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We just need to accept that its fun to kill people
    #23947405 - 12/21/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast. The oldest book in the english language (sort of) is fucking brutal, a dude rips a monster's arm off and shit. I work with a guy that I've vividly murdered in my imagination dozens of times, complete with blood spurts and pleas for help.

I think the real problem is people can't just say "Welp, thats fucked up." I haven't physically harmed a human being since I was 14 (well, unless she asked me to :biggrin:). And I hurt people as a kid cause I got picked on, I was just defending myself half the time.

After a while the circle of thoughts just gets boring. We have violent instincts but our brains can overcome. Can't it just be that simple?


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23947427 - 12/21/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

We do have violent instincts and our brains can overcome it, our ability to do so resulted in what we call society.

Btw you're explanation of your thoughts of a coworker make you sound like a socio/psychopath (not necessarily saying you are, but that's quite in depth and vivid), unless of course he somehow tortures you and your family or causes you immense pain on a daily basis in which case I'd probably have similar thoughts. Usually I just say "fuck that guy" in my thoughts and move on.

I don't think anyone should or could comment on how fun it is to kill people just because they've pretended to do so in video games either :shrug:


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23947434 - 12/21/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I visualized cutting someones throat like 5min ago

Thats just human nature


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23947435 - 12/21/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We do have violent instincts and our brains can overcome it, our ability to do so resulted in what we call society.

Btw you're explanation of your thoughts of a coworker make you sound like a socio/psychopath, unless of course he somehow tortures you and your family or causes you immense pain on a daily basis in which case I'd probably have similar thoughts. Usually I just say "fuck that guy" in my thoughts and move on.

I don't think anyone should or could comment on how fun it is to kill people just because they've pretended to do so in video games either :shrug:



You PC brah?


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947439 - 12/21/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Not even close lol, I guess I just don't fantasize about murdering people lol

I mean I've had thoughts where I felt like I wouldn't care if someone died, but never making them plea for help and killing them in my own thoughts :shrug:


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947445 - 12/21/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I pressure cook all the time brah


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23947446 - 12/21/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Not even close lol, I guess I just don't fantasize about murdering people lol



You should try it. Thoughts are free (for the moment). When your mind has already created the most horrific suffering for someone, its much easier to fake nice. Its like "Haha yea, thats funny *YOUVE DIED 1000 DEATHS*" ..."Uh, excuse me what was that?" ..."Um, nothing, I'm getting over a cold"


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23947449 - 12/21/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Now I want to make a poll, how many people have violent thoughts like this

Its not something I would act out in society, but in war or self-defense I have no moral qualm about it, following through is another story considering Ive never done such a thing


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947455 - 12/21/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

in war or self defense I'd have no moral qualm about it myself. I'm not saying I don't have violent thoughts, everyone does, just not murdering people and making them plea for help but who knows maybe doing so is normal lol

Just never met anyone who has done anything that extreme towards me to evoke that kind of emotion out of me.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947464 - 12/21/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Now I want to make a poll, how many people have violent thoughts like this

Its not something I would act out in society, but in war or self-defense I have no moral qualm about it, following through is another story considering Ive never done such a thing



I can open my totally unassisted folding knife just as fast as an auto-knife. Not saying thats an accomplishment, a literal 4 year old could do it with practice (and probably get better than me pretty quickly). But if somebody sees you practicing they get super freaked out. I keep it clipped to my pocket, I might need to pull it out and use it someday, why own a weapon you can't even use effectively? If they were free I would take knife self-defense courses as well, sometimes intimidation just isn't enough.

When you prepare for the worst its impossible not to have violent scenarios run through your brain. In some of them your knife is stuck in an assailants neck. I didn't want to stab him, but in my brain he came at me bro. And I'm quite imaginitive, so its not like Poo Bear sticking a fork into a stuffed animal.

For me the difference is when you have a big poster you printed at Kinkos of your enemy from facebook on your wall, and you've learned how to throw shurikin at it


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947468 - 12/21/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer torture, killings gets old fast.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23947483 - 12/21/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I try to avoid violent thoughts, but sometimes you meet someone special...

:lol: I had a coworker who would bring a different pair of knucks to work every day, or a knife, once or twice a combo knuck/knife, funny guy and I wouldnt be surprised if hes used one before.

