallized should mean it was made into crystals, which I think would entail dissolving or vaporizing it and crystallizing it again. Just guesswork here though, and I doubt they do that, but hey, who knows..?
Does gasoline come from a renewable source? People have no respect for non-renewable sources when money is involved. Simple as that. And equally sad.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: LizardWizard]
#24423868 - 06/21/17 01:17 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I confess, I feel this culture I expanded is not of the fruiting nature, will be doing some agar work tonight and see if I can get a good producing culture.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: abductee] 2
#24423962 - 06/21/17 01:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I confess I'm pretty pleased with this MS PESA culture. I did a bit of agar work but hardly an isolate. I'm excited to see what the mature fruits look like. I'm happy with the pin set though!
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24423972 - 06/21/17 02:07 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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pesa is always a pleaser
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24424143 - 06/21/17 03:16 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I must confess PESA has never disappointed me
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
#24424204 - 06/21/17 03:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to know!
What are the characteristics for the trip?
And I know some ppl are like a cube is a cube, but fuck that, a Peru variety always makes me laugh n giggle at the start, and a Golden Teacher always makes me curl up and feel really twisted up on the come up. Others I haven't got enough experience with to really put characteristics to it...
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: LizardWizard]
#24424247 - 06/21/17 03:56 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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LizardWizard said: Good to know!
What are the characteristics for the trip?
And I know some ppl are like a cube is a cube, but fuck that, a Peru variety always makes me laugh n giggle at the start, and a Golden Teacher always makes me curl up and feel really twisted up on the come up. Others I haven't got enough experience with to really put characteristics to it...
My logic/voice of reason wants to agree with the first thing you said but objective experience has shown me that different varieties do have different effects. The martinique I recently have grown seems to give a more sedated trip than usual and a couple of friends had told me the same thing within a few days of me giving them some.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Germs]
#24424272 - 06/21/17 04:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Check this out
https://supplementpolice.com/food-grade-diatomaceous-earth/ http://diatomaceous.org/
I confess I have taken DE for over a year and feel great. Drink the muddy water
edit: It's gotta be food grade, not the industrial shit
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Edited by Just_A_Noob (06/21/17 04:04 PM)
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Germs]
#24424392 - 06/21/17 04:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Interesting!
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Germs said:
My logic/voice of reason wants to agree with the first thing you said
Let me inform your logic a bit, with how my logic works. A cube is a cube. That is true for the basic appearance of a cube, and the genetic makeup, as humans are humans, and dogs are dogs, and humans look like humans, and dogs look like dogs. You can see what species you are dealing with by examining the DNA. But even though you can find that it's canine or human DNA, you won't find the precise dog or person unless you have their DNA to compare it with. And you have a whole lot of different dogs, and a whole lot of different people. To start, you could say, for instance, we have schnauzers, boxers, staffords, OR, we have light skin people, dark skin people, red skin people and yellow skin people. Now here's where it gets interesting. We started out, as a race, in Africa. There, a genetic defect caused mutations causing whiter skin. They were abolished for difference in appearance, and got heavily burnt, so they moved towards India. There, more lighter skinned people got together, and started breeding. Then, we moved to the area of Turkey, where we got even lighter. Now I'm confused on how it moved along from here, to be specific, whether it was a splitting up or a meeting of races. Anyway, either we met asian people who were yellow skinned, or we moved towards asia to become lighter skinned with a yellow tinge to it. Anyway, the people from around the area of Mongolia moved over the frozen see, lived there actually for several generations, to arrive in America, where the people evolved into the Native Americans. The tribes of South-America, have been known to take mushrooms. They didn't start out using cubes though. They started out using the FLY AGARIC! But the temps got hotter, and the Fly Agaric was no longer as potent, while the cubes flourished. So they moved on to cubes. Cubes had to adapt as well. And they did so all around the planet. So now, we have cubes that have adapted to Costa Rican weather and available nutes, and ones that have adapted to Chinese wheather and available nutes. On one hand, that's not so different. But on the other hand, how much of a difference do you really need to create a change? So yes, a cube is a cube, but not all cubes have the same lineage. If I, with my poor people lineage, stand next to a highly educated doctor, who comes from a long line of doctors, and another guy next to it, who got rich during birth and has had family money for generations upon generations, will you not taste the difference? We are all human, and a human is a human, but if I can taste a difference, are we really all the same?
