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All christians are terrorists * 6
    #23947677 - 12/21/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 8
    #23947689 - 12/21/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23947690 - 12/21/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah yeah. There are crazies from all types of religions. Some are much more common in others. We've all been over this plenty of times. :yawn:


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence]
    #23947763 - 12/21/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yeah everyone. let's turn away from facts.




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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 3
    #23947923 - 12/22/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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...the man took out a screwdriver and stabbed them, according to police.
He then drove away in a silver Ford Mustang, police said.




I thought Jesus rode a donkey but close enough.

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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 3
    #23948114 - 12/22/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Oh nooooooo, that sucks.



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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23948128 - 12/22/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What are those numbers exactly?


1349 molotov attacks
73 shootings
240 IED's bombings
38 knifings
18 vehicle massacres


AND THAT'S ONLY JERUSALEM AND JUDEA AND SAMARIA AREAS!.
this is the aftermath of 2015 here.. and it's lower than most other years.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: psilosalvia] * 1
    #23948234 - 12/22/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Give Islam another 400 years and it will evolve like Christianity maaaaaan.  :trollhide:


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #23948313 - 12/22/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Eminence said:
Yeah yeah. There are crazies from all types of religions. Some are much more common in others. We've all been over this plenty of times. :yawn:




Some people just don't want to acknowledge that Islam is a major problem in Western cultures, it's called not being intellectually honest about the situation.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: qman]
    #23948420 - 12/22/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All religions are evil


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948445 - 12/22/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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stickiestace said:
All religions are evil




Islam is far worst today, that's the point.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: qman]
    #23948459 - 12/22/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, it didn't modernize. if it did, it might see some adherents dropping out, and some of the abjuration and expurgation of some of the more antiquated material in their scriptures and laws.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948461 - 12/22/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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stickiestace said:
All religions are evil





how many christians strap bombs to their children and put them on public transit


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23948463 - 12/22/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

yes, this problem will just go away all on it's own.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23948470 - 12/22/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
yes, this problem will just go away all on it's own.





what the fuck are you even talking about


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23948471 - 12/22/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All people of faith are loving, compassionate people.

All tribalistic morons who use religion as a badge of being Really Fucking Special are idiots and potential terrorists.

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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23948483 - 12/22/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Id like to believe that religion can go away by its self but it sinks its hooks to deep in peoples brains. Then they engrain the same bullshit on their children. And the fact that churches dont pay tax? What makes them so special? because they have faith. Religion has the government in its pocket. Unfortunately I doubt a select few extremist muslims committing suicide will have any effect on the problem of religion as a whole. Hatred and hostility will plague this word as long as there is religious establishments in power.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23948493 - 12/22/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
yes, this problem will just go away all on it's own.





what the fuck are you even talking about



i'm talking about how this problem isn't gonna just go away on it's own. stop recieving them. who cares. it's not in the constitution that you have to receive people into your country. Those are Muslim families that will be, erm...having fun in the middle east...i wonder if they'll just sit idly by as ISIS destroys everything and the good guys! slaughter everyone.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23948500 - 12/22/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree. I have met great people that are christians, muslims, jews. Its not the faith or belief that is evil or wrong its the fact that people manipulate hurt and kill others using the same beliefs. Every religious establishment does it.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948502 - 12/22/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Atheists will rule the world


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23948505 - 12/22/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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akira_akuma said:
yes, this problem will just go away all on it's own.





what the fuck are you even talking about



i'm talking about how this problem isn't gonna just go away on it's own. stop recieving them. who cares. it's not in the constitution that you have to receive people into your country. Those are Muslim families that will be, erm...having fun in the middle east...i wonder if they'll just sit idly by as ISIS destroys everything and the good guys! slaughter everyone.





stop who, receive who? again, how is any of this my problem?


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23948537 - 12/22/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

dude, i never said it was your problem, go ahead, stop the terrorists. i mean, not you...i mean your government. get them to stop the influx of possible terror.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal]
    #23948541 - 12/22/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world




If only... world peace would finally be a possibility


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: stickiestace] * 3
    #23948543 - 12/22/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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stickiestace said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world




If only... world peace would finally be a possibility




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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: stickiestace] * 3
    #23948556 - 12/22/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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stickiestace said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world




If only... world peace would finally be a possibility




Have you ever met humans?