On the other hand there was this young lady who carried a knife for self defense... very bad idea, if she could even follow through with it, any mildly dangerous man could get it out of her hand in a heartbeat. It might work on some people but shes not cut out for stabbing some asshole. Better off with high quality mace and some running shoes


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SARAtonin]
    #23947486 - 12/21/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I was going to say, The shroomery conjures up the most intellectual discussions to ponder about...

Could of sworn this thread read "10 years ago".

No.

:justfuck:


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947490 - 12/21/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947498 - 12/21/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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On the other hand there was this young lady who carried a knife for self defense... very bad idea, if she could even follow through with it, any mildly dangerous man could get it out of her hand in a heartbeat. It might work on some people but shes not cut out for stabbing some asshole. Better off with high quality mace and some running shoes



Truth!

I HATED this one friend of mine from college cause she weighed literally 105lbs but she was convinced a set of keys and a can-do attitude would protect her. Really she was just a young woman from the country learning how powerless she really was in this hard world. But the rest of us paid for us cause we practically had to beg to walk her home at night


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 2
    #23947512 - 12/21/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The edge is so strong. I think you've just been hurt before dude, and you're in a weird emo phase. OP reminds me of that weird kid in class who always drew stick people being killed and tortured.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23947523 - 12/21/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The edge is so strong. I think you've just been hurt before dude, and you're in a weird emo phase. OP reminds me of that weird kid in class who always drew stick people being killed and tortured.



I'm just done feeling like the person you're trying to portray me as. And people like me should stop feeling judged as well

I approach people cautiously but kindly. A different girl that I work with whom I also hate, I never have violent thoughts about her. She had a really fucked up life and it turned her into a fucked up person. Granted, that doesn't stop me from hating her cunty guts, but I try to be patient with her and be understanding when shes being retardedly rude and accidentally a dick.

I want good things for good people. I also want death to the infidels. I refuse to believe those are contradictory ideas


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23947533 - 12/21/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The edge is so strong. I think you've just been hurt before dude, and you're in a weird emo phase. OP reminds me of that weird kid in class who always drew stick people being killed and tortured.




Not everyone can live sheltered behind a wall, I find it funny when people like you lash out and try to reduce someone to your perception of the common denominator. Since we're sharing opinions about eachother, I think you're petty and insecure.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947538 - 12/21/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

there is nothing wrong with violence if it's quarantined to to such an occasion as: someone tries to hurt you/kill you (this is proportional)-- then afterwards it's simply hate and will turn you.

but anger is nothing but a good thing- but needs to be controlled, otherwise it will destroy.

but that's the discretion. he need discretion.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947539 - 12/21/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The edge is so strong. I think you've just been hurt before dude, and you're in a weird emo phase. OP reminds me of that weird kid in class who always drew stick people being killed and tortured.



I'm just done feeling like the person you're trying to portray me as. And people like me should stop feeling judged as well

I approach people cautiously but kindly. A different girl that I work with whom I also hate, I never have violent thoughts about her. She had a really fucked up life and it turned her into a fucked up person. Granted, that doesn't stop me from hating her cunty guts, but I try to be patient with her and be understanding when shes being retardedly rude and accidentally a dick.

I want good things for good people. I also want death to the infidels. I refuse to believe those are contradictory ideas




so you're a Muslim?


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23947541 - 12/21/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Leave the hate behind man, there's no point in wasting time thinking about how much you dislike someone. I used to be very judgmental and angry at people all the time, but they cannot help being ignorant. All of us are ignorant of things at some point, the only thing you can do is hope that others come around.

I wish death upon terrorists/rapists/pedophiles but not on average people. You never really know what someone has gone through to become the way they are.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947545 - 12/21/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Truth!

I HATED this one friend of mine from college cause she weighed literally 105lbs but she was convinced a set of keys and a can-do attitude would protect her. Really she was just a young woman from the country learning how powerless she really was in this hard world. But the rest of us paid for us cause we practically had to beg to walk her home at night




Its hard enough being a man, Ive found myself in a lot of dangerous situations and am lucky to have skirted around so many of them. There are a lot of violent assholes out there and if you want to live free, you have to be able to deal with them. Its a shame women are disadvantaged by default and generally have to take it easy, simple activities like taking a walk through the city at night or hitchhiking become dangerous.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947548 - 12/21/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The edge is so strong. I think you've just been hurt before dude, and you're in a weird emo phase. OP reminds me of that weird kid in class who always drew stick people being killed and tortured.