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24424414 - 06/21/17 04:49 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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DE is a topic I'm super familiar with. I use the stuff for everything and have a bunch right now. You can buy food grade DE and it's totally safe to eat. It gets mixed in cattle feed to kill intestinal parasites and promote healthy joints. It's also used in grain silos in agricultural applications. It can be used to kill intestinal parasites. I refuse to use flea treatments on my cat. She once got fleas from a foster cat I had and it was easy to get rid of. I just rubbed it into her fur for a week and also used one of those powder insecticide dusters to spread it around my house. My most recent application was a few years ago I had bedbugs in a place. I dusted everywhere with it and applied chemicals. I put it in all the walls and cracks and those bastards were as good as gone. Luckily I noticed them as soon as I moved in. They are not crustaceans. They are the exoskeletons of unicellular organism called diatoms. The look like pretty pieces of glass under the microscope. I always have a supply of it on hand. handiest stuff ever.
My only warning don't breath it in. It is harmful to lung tissue if you breath in enough over time. It's not toxic but has a mechanical action on the tissue. Much like asbestos which is inert and harmless and non toxic until it kicked up into the air. Always wear a dust mask when applying large amounts to large areas or small areas on a regular basis.
Almost forgot. My pressure cooker is going through it's first run! Got the baking soda and water in and waiting to see if the burner will get it up to pressure and keep it there. So EXCITE!
Edited by TheBlackCat (06/21/17 04:55 PM)
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24424744 - 06/21/17 06:54 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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baking soda? never heard of that one before. I use vinegar
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: tryptkaloids]
#24424753 - 06/21/17 06:57 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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DE wont kill eggs. only heat treatments can kill bbug eggs. i used to be certified in bedbug extermination and inspection
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24424775 - 06/21/17 07:06 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I heard peppermint extract is good to kill bed bugs but i think mushboy is right about the eggs its like lice my daughter was in preschool and brought em home i trird everything to kill them fuckers my hair was so thick i just had to cut it really a depressing day haha
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Boogieman47]
#24424788 - 06/21/17 07:10 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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lots of pet safe bug sprays are peppermint extracts. they smell good
but are useless on larger bugs. dont know about bbugs. by law, i was required to use steam and heat treatments.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24424811 - 06/21/17 07:18 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bed bugs are no joke. Nothing works except heat treatment to get rid of them. Starting at 2 grand around here. One of my buddies had them and I chilled there alot.
I never got them guess they don't like me
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: mushboy]
#24424900 - 06/21/17 07:44 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes I know this. But yes you can kill them without heat with weekly treatments. I did a few chemical treatments with some stuff I ordered online. My cat had to become an outdoor cat for a little while. I bought a special high suction vacuum meant for insects. I made them throw out all their beds upstairs and couches and had the landlord purchase new ones with bed bug covers. They weren't allowed to have a couch until I was sure they were gone. I bought all the chemicals off a pest control site. Everything was washed and sealed in bags. I saturated everything on the regular with geranium and cedar oil in one of those sprayers. I sprayed every crack and hole and dammit got rid of those fuckers. Any eggs that did hatch and survive just died from the regular treatments and DE. Also hydropene. So much hydropene! It takes a certain amount of dedication. I even made the landlord have all the carpet removed from the basement. He was so pissed at me for making him do everything but the kids upstairs were getting eaten alive and looked like shit. When I first moved into this place it was a mess but I got free rent for the first few months which kinda wasn't worth the hell.
I was so pissed though at the ignorance of the people upstairs. They were like why are you spraying my room I don't have them in here. I don't have bites. i had to explain some people have immunity and in an infestation this small it would be hard to notice the. Also if I didn't spray their rooms all the bed bugs would go live with them instead. Well low and behold after inspection I did find them in there. After awhile of treating me like I was annoyance and being pissed off about the smell of cedar they were happy they were gone. How come some people act like such twats.
Anyways mycology stuff. Ran my cooker for the first time half full of water with baking soda like it said. No pressure after almost two hours. Going to run it on the burner again with less water and fill with hot water to start. It will probably work once it has less water in it. If not I'll have to try upstairs.
Edited by TheBlackCat (06/21/17 07:55 PM)
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24424909 - 06/21/17 07:47 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: My cat had to become an outdoor cat for a little while.
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