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23948557 - 12/22/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Who needs peace when you can profit from being right.


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Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
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Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Shiithead]
    #23948563 - 12/22/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:lolsy:


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Shiithead]
    #23948569 - 12/22/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

did you know that being right causes dopamine to be released into the synapses, giving the user (of the brain that's pumping the natural L-dopa) a euphoria, and also enacts receptors in the nucleus accumbens, creating an attachment in the reward centers in your brain- stimulating them.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: stickiestace]
    #23948577 - 12/22/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

stickiestace said:
Id like to believe that religion can go away by its self but it sinks its hooks to deep in peoples brains. Then they engrain the same bullshit on their children. And the fact that churches dont pay tax? What makes them so special? because they have faith. Religion has the government in its pocket. Unfortunately I doubt a select few extremist muslims committing suicide will have any effect on the problem of religion as a whole. Hatred and hostility will plague this word as long as there is religious establishments in power.




There's lots of non-religious people in government that are just as "evil" if not more.

"Hatred and hostility" are not based in religion, that's based in certain humans, stop blaming religion for human nature, non-believers are just as bad if not worse.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23948581 - 12/22/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Turtletotem said:
Quote:

stickiestace said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world




If only... world peace would finally be a possibility




Have you ever met humans?




I try to avoid them as much as I can, but they're like squirrels and pigeons. I'll inevitably gonna run into one eventually.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23948589 - 12/22/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That explains a lot haha

It feels pretty great. It also helps to have proper alignment of your spine and head.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23948592 - 12/22/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)


Not this crazy Christian shit again.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #23948597 - 12/22/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Jesus was a Jew.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal]
    #23948600 - 12/22/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

most religions are just stupid. they've been perverted, anyway, and they're no longer worth following traditionally; at least the big five are [excluding some areas of Buddhism and Hinduism, and certain sects of Christianity- like the Universalists, and the non-traditionalists] (Mainstream Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism)....


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23948683 - 12/22/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

DEUS VULT


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal]
    #23948694 - 12/22/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world



After we kill all the believers, praise dawkins


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Webster10]
    #23948935 - 12/22/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Webster10 said:
Oh nooooooo, that sucks.



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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: koods]
    #23948941 - 12/22/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world



After we kill all the believers, praise dawkins




I don't see how else we can win this...


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal]
    #23948958 - 12/22/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world



Catholics and muslims will churn out 4 kids for every 1 child born to an atheist family. If only one child per religious family unit defects to hedonism, there is still a 3:2 ratio of religious to sinful degenerate output.



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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal]
    #23948985 - 12/22/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world



After we kill all the believers, praise dawkins




I don't see how else we can win this...




nope, sounds inevitable to me. Patlal should run the deathcamps

I'd like to be in charge of propaganda if possible, but you guys can have the exterminating fun all to yourselves


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Ezuma]
    #23949012 - 12/22/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Ezuma said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
Atheists will rule the world



After we kill all the believers, praise dawkins




I don't see how else we can win this...




nope, sounds inevitable to me. Patlal should run the deathcamps

I'd like to be in charge of propaganda if possible, but you guys can have the exterminating fun all to yourselves




Alright well in that case, I'll need a trigger man, someone that can drive a backhoe and someone strong enough to dead lift corpses all day long


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #23949022 - 12/22/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You get whoever is next in line to haul the corpses for you, no need to waste extra labor.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23949029 - 12/22/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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PatrickKn said:
You get whoever is next in line to haul the corpses for you, no need to waste extra labor.




Did not think of that. You're an efficient psychopath aren't you?


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23949031 - 12/22/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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PatrickKn said:
You get whoever is next in line to haul the corpses for you, no need to waste extra labor.



:cookiemonster:
we must learn from the nazis, they were pretty good at it


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Ezuma]
    #23949035 - 12/22/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Ezuma said:
Quote:

PatrickKn said:
You get whoever is next in line to haul the corpses for you, no need to waste extra labor.



:cookiemonster:
we must learn from the nazis, they were pretty good at it




Well, they only had like 5 years of experience. They weren't about to go pro...