Not everyone can live sheltered behind a wall, I find it funny when people like you lash out and try to reduce someone to your perception of the common denominator. Since we're sharing opinions about eachother, I think you're petty and insecure.




Okay? What does being sheltered have to do with anything? Everyone that lives in a house lives behind a wall smartass. My original post was only a light hearted poke but obviously it struck a nerve with you. :underage:


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23947551 - 12/21/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Keep melting, you came in here to talk shit about a regular, I dont care if your feelings are hurt.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947552 - 12/21/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

When I had a gun in my face while getting robbed, all I could think about was the most brutal ways of ending that fucker's life as I watched his friend going through my shit. I was soo close to actually paying some people off that knew where he lived so I could go through with it. Other than that..I don't really think about anything more violent than just kicking someone's ass.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23947559 - 12/21/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

you know what i'd like to do someday: string up someone in a glass aquarium with running water, to keep the Pepe clean and give them a vivisection, and i keep the Pepe on an adrenaline drip to keep him or her awake...and then intermittent drafts of flame and wind blow below them, as they are sequentially drenched in ethanol & sulphur compounds.



























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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947561 - 12/21/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You're obviously the one who is upset. I came here to discuss, not talk shit. If you could read properly you'd see that in my other replies. Stop acting like a child because someone has a different opinion.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23947570 - 12/21/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23947571 - 12/21/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You're obviously the one who is upset. I came here to discuss, not talk shit. If you could read properly you'd see that in my other replies. Stop acting like a child because someone has a different opinion.




Is that so? Is this what you call discussing and accepting someones differing opinions?


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The edge is so strong. I think you've just been hurt before dude, and you're in a weird emo phase. OP reminds me of that weird kid in class who always drew stick people being killed and tortured.





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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23947578 - 12/21/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You're obviously the one who is upset. I came here to discuss, not talk shit. If you could read properly you'd see that in my other replies. Stop acting like a child because someone has a different opinion.





you're arguing about opinions? and like...what? women? emo-shit....



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Eminence]
    #23947655 - 12/21/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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When I had a gun in my face while getting robbed, all I could think about was the most brutal ways of ending that fucker's life as I watched his friend going through my shit. I was soo close to actually paying some people off that knew where he lived so I could go through with it. Other than that..I don't really think about anything more violent than just kicking someone's ass.



In the olden days where honor meant something and people didn't go to jail for simple fights, I think I would feel the same way. But like, this motherfucker that I hate legit has spread rumors about me for no fucking reason, just cause hes a piece of shit asshole. Hes told me disguisting stories about shit hes done to people and laughed about it. I laugh all along just so I can hear more stories, reminding myself that I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, that kind of way of living is the wrong way, and when you get people to open up to who they really are, a horrifying number are barely veiled monsters.

There was a time when guys like him would have been called out as lyin cheats and gotten their ass beat or shot in a duel. But now it sometimes feels like, emotionally speaking, its only satisfying if its brutal and final.


I should yet again mention that I have literally never laid hands on a single human being in anger in 14 years. Not a push, not a grab, nothing ever. I'm fundamentally against it. But my animal instincts? They don't give a single fuck


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947667 - 12/21/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's normal to fantasize and think about murdering people occasionally. It's the sign of a healthy mind.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947676 - 12/21/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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You PC brah?



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23947684 - 12/21/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Eh maybe OP, I think theres a difference between fantasizing about something and actually feeling motivated to do it. Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan talks extensively about human nature and for the most part I completely agree, it all comes down to psychological egoism. And while I think killing is instinctual, its a very rudimentary way of dealing with your issues. I

feel like Killing is like the most primal way of dealing with your problems, and one of the reasons why the human species has been so successful is because were aware of the fact that if everyone could just killed each other, nobody would get any where. Its in our best interest not to kill, and not simply because the law says so. Its just advantageous for their to be a mutual understanding that by not killing each other, we can both go on to live happy lives instead of putting our self preservation at risk


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: OliverJames]
    #23947692 - 12/21/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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    #23947698 - 12/21/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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violence is never necessary




