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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27403800 - 07/27/21 04:13 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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i hated the updated mess soooo much. ive always only been on mobile and the new one was just terrible and i just couldnt even get use to it.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Lenz]
#27403877 - 07/27/21 06:45 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lenz said: Our Father who art in heaven,
I confess I'm at a point in my cultivation career where I feel like I'm back to knowing almost nothing.
Been thinking about this graphic a lot recently:

8 months ago I was probably at the peak of Mount Stupid. Had a number of successful tubs, decent weight coming out, seemed like things were only going up from there on but oh how little I knew then.
Fast forward to today I feel like I'm just starting to crawl out of that low point. Past several months I was able to keep putting out decent tubs relatively consistently but battling mold, lackluster yields, and non optimal growth really put me in my place.
It's really not hard to grow cubensis but what I've come to get through my thick skull is how diligent one has to be to grow at a top level consistently.
So that's where I'm at now. I'm reevaluating everything, from basic ass shit like my field capacity, to my grain prep, to my tub conditions and so on and so forth.
It's a little rough letting go of that ego and misplaced confidence after you've achieved some initial success--but if there's anything I've learned it's that there's so much more for me to master and that I really need to keep my mind open to all the different possibilities and variables that affect success in cultivation.
Yeah when you first start you don’t have enough experience/sample size to be able to judge how things are going or what normal is. Plus you’re hyper cautious initially which increases the chance of success.
When you’ve only done two tubs and they both went great people have no idea if they grew them perfectly or just hit on awesome genetics. Then as you get comfortable and start to relax that’s when mold comes out of the shadows to catch you slippin.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: A.k.a]
#27404276 - 07/27/21 12:45 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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That mold will come and smack your ass down so quick for thinking your the MAN.
Just glad I pumped the breaks on my gourmet plans after getting humbled by various mushrooms I thought I "mastered".
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: rockyfungus]
#27404798 - 07/27/21 07:33 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I confess IV Ben doing about 6-8 hours of cult work a day for weeks and it's kicking my ass. I'm a slave to the fruits now. I also confess I just had 4 bags contam. Ohh well
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Mycobro420]
#27405359 - 07/28/21 07:57 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I confess I'm terrible about keeping notes on my clones and just about everything else shit is always a surprise
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: monkey_accident]
#27405971 - 07/28/21 05:40 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Write it on the plates, jar lids, and tub wall as you go.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Failboat]
#27406159 - 07/28/21 07:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Write it on the plates, jar lids, and tub wall as you go.

Sharpie gang!
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: roarkell]
#27406605 - 07/29/21 05:12 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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That’s for sure. One labeling mishap and you’ll never do it again.
I use tyvek on my jars so I just write on that, I can get like ten runs in before I fill up the circle which is when I usually change it out anyways.
Then I either dry erase my tubs or have a big piece of tape I write real small on so I don’t have to replace it for a ton of grows.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: A.k.a]
#27406631 - 07/29/21 05:48 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sharpie on the glass, Sharpie on Petri, Sharpie on a strip of green painters tape under the handle of the tub.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 2
#27409072 - 07/30/21 11:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I confess that my active grows have suffered dearly during these summer months. I have not been able to maintain optimal fruiting conditions in my tent and my contamination rate has increased significantly. I really needed this humbling experience after having such a great run for the first 8 months since I began growing again. I really thought I was unstoppable at one point and may have gotten a bit cocky.
There were projects that I wanted to get started on but will have to postpone until I get things figured out. The tent worked fine when temps were maintained without ac being pumped in. Since the heat of the summer, the temp in the tent has rose 10 degrees F and pumping in ac lowers the rh too much. Spent the past 1.5 months trying to find a good balance to no avail. It might just be easier to maintain good temps in my basement and grow in monotubs than to keep fighting with the grow tent conditions. I know there will be a few on here to tell me, "I told you so". I will accept it in complete humbleness. I feel like such a noob.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: BrownBear]
#27409196 - 07/31/21 05:23 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe research using a "Swamp Cooler" instead of an AC? It is my understanding that they actually increase humidity, instead of reducing it like an ac... 