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Shiithead]
    #23949109 - 12/22/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'll step up as the trigger man. Hell, I can operate heavy equipment too. We need to create a gofundme to help supply all the ammunition that's going to be needed. I'm sure we'll shoot out the rifling and warp alot of barrels also. Add more guns to the list.:thumbup:


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    #23949276 - 12/22/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I'll step up as the trigger man. Hell, I can operate heavy equipment too. We need to create a gofundme to help supply all the ammunition that's going to be needed. I'm sure we'll shoot out the rifling and warp alot of barrels also. Add more guns to the list.:thumbup:





Kinda hard to outgun the Christofacists.  They invented and perfected the fat retard with a gun in one hand and a bible in the other.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23949369 - 12/22/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

According to federal law, retards aren't allowed to purchase firearms.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Shiithead]
    #23949371 - 12/22/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I'll step up as the trigger man. Hell, I can operate heavy equipment too. We need to create a gofundme to help supply all the ammunition that's going to be needed. I'm sure we'll shoot out the rifling and warp alot of barrels also. Add more guns to the list.:thumbup:




You're hired!

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According to federal law, retards aren't allowed to purchase firearms.




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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Shiithead]
    #23949481 - 12/22/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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According to federal law, retards aren't allowed to purchase firearms.



According to the law I'm allowed to own firearms and have two safes full of them, and a conceal carry permit.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus] * 1
    #23949525 - 12/22/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Blasphemy tbh



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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23949557 - 12/22/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Peeps are always going off about religion and whatnot, and although I do agree that there's lots of sketchy shit that goes on in the name of religion, I'd venture to say that It'd probably be a whole lot worse if we didn't have religions.. Cuz religions like Christianity and what not, they keep peeps at bay, they keep em from murdering, from stealing, from lying.. They inspire sum of the worst people to be the best people.. I mean the way I see it they're keeping something far more dangerous from getting out..


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23949559 - 12/22/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Shithead can take Jesus and shove him up his ass, spin around on him three times, pull him out and kiss him on the lips and make a wish.


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    #23949562 - 12/22/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Peeps are always going off about religion and whatnot, and although I do agree that there's lots of sketchy shit that goes on in the name of religion, I'd venture to say that It'd probably be a whole lot worse if we didn't have religions.. Cuz religions like Christianity and what not, they keep peeps at bay, they keep em from murdering, from stealing, from lying.. They inspire sum of the worst people to be the best people.. I mean the way I see it they're keeping something far more dangerous from getting out..



I some what agree. Normal people don't need a religion to keep them from doing fucked up shit.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #23949593 - 12/22/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That may be so, but I think crazy people could learn a thang or two from sum of these teachings..

I think peeps are generally good people, but we lack direction.. And I think sum religions could help direct folks in a good direction, Kinda like a map, or like a raft or a bridge..

I was at church a few years ago, only cuz it makes my mother happy when I go so I tend to go with her on special occasions, anyway I was listening to the priest preaching and even he said that if Jesus came back today he mostly likely wouldn't be involved in all this church stuff, but yea basically saying that the church isn't everything, but it is something atleast..


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Shiithead]
    #23949608 - 12/22/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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According to federal law, retards aren't allowed to purchase firearms.




They don't IQ test so they really don't know how many tards of firearms.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23949632 - 12/22/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

IQ shouldn't infringe on your rights. Mentally ill or past violent offences should.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: psilosalvia] * 1
    #23949821 - 12/22/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh nooooooo, that sucks.



:shitbird:




lol so history started in 1971?????! great representative stats...

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What are those numbers exactly?


1349 molotov attacks
73 shootings
240 IED's bombings
38 knifings
18 vehicle massacres


AND THAT'S ONLY JERUSALEM AND JUDEA AND SAMARIA AREAS!.
this is the aftermath of 2015 here.. and it's lower than most other years.




Shall we include Jewish terrorists of the IDF in this thread? How about the tens of thousands of civilian deaths every time they go into Gaza, and the continuous daily deaths? the destruction of civilian infrastructure to collectively punish a civilian population?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

Religion and politics do make it easier to kill, but where there is a will there is a way. I'm sure people have seen the south park where cartman is frozen and sees the future atheist wars!