It very often is


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23947729 - 12/21/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

not unless you

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23947768 - 12/21/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23947806 - 12/22/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Bloodsheen have you ever watched real videos of people getting murdered? There's tons of videos of people around the world getting their heads hacked / ripped off with machetes and chain saws, people crying and bleeding, pleading to die. It's pretty horrible imo and is not fun at all. Killing often doesnt go smoothly like you might imagine it, and I'm sure the feeling and vibrations that you sense when cutting through human flesh, connective tissues and bone is spooky enough to make your skin crawl. Then you have a lifeless body to deal with. Im really surprised to see how many people imagine that to be fun.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: trees] * 1
    #23947829 - 12/22/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bloodsheen have you ever watched real videos of people getting murdered? There's tons of videos of people around the world getting their heads hacked / ripped off with machetes and chain saws, people crying and bleeding, pleading to die. It's pretty horrible imo and is not fun at all. Killing often doesnt go smoothly like you might imagine it, and I'm sure the feeling and vibrations that you sense when cutting through human flesh, connective tissues and bone is spooky enough to make your skin crawl. Then you have a lifeless body to deal with. Im really surprised to see how many people imagine that to be fun.




Yeah true, anybody who watches that shit for fun is not normal.

Blood and guts don't disgust me, but the writhing agony of seeing somebody in such immense pain being tortured is what really bothers me, about those kind of movies.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23947836 - 12/22/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast. The oldest book in the english language (sort of) is fucking brutal, a dude rips a monster's arm off and shit. I work with a guy that I've vividly murdered in my imagination dozens of times, complete with blood spurts and pleas for help.

I think the real problem is people can't just say "Welp, thats fucked up." I haven't physically harmed a human being since I was 14 (well, unless she asked me to :biggrin:). And I hurt people as a kid cause I got picked on, I was just defending myself half the time.

After a while the circle of thoughts just gets boring. We have violent instincts but our brains can overcome. Can't it just be that simple?




Well unless youve actually killed someone, you wouldnt know and your theory is bupkis.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SARAtonin]
    #23948060 - 12/22/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I prefer torture, killings gets old fast.




:shitmypants:

Ive had my fair share of violent fantasies towards murdering cops. Fuckin hate cops.

But i dont like gory violence. Blood makes me sick to the stomach. When bloody gory happens in a movie, i close my eyes or shield them with my hand.

My violent murder fantasies of cops are non-gory. I want to blow up a cop car with a cop in it with a rocket launcher or a gernade or a missle.

Seeing all the gore would make me sick but seeing the carnage of a cop car with a murderous cop inside blow to bits does sound appealing.

But since im not actually a murderer and i dont wanna be put in prison or a body bag, i dont indulge in my violent cop fantasies.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23948084 - 12/22/16 04:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23948108 - 12/22/16 04:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: trees]
    #23948157 - 12/22/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Undercovers have been spotted :takingnotes:

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 2
    #23948425 - 12/22/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast.




Killing shit in a video game isn't killing shit. It's a video game.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23948469 - 12/22/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Ive had my fair share of violent fantasies towards murdering cops. Fuckin hate cops.

But i dont like gory violence. Blood makes me sick to the stomach.




I made the mistake of recently clicking on a video clip that showed, in all its full graphic glory, a cartel torturing. They flayed the poor bastard's face off. Took the skin right off his face. To the point where you were basically looking at a skull. His arms were severed at the elbow. Legs severed at the knees.

He was still alive. You could still hear audible noises coming from him. His arms, or shall I say it, nubs, were still flailing.

From all accounts, this is/was one of the most graphic videos of its kind on the internet.

I got a pretty strong stomach. But even this shit got to me, man. I was borderline nauseous for a couple of hours after it and it will haunt me forever -- I'll never get that image out of my head. Ever.

And by the way, I'm not into gore shit. I never watch gore videos. Well not until this time, anyway. It's just somebody posted it at another forum, a regular forum mind you (not some gore board), and curiosity got the best of me. Unfortunately.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Niffla]
    #23948552 - 12/22/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if you face gets sloughed off to the bone, and you're still alive, and no narcotics to kill the pain?

yeah, yum, that just makes me body feel so good to imagine. :uhoh:

TRAITOC-MURDERERS, GOVERNMENT-DOCUMENTS,....AHHHAHHH

you don't want that shit.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: trees]
    #23949656 - 12/22/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bloodsheen have you ever watched real videos of people getting murdered? There's tons of videos of people around the world getting their heads hacked / ripped off with machetes and chain saws, people crying and bleeding, pleading to die. It's pretty horrible imo and is not fun at all. Killing often doesnt go smoothly like you might imagine it, and I'm sure the feeling and vibrations that you sense when cutting through human flesh, connective tissues and bone is spooky enough to make your skin crawl. Then you have a lifeless body to deal with. Im really surprised to see how many people imagine that to be fun.



