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Re: heart [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23948427 - 12/22/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would say mushrooms are the safest defined from your terms, they can even have a lowering effect on your blood pressure. LSD seems to be second to those but coming up on a good dose can definitely raise your heart=rate and BP until you settle into the trip post-peak. DMT seems to be much more intense on your blood pressure, but only lasts for ~30 minutes, so somebody else should chime in on that.


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Re: heart [Re: wu wei]
    #23948856 - 12/22/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I do recall reading that DMT gives a sharp rise in BP. LSD also, I believe, acts on dopamine and norepinephrine so it would likely increase BP more than pure 5ht agonists like psilocin/psilocybin, I'm just speculating on that though, I haven't read anything to confirm it. Psychedelics can also cause vasoconstriction which I would think would cause an increase in BP as well so those that are more likely to cause vasoconstriction such as LSD I would imagine there's an increase likelihood of that too. Lastly you have to consider the psychological effects, excitement and anxiety can cause an increase in BP regardless what causes them you know?


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Re: heart [Re: krypto2000]
    #23948865 - 12/22/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you have a problem with high blood-pressure and heart-rate, don't use psychedelics.

sucks but better safe than your loved ones sorry.


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Re: heart [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23948930 - 12/22/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

does anyone know any supplements you could take


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Re: heart [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23948982 - 12/22/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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If you have a problem with high blood-pressure and heart-rate, don't use psychedelics.

sucks but better safe than your loved ones sorry.




You could test a small amount, half a gram, a quarter gram, w/e, should not cause any significant issues. The valve issues are cumalative and happen over time though so like you say if you truly want to be safe don't use them.


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Re: heart [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23948987 - 12/22/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What builds the most pressure on the substances i believe is the anxiety, so if you're really up to it I'd take the shrooms.

If you're a regualar marijuana smoker then I'd suggest you smoke before the trip and if you feel anxiety while tripping maybe some tokes.
If you're not a regular user then lay off because it elevates BP for new users at first.

SET&SETTING, Be at the most comfortable place you can be and feel as good as you can feel before. DONT DO IT OTHERWISE.
meditate before the trip.

I'm personally not into tripsitters but in your case I think at least someone should know you're tripping in case something happens, because of the situation.

Again, If it's a major hypertension.. leave it.


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Re: heart [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23949171 - 12/22/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are you taking BP meds op?


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Re: heart [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23949286 - 12/22/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i am but im wondering if i should take anything when tripping that would be more suited than the stuff im on any suggestions


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