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Webster10] * 3
    #23950121 - 12/22/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh nooooooo, that sucks.



:shitbird:






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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23950183 - 12/22/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Oh nooooooo, that sucks.



:shitbird:




lol

also notice the graph doesn't include christians at all



i wouldn't trust "evidence" or "statistics" from a source that uses the phrase "Islamism"




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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Patlal]
    #23950193 - 12/22/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Atheists will rule the world



After we kill all the believers, praise dawkins




I don't see how else we can win this...





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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: zZZz]
    #23950258 - 12/22/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That may be so, but I think crazy people could learn a thang or two from sum of these teachings..

I think peeps are generally good people, but we lack direction.. And I think sum religions could help direct folks in a good direction, Kinda like a map, or like a raft or a bridge..

I was at church a few years ago, only cuz it makes my mother happy when I go so I tend to go with her on special occasions, anyway I was listening to the priest preaching and even he said that if Jesus came back today he mostly likely wouldn't be involved in all this church stuff, but yea basically saying that the church isn't everything, but it is something atleast..




Religion just gives fucked up people an excuse for their actions. I know damn well If I make a bad decision, GOD isn't going to help me. God isn't going to pay for any of my legal needs if I make a bad decision. When a tornado destroys a town and devastates the area and kills many. Prayers sent by your mind are doing nothing. Man power, supplies and money is the only thing that will help. Magic jeti mind power doesn't exist. I wish it did but it doesn't.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23950394 - 12/22/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Why not? It's an actual word.

And yeah there should be a section for Christianity on there..but it would still be much lower on the chart than Islam.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence]
    #23950784 - 12/23/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

islam does not equal islamism

but still, those stats start in 1971. pretty sure life existed before then.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence]
    #23950903 - 12/23/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Why not? It's an actual word.

And yeah there should be a section for Christianity on there..but it would still be much lower on the chart than Islam.






i was not aware it was an actual word.  however, it appears to mean fundamental Islam/military Islam, which would be different than Islam


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23950975 - 12/23/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Seems like the greater the emphasis placed on judgement, the afterlife, heaven and hell, etc. the more likely followers of that strain of religion are to do fucked up things to other people.

It becomes a delusional escape from this reality. The afterlife is all that matters.

With Islam the extreme intolerance and condoning of violence is appalling. Voices of reason against the madness are killed off so its extremely difficult for the change to happen internally.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Grey Fox] * 1
    #23951052 - 12/23/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Christianity wasn't even on the chart.  Likely written by a christofacist.

The FBI said that far right terrorist are more of a common threat than Muslims.  How many militant cults, and armed groups rant about biblical interpretations as the bomb fed buildings and abortion clinics?


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23951104 - 12/23/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

CHristianity lol.

This fucking weirdo sitting behind a grilled window asking you to be a witness against yourself... Is he gonna film  this in case I run for office? What is he doing back there. Jerking off to your sins? Is he fucking a kd right next to you?

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    #23951118 - 12/23/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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CHristianity lol.

This fucking weirdo sitting behind a grilled window asking you to be a witness against yourself... Is he gonna film  this in case I run for office? What is he doing back there. Jerking off to your sins? Is he fucking a kd right next to you?

Stupid concept






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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #23951137 - 12/23/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I am starting to think that Abrahamic religions are poison to the mind, seems like they all breed destruction.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23951161 - 12/23/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23951164 - 12/23/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The FBI said that far right terrorist are more of a common threat than Muslims.




Maybe. But that's probably because the US hasn't been swarmed by Muslims yet.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #23951190 - 12/23/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The FBI said that far right terrorist are more of a common threat than Muslims.




Maybe. But that's probably because the US hasn't been swarmed by Muslims yet.





1) swarmed is definitely not the right phrase to use here.


2) there are millions of Muslims in America


3) in reference to #1 and your post, i think you are meaning asylum seekers


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23951239 - 12/23/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Even more of what Morel Guy would call "far right" people but still more terrorist acts coming from Muslims. I'm not so sure who to call asylum seekers because wherever those people go to, the countries that take them in tend to deal with lots of attacks and drastic increases in rape. They should be going to other Muslim countries, but Muslim countries don't seem to want to take them in.