Thats exactly what I'm saying, its all vicarious. I can tell my brain all of those things you said, how horrible it is to actually do it. But my animal brain doesn't fucking care, its territory has been invaded and must be defended. So I express my anger in as healthy of a way as possible, if I just shoved it down and pretended it wasn't there, THEN it'd be a problem

I also realized a lot of my anger comes from a high-stress environment, I'm currently looking for a more chill job so I don't get into such tension-filled scenarios


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23949715 - 12/22/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: mt cleverest] * 4
    #23949772 - 12/22/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I completely disagree. Violence in a video game and violence in real life are completely and utterly different and I don't think it is at all fair to compare killing characters in a video game to anyone in real life, nor can you even begin to judge your reaction to violence in real life unless and until you experience it.


Furthermore, if you're talking about human nature, yes, it is in our nature as a species to be violent but it is also in our nature as much if not more(perhaps being the one thing that has kept us from bombing ourselves into oblivion thus far) to be altruistic. There is a jarring(to some, I think it makes complete sense) theory that altruism is an inherently selfish biological trait that benefits the altruist on at least an evolutionary scale if not personally.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23949865 - 12/22/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thats some fucked up shit.

When i was young, i saw some "Faces of Death" videos. My friend was all into them. They werent that bad, some were just fake or silly, but some were real and quite distrubing.

Its just not for me. Too fucked up to watch.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23950067 - 12/22/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Unless you gunned down an entire crowd of real life people in those three hours I'd say your theory is crap.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Prozac]
    #23950078 - 12/22/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So If I'm so full of crap, why do violent video games outsell every other genre a hundred times over?

We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture, so now we have to kill millions of digital people to get it out of our system. If anyone here actually has an idea other than horror at my idea or just shitting on it, please post it


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23950101 - 12/22/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Leave the hate behind man, there's no point in wasting time thinking about how much you dislike someone. I used to be very judgmental and angry at people all the time, but they cannot help being ignorant.




That's an ignorant thing to say :smirk: How do you know that for sure?
I've known a great many people who were willfully ignorant. That's the worst kind.
They have every opportunity and then some to learn and people trying to help but they'd rather ignore and be purposefully ignorant.
Yeah I know what you meant.. but seriously and honestly... many people are ignorant by choice and they most definitely CAN help it.
It's a cop out to say every ignorant person can't help it... many can. Especially nowadays what with the internet and all...the world's knowledge is at your fingertips, if you aren't looking at cat pictures or porn all day.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23950122 - 12/22/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I said your theory is crap. Not you. You're comparing killing people in video games to killing people in real life. Sure. It may be fun as hell to kill people in video games but do you think you'd react the same way you do in the games if you killed someone in real life? It might be fun to watch people suffer in video games, movies, etc.. but to witness something like that in real life is traumatizing. It's something you'll never be able to get out of your head. It stays with you.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23950137 - 12/22/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture




Not being able to have random fistfights is too PC? I lol'd


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23950158 - 12/22/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think it's instinct. We don't instinctually enjoy killing. Our instinct is to recoil from death. However we live in a hyperviolent culture. And it's because we are a product of thousands of years of propaganda and glorification of war.

War is how a people obtain and maintain power.
Thats why shooter games are so popular. And why the military is seen as an honorable and even fun thing to alot of people. We have been trained to find it exciting instead of horrific so political powers can use us for their own means.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23950209 - 12/22/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

War is the ultimate sport.

Think about it, animals just run and hide when they are being hunted, they're predictable for the most part, but humans we have the whole world at our disposal, we can get creative af tho when the tables turn and it is our turn to be hunted..


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    #23950254 - 12/22/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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bloodsheen said:

We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture




Not being able to have random fistfights is too PC? I lol'd




Well we still have martial arts

But im still rooting for bringing back gladiatorial combat and duels


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Prozac]
    #23950333 - 12/22/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I said your theory is crap. Not you. You're comparing killing people in video games to killing people in real life. Sure. It may be fun as hell to kill people in video games but do you think you'd react the same way you do in the games if you killed someone in real life? It might be fun to watch people suffer in video games, movies, etc.. but to witness something like that in real life is traumatizing. It's something you'll never be able to get out of your head. It stays with you.