That's more of an outdoor greenhouse application though...
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Dayglo Joe]
#27409240 - 07/31/21 06:48 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know you’re running a totally different set up but I have the same issues during summer, even using tubs. The ac just moves too much dry air.
I had to basically do a mono inside a mono to maintain decent conditions.
Can’t wait for these next two months to go by so I can scale up again.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Dayglo Joe]
#27409408 - 07/31/21 10:29 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you for the suggestion. After looking into swamp coolers, I don't think it will work for me due to having to fill up the tank every 5 hours or so.
AKA, sorry to hear that you are having similar issues. I have been driving myself crazy trying to figure out my mold issue on top of fighting the elements. I started growing in bulk sub bags that I have been sterilizing and inoculating with grain spawn. I have let the sterilized bags sit for weeks to see if they would mold, nothing. I have also inoculated bags with grain spawn and let the grain sit on top of the sub until fully recovered before mixing, no signs of mold. They would fully colonize and I would open the bags to fruit. The bags would sit there for weeks without fruiting until eventually mold would show up.
I learned that running the ac unit 1 minute every 20 minutes does not allow the ac unit to create cool air due to the short running time. That method worked great when I was running the ac just for FAE purposes. However, running the ac unit for 5 minutes or longer to get the temp down drops the rh down below 75%. I have even seen it drop into the mid 60's. At this point, I feel I am fighting a losing battle.
I know folks around here say that if you have clean spawn, you shouldn't have mold problems. But I cannot help but believe this isn't completely true due to what I stated above. I believe my mold issues are related to my environmental issues and not because of poor technique.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: BrownBear]
#27410810 - 08/01/21 02:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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I confess I thought I was in the clear from the green. I am getting the green on what I thought was clean spawn, but nah it comes out towards the end of colonization. My control plates have been greening out constantly and I got cocky too after a few years with no issues.
I might need to close down, deep clean, and wait till the cooler weather.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: rockyfungus]
#27410909 - 08/01/21 04:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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rockyfungus said: I confess I thought I was in the clear from the green. I am getting the green on what I thought was clean spawn, but nah it comes out towards the end of colonization. My control plates have been greening out constantly and I got cocky too after a few years with no issues.
I might need to close down, deep clean, and wait till the cooler weather.
This tells me it is most likely your technique or insufficient sterilization, probably a sterilization problem since your controls are also contaminating. Biological indicators, or spore tests are available for purchase online, this will tell you if you are having sterilization issues or something else. I recently had to have the gauge recalibrated on my pc because of sterilization issues, it was running 4psi lower than the reading on the gauge, so I wasn't getting adequate temperatures for sterilization.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Doc9151]
#27411529 - 08/02/21 05:48 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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God I’m Cooking my first grain jars tonight and 5 mins in as the cooker is steaming I’m thinking “should I go over one of the teks to make sure I got everything right” and I’m like “nah it’s pretty straight forward”. And all of a sudden I realise I haven’t unscrewed the lids holy shit.
I don’t know if that’s a big deal but it freaked me a bit. Has anyone done similar? Would the jars pop inside or what?
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Biskop]
#27411549 - 08/02/21 06:19 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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you are using unmodded lids? then they will most likely warp a bit if you are using simple plastic lids or might warp a lot if you are using leak proof plastic lids.....
.... I confess this happened to me a few times
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Baba Yaga]
#27411559 - 08/02/21 06:42 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha so it’s not too dangerous then!
Yeah unmodified lids, this is my 3rd run with the PC so I’m still a bit unsure. You know whether or not it’s going to explode. The first time I watched the cooker from the other side of the room haha..
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: Biskop]
#27411565 - 08/02/21 06:46 AM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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It’ll probably be ok, but it’s going to be such a bitch to open. Unmodded jars form a vacuum when they cook. I’ve bent a few lids in half trying to pry them off, a bottle opener or prying with the scalpel handle help a lot.
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Re: TRUE CONFESSIONS - of an amateur mycologist [Re: A.k.a]
#27411943 - 08/02/21 02:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Use a jar opener, with the belt/handle type ya know?
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