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    #23951649 - 12/23/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Why not? It's an actual word.

And yeah there should be a section for Christianity on there..but it would still be much lower on the chart than Islam.




i was not aware it was an actual word.  however, it appears to mean fundamental Islam/military Islam, which would be different than Islam




not quite...thats a little reductionist but you are in the right direction. It has been used inaccurately to just mean fundamentalism/extremism and while it can manifest in this way, its not always the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism

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Islamism, also known as Political Islam (Arabic: إسلام سياسي‎‎ islām siyāsī), is an Islamic revival movement often characterized by moral conservatism, and the attempt "to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life."[1] Islamism favors the reordering of government and society in accordance with the Shari'a.[2] The different Islamist movements have been described as "oscillating between two poles": at one end is a strategy of Islamization of society through state power seized by revolution or invasion; at the other "reformist" pole Islamists work to Islamize society gradually "from the bottom up".[3] The movements have "arguably altered the Middle East more than any trend since the modern states gained independence", redefining "politics and even borders" according to one journalist (Robin Wright).[4]

Islamists may emphasize the implementation of Sharia (Islamic law);[5] of pan-Islamic political unity,[5] including an Islamic state;[6] and of the selective removal of non-Muslim, particularly Western military, economic, political, social, or cultural influences in the Muslim world that they believe to be incompatible with Islam.[5]

Some observers (such as Graham Fuller) suggest Islamism's tenets are less strict, and can be defined as a form of identity politics or "support for [Muslim] identity, authenticity, broader regionalism, revivalism, [and] revitalization of the community."[7] Following the Arab Spring, political Islam became heavily involved with political democracy,[4][8] but also spawned "the most aggressive and ambitious Islamist militia" to date, ISIS.[4]

Some authors hold the term "Islamic activism" to be synonymous and preferable to "Islamism",[9] and Rached Ghannouchi writes that Islamists prefer to use the term "Islamic movement" themselves.[10]

Central and prominent figures of modern Islamism include Hasan al-Banna, Sayyid Qutb, Abul Ala Maududi,[11] and Ruhollah Khomeini.[12] Some of these proponents emphasise peaceful political processes, whereas Sayyid Qutb in particular called for violence, and those followers are generally considered Islamic extremists. However, Qutb, unlike modern extremists, denounced the killing of innocents.[13]




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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence]
    #23951689 - 12/23/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Even more of what Morel Guy would call "far right" people but still more terrorist acts coming from Muslims. I'm not so sure who to call asylum seekers because wherever those people go to, the countries that take them in tend to deal with lots of attacks and drastic increases in rape. They should be going to other Muslim countries, but Muslim countries don't seem to want to take them in.




How many stories of right wing christian nut jobs attacking mosques/muslims do you think we've missed over the years? Sometimes things don't fit the media narrative. Some things are global news, others are..not.


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    #23951769 - 12/23/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know...are you just assuming there are plenty of them despite not hearing much about them?


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Well I imagine there are some that I haven't picked up on my radar but, no, i'm talking specifically of stories that don't really seem to get the coverage that Islamic extremist terrorism gets.

here are some links to give you an idea.. I accept that many don't really show a a clear Christian fundamentalist element, but some do.

2011 Dearborn mosque bombing plot

36 Anti-Muslim Incidents In The United States In The Last Month

Members of militia group charged with plotting to bomb Kansas apartment complex and mosque day after presidential election

'Columbine-type' terrorist attack on US mosque foiled

Texas mosque attack: Doctor 'shot and stabbed'

France mosque attack: Soldiers open fire on car 'attempting to ram mosque'

Attack on LA Pride event foiled hours after Orlando club massacre: Man with arsenal of assault rifles and explosives stopped 'on way to event






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Center_of_Murfreesboro - vandalized, burnt down, rebuilt/opened, and then legal action taken against it for 2+ years until the courts ended the lawsuits


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I am starting to think that Abrahamic religions are poison to the mind, seems like they all breed destruction.