Have you experienced this? Have you experienced true hatred?

My grandfather was a horrible man and he died a horrible, slow, agonizing, painful death. And I'm glad about that every time I think about it. Does the idea of somebody getting pleasure from the pain of a monster bother you? Does suffering not have a moral bent just like everything else?

If while I was taking care of him he didn't have constant care and analysis by professionals, I'd have beaten his fucking ass every day. He took people's homes from them in his youth, including my own. He took sexual favors for rent money. He was a fucking piece of shit and he deserved worse than what he got, which was pretty fucking awful. Technically he died of thirst. Took 13 days to die of natural causes. Thats right, two whole weeks without food or water. Granted he was totally out of his mind by then, but thats what makes it so beautiful. He experienced pure pain and plight, no thoughts of politics or right or wrong. He suffered terribly by the hand of God, and by then then he was too crazy to even understand why. Exactly. What. He. Deserved

And if you think taking joy in the suffering of an old man is sick, you'd be right. But if you were kidnapped, and after years of capture you finally got away, do you think you'd just FORGIVE? If the subject of your suffering was right in front of you, helpless, do you really think you'd be kind to him?

If you do, you're lying to yourself, just as much as I'm lying to myself that I'd be ok brutally murdering my coworker. Life is fucked up and until you've seen the darker parts you're a child among flowers and I have no interest in your bullshit


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    #23950376 - 12/22/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23950390 - 12/22/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Have you experienced this? Have you experienced true hatred?




Quote:

bloodsheen said:until you've seen the darker parts you're a child among flowers




I'm pretty sure I made it somewhat clear that I was speaking from experience.


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bloodsheen said:just as much as I'm lying to myself that I'd be ok brutally murdering my coworker.



Um. Precisely...  :lol:


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    #23950398 - 12/22/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Niffla said:
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We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture




Not being able to have random fistfights is too PC? I lol'd




Well we still have martial arts

But im still rooting for bringing back gladiatorial combat and duels




boxing is my shit homie, to me there's nothing like watching an elite boxer at the highest level of the sport systematically taking apart another highly trained fighter and making the shit look easy



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    #23950401 - 12/22/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I prefer torture, killings gets old fast.




Do you have a dungeon with chains and leather helmets?



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SARAtonin said:
I prefer torture, killings gets old fast.




Do you have a dungeon with chains and leather helmets?



Yes, but that's unrelated.



Oh?
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    #23950414 - 12/22/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Now we just need to do the same thing but with weapons

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    #23950502 - 12/22/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23950790 - 12/23/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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So If I'm so full of crap, why do violent video games outsell every other genre a hundred times over?

We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture, so now we have to kill millions of digital people to get it out of our system. If anyone here actually has an idea other than horror at my idea or just shitting on it, please post it




There's actually a lot of fist fights that end in death/serious injury and to trivialize it is incredibly irresponsible . Why do Violent games outsell? Easy it's simulated violence but it's action and not real. No one sits on Battlefield and kills a computer thinking "oh I bet his wife and kids are home crying their eyes out". It's Completely different from sawing a persons head off and ridiculous to compare the two. I play fps all the time and I'm a Passivist. If I were controlling say an android soldier and my video gaming was killing I wouldn't play them. It's absolutely appalling that you can't see the difference between computer codes and actual human lives.


What's PC about not beating the shit out of each other? If you would've said "we need to accept it's fun to kill" I still wouldn't agree but I'd see your point. And people do accept killing wild animals it's called hunting. Taking a human beings life isn't comparable. If you think war is natural you're partially right but the first wars were due to actual nessicity. Fought in China in 600 bc over salt,without any salt humans will die. That's the dawn of violence and wars. You are diluted and the way you talk is very serial killerish


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23950812 - 12/23/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The impulse for violence is natural, I dont see how RP could be wrong for saying that, he hasnt actually advocated non-vicarious violence


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23950817 - 12/23/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Do you think humans murdering humans is just nature then? I'm confused on your stance here...

(Btw I never said violence wasn't natural I said murdering for fun isn't)


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23950821 - 12/23/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

True, idk its late


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23950828 - 12/23/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I get it ''Tis late indeed :lol:


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: zZZz]
    #23951222 - 12/23/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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War is the ultimate sport.