:whathesaid:

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    #23952473 - 12/23/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You're right..anti-Islam attacks don't equal pro-Christian attacks..but either way, I'm not defending them either. I think they're also fucked up people, but it's pretty clear that Islam has been doing more harm to people around the world than Christianity these days, so I find it kinda odd that it's "offensive" to mention that, but saying the same thing about Christianity is like the cool thing to do now for some reason. Especially when people like Koods joins in..he would be much safer around a bunch of Christians than a bunch of Muslims..well..unless he was in one of those Christian countries in Africa, then he'd probably be in just as much danger. They're both fucked..but Islam is worse. Simple. Even ex-Muslims say so :shrug:


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    #23952489 - 12/23/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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but it's pretty clear that Islam has been doing more harm to people around the world than Christianity these days






direct harm, or on-the-surface harm, maybe.  think of all the imperial expansions that take place, often in the form of democracy or capitalism, that ruins people's way of life or routine, which are most often planned/executed by politicians who claim christianity


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    #23952498 - 12/23/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Islam is definitely the most violent form of monotheism out there right now. Its a huge problem and its scary to think that its the fastest growing religion in the world.

All monotheism is fundamentally flawed because it is based on delusion. There is no god. Prayer is just talking to yourself.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23952530 - 12/23/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That seems like kind of a reach to me..if their faith isn't part of a decision that ends up fucking someone else over it shouldn't count. If those people did those things in the name of Christianity, then it should count. Lots of people claim certain religions and barely even follow them, they pick and choose what parts of it they want to live by. A person that claims Christianity screwing someone over with a political decision is not the same as a Muslim sending their children into a crowd of people with bombs strapped to them to kill some "infidels."

Plus..it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these Christians you're talking about are not even Christian anyway. I'm willing to bet a lot of politicians claim to be Christian because this is a predominantly Christian country, and too many people are still too anal to really accept any atheism in government.


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    #23952548 - 12/23/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That seems like kind of a reach to me..if their faith isn't part of a decision that ends up fucking someone else over it shouldn't count. If those people did those things in the name of Christianity, then it should count. Lots of people claim certain religions and barely even follow them, they pick and choose what parts of it they want to live by. A person that claims Christianity screwing someone over with a political decision is not the same as a Muslim sending their children into a crowd of people with bombs strapped to them to kill some "infidels."






and how do you know each and every one of those people are actually practicing Muslims (which Islam in and of itself is not a violent religion as people so often claim) and not using it as a guise?


how is someone sending their kid in to harm people any different from a politician sending in troops to do their dirty-work? both have been indoctrinated by a set of principles that have a result in the future and are not likely to question the orders given.


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23952593 - 12/23/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Atheists will rule the world




Been that way for so long now. Obama, Merkel, Putin, every Asian Leader... Do you think any of them believe in god lol?


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Grey Fox]
    #23952684 - 12/23/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Islam is definitely the most violent form of monotheism out there right now. Its a huge problem and its scary to think that its the fastest growing religion in the world.




Probably, yeh. It also happens to be the religion under most pressure right now, they are getting killed all over the world so yeh i'm sure as hell that fuels extremist interpretations of the religion. If Israel ever loses its protection from the US, watch how nasty Jewish terrorists turn (if they aren't bad enough already). Groups under pressure lash out and religion always is flexible enough to help vilify whatever BS you want to do, even if they are sins in your own religion.

Just because monotheism means one god, doesn't mean there aren't different interpretations, otherwise there wouldn't be all the sects of all the abrahamic religions. There are some sects of Islam who have already gone through a reformation, and others who are still stuck in medieval Islam. Blanket statements dont get us anywhere - except maybe the statement "religion restricts people thinking for themselves".

They are all as bad as eachother if you take a longer perspective. Just because Christians didn't have bombs hundreds of years ago doesnt mean they treated non-Christians with pats on the back or mild "political" pressure .


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: demiu5]
    #23952697 - 12/23/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That seems like kind of a reach to me..if their faith isn't part of a decision that ends up fucking someone else over it shouldn't count. If those people did those things in the name of Christianity, then it should count. Lots of people claim certain religions and barely even follow them, they pick and choose what parts of it they want to live by. A person that claims Christianity screwing someone over with a political decision is not the same as a Muslim sending their children into a crowd of people with bombs strapped to them to kill some "infidels."






and how do you know each and every one of those people are actually practicing Muslims (which Islam in and of itself is not a violent religion as people so often claim) and not using it as a guise?


how is someone sending their kid in to harm people any different from a politician sending in troops to do their dirty-work? both have been indoctrinated by a set of principles that have a result in the future and are not likely to question the orders given.




So now are you saying that Christians who commit acts of terrorism can't be assumed to be Christian?


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    #23952750 - 12/23/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I know atheist muslims who would still consider themselves culturally muslim even though they don't practice. Identity is a broad thing.

just as I know atheist christians who celebrate christmas and do other culturally christian things.:shrug: It depends how you define the terms really.

When the US - a largely Christian country - invades and occupy Muslim lands, regardless of whether the people involved are religious or not, its going to be interpreted by some in religious terms.

When migrants from all over the Middle East and North Africa come to Europe, regardless of their particular individual religious interpretations (be they christian, muslim, atheist etc), its going to be perceived by some in the West in only religious terms - hence you hear people say that the European crisis is a "Muslim invasion":facepalm:. And it is labelled with a very particular interpretation of Islam..


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Re: All christians are terrorists [Re: Eminence]
    #23952764 - 12/23/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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That seems like kind of a reach to me..if their faith isn't part of a decision that ends up fucking someone else over it shouldn't count. If those people did those things in the name of Christianity, then it should count. Lots of people claim certain religions and barely even follow them, they pick and choose what parts of it they want to live by. A person that claims Christianity screwing someone over with a political decision is not the same as a Muslim sending their children into a crowd of people with bombs strapped to them to kill some "infidels."






and how do you know each and every one of those people are actually practicing Muslims (which Islam in and of itself is not a violent religion as people so often claim) and not using it as a guise?


how is someone sending their kid in to harm people any different from a politician sending in troops to do their dirty-work? both have been indoctrinated by a set of principles that have a result in the future and are not likely to question the orders given.




So now are you saying that Christians who commit acts of terrorism can't be assumed to be Christian?





no, i'm trying to dig to the root of your assumption that all those people committing violence are, in fact, Muslim




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I know atheist muslims who would still consider themselves culturally muslim even though they don't practice. Identity is a broad thing.

just as I know atheist christians who celebrate christmas and do other culturally christian things.:shrug: It depends how you define the terms really.

When the US - a largely Christian country - invades and occupy Muslim lands, regardless of whether the people involved are religious or not, its going to be interpreted by some in religious terms.

When migrants from all over the Middle East and North Africa come to Europe, regardless of their particular individual religious interpretations (be they christian, muslim, atheist etc), its going to be perceived by some in the West in only religious terms - hence you hear people say that the European crisis is a "Muslim invasion":facepalm:. And it is labelled with a very particular interpretation of Islam..






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    #23952771 - 12/23/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone's willing to admit that slaughters and other acts of terrorism in the past were in the name of religion..why can't that be true for today as well? When someone is willing to commit suicide to kill other people, and their last words are about "Allah", I don't think it's very crazy to believe that the attack was religiously motivated. Not to mention the fact that there's been some pretty solid evidence that even Muslims who don't participate in these acts really couldn't give less of a shit that others are willing to do it for them as long as they're not affected by it. Videos filmed from inside Mosques..polls being taken, etc.


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    #23952774 - 12/23/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Everyone's willing to admit that slaughters and other acts of terrorism in the past were in the name of religion..why can't that be true for today as well? When someone is willing to commit suicide, and their last words are about "Allah" I don't think it's very crazy to believe that the attack was religiously motivated.





i'm not saying they can't.  i'm asking how you know, FOR A FACT, that these people are Muslim


again, where is your proof?


i'm not a christian, but if i go out and kill someone or some people and declare it in the name of Jesus, does that mean i am a Christian, killing in the name of Christ?


sometimes it's easier/more acceptable to act in a certain manner, under false pretenses, than it is to act under one's own beliefs


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    #23952804 - 12/23/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Just because monotheism means one god, doesn't mean there aren't different interpretations, otherwise there wouldn't be all the sects of all the abrahamic religions...

Blanket statements dont get us anywhere...

They are all as bad as eachother if you take a longer perspective.




Try to be more consistent in your thinking. I think you missed my point: all monotheistic religions are problematic because they purport to have the absolute authority on truth and untruth... and yet they are all based on a delusion. When followers of a monotheistic religion carry out violence in the name of their one god it is abhorrent.


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    #23952808 - 12/23/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

How would someone know for a fact then in your opinion? How would you know a peaceful person who claims to be Muslim is actually Muslim and not just comparable to your average Christian who really doesn't know much about Christianity's past? If you think yelling "Allahu Akbar" before blowing dozens of people up in a suicide bombing isn't enough to make you believe they're religiously motivated then I don't see how you can counter me by mentioning Christian terrorists either. Sorry, but their "Taqiyya" practice is enough to make me suspicious of them all who claim to truly follow Islam. I mean, they should really do away with that whole thing if they want people to start trusting the peaceful ones more.


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    #23952814 - 12/23/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Everyone's willing to admit that slaughters and other acts of terrorism in the past were in the name of religion..why can't that be true for today as well?




it is! but who decides what is religious? Mental people forever have been interpreting Gods will and deciding that one act is religious and the other not. and as I said in my previous post, even if people weren't religious it can be seen as an act from a religious entity - the church or whatever.

religion and politics intertwine. When the Pope ordered the crusades, he was thinking of his own political power. When the peasants of Europe went to fight, they were the more religious ones. They went because the nobles were more concerned about politics rather than religion and didnt want to go at first.

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When someone is willing to commit suicide, and their last words are about "Allah" I don't think it's very crazy to believe that the attack was religiously motivated.




no I dont think its very crazy to think that either. But my point is that political pressures affect religions. When it happens that you have it written in your holy book that occupiers can be expelled with violence (seems reasonable, dont you think?), that aspect becomes more increasingly prominent when your country is being occupied in the present day. Religion in those moments serves as a tool to mobilise political/military forces.

If the Middle East wasn't under occupation, bombardment, division and dictatorship, perhaps the interpretations would be a bit more mellow.. but probably not because after a long relationship with the Saudis, we have already armed to the teeth the most toxic interpretations of Islam and they are rampaging.

Also if you actually look at the history of suicide bombing, its actually not religious at all. It goes against much of the Sunni sects. It is only when more recent fatwas are given to allow it to happen.. but that is for political/military means. Suicide bombing came from the Shia as there is already a part of Shia Islam where they self-flagellate at their "Ashura" celebration.


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    #23952817 - 12/23/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Try to be more consistent in your thinking. I think you missed my point: all monotheistic religions are problematic because they purport to have the absolute authority on truth and untruth... and yet they are all based on a delusion. When followers of a monotheistic religion carry out violence in the name of their one god it is abhorrent.




yes I think i did miss your point, its late here. I see your point :thumbup:


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    #23952818 - 12/23/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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How would someone know for a fact then in your opinion? How would you know a peaceful person who claims to be Muslim is actually Muslim and not just comparable to your average Christian who really doesn't know much about Christianity's past? If you think yelling "Allahu Akbar" before blowing dozens of people up in a suicide bombing isn't enough to make you believe they're religiously motivated then I don't see how you can counter me by mentioning Christian terrorists either. Sorry, but their "Taqiyya" practice is enough to make me suspicious of them all who claim to truly follow Islam. I mean, they should really do away with that whole thing if they want people to start trusting the peaceful ones more.






i don't think we can know, for a fact, without having some sort of research done into a person's past, nor am i stating factually that these people in question are or aren't.  you, however, are making such claims with little to no evidence for support.  hence why we've made this circle


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    #23952871 - 12/23/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I mean its crazy when you think about it. People kill other people in the name of god. And god is not real. Messed up. Seems like right now the biggest problem of this happening in the world is from Islam. Right?


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    #23953840 - 12/24/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I mean its crazy when you think about it. People kill other people in the name of god. And god is not real. Messed up. Seems like right now the biggest problem of this happening in the world is from Islam. Right?




They wage war across the globe.  Nearly every active conflict on the planet involves Muslims.  But I also know that the biggest victims of Islam are indeed Muslims themselves.


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the biggest victims of Islam are indeed Muslims themselves.



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    #23954396 - 12/24/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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