Think about it, animals just run and hide when they are being hunted, they're predictable for the most part, but humans we have the whole world at our disposal, we can get creative af tho when the tables turn and it is our turn to be hunted..



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23951361 - 12/23/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Fight back with nuclear weapons of course. Take that nature!


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23951370 - 12/23/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No. Absolutely not. :huxleyfacepalm:


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    #23951381 - 12/23/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Try to accept it AFTER you kill a person.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23951555 - 12/23/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Back during my 2003 Iraq deployment in the Army There were times where we would get into gunfights 2-3 times a day.. That shit IS NOT FUN. Having 81mm mortar rounds detonate 15-20 feet away IS NOT FUN. Having to shoot at people IS NOT FUN. Being shot at IS NOT FUN..


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: liloldme]
    #23951590 - 12/23/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

never would have guessed you served.

Thank you for your input.
I have met people, people who join the military, who do think it's fun. But really its just a good way to make use of a sociopath in our society. Not remotely saying that soldiers are sociopaths or need to be, just that they are there.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23951726 - 12/23/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast. The oldest book in the english language (sort of) is fucking brutal, a dude rips a monster's arm off and shit. I work with a guy that I've vividly murdered in my imagination dozens of times, complete with blood spurts and pleas for help.

I think the real problem is people can't just say "Welp, thats fucked up." I haven't physically harmed a human being since I was 14 (well, unless she asked me to :biggrin:). And I hurt people as a kid cause I got picked on, I was just defending myself half the time.

After a while the circle of thoughts just gets boring. We have violent instincts but our brains can overcome. Can't it just be that simple?




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    #23951975 - 12/23/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Op, how many people have you killed?


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23951981 - 12/23/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Damn. Personally I think death is the worst and I wouldn't wish it on a single soul.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23951984 - 12/23/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast. The oldest book in the english language (sort of) is fucking brutal, a dude rips a monster's arm off and shit. I work with a guy that I've vividly murdered in my imagination dozens of times, complete with blood spurts and pleas for help.

I think the real problem is people can't just say "Welp, thats fucked up." I haven't physically harmed a human being since I was 14 (well, unless she asked me to :biggrin:). And I hurt people as a kid cause I got picked on, I was just defending myself half the time.

After a while the circle of thoughts just gets boring. We have violent instincts but our brains can overcome. Can't it just be that simple?





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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23952031 - 12/23/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Life is not a video game.  I knew a guy who had some serious guilt about being cold killing people when he was a Marine.  It's hard to integrate real life serious actions and be a nice guy people believe.

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23952036 - 12/23/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

That sounds crazy

If you like to kill people and enjoy taking life that means you have no empathy. Killing is not fun. I don't fantasize about murdering anyone. You might be a psycho/sociopath if you fantasize about murder.

I'm not gonna like when I was 14 I fantasized about killing this girl in my class named Lily. Lily told this girl I had a crush on that I liked her and she ruined my chances of ever getting to be with her by exposing my love to her prematurely.

I vividly remember having a fantasy about strangling her with cable in the band room and then and slowly draining the life from her. After I was done strangling her I took her clothes off and had sex with her dead body. I fantasized about angrily fucking her pale lifless corpse, making out with her dead body, and then eating her dead pussy. There was an alternative fantasy where I raped her first and then strangled her. I actually think I jerked off to that fanatasy once.

Point is that it was a fucked up fantasy and I'm disgusted with myself for ever having it. I was a psycho angsty emo kid when I was 14, I was very mentally ill and dealing with a lot of problems both mentally and emotional. I was super fucked up, I was in high school and was an angsty emo kid so it's ok for me to have had those thoughts then. But I'm 20 years old now and I've grown a lot since then and would never dream of commuting such a heinous and grotesque act. I have empathy for my fellow man and Woman. Would never kill someone ever, not even an animal.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Acid Jazz]
    #23952157 - 12/23/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

most mass shooters were humiliated at one point
it's not mental illness it's just years and years of impotent rage until one day...


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    #23952460 - 12/23/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

This reminds me of a guy starting a thread about how hes been having trouble getting erections, then everyone just makes fun of how he can't get a boner. You know, even though erectile dysfunction medication is a multi-billion dollar industry. Yet somehow every single person that clicked on that thread has never had trouble getting a boner ever :lol:

Whatever man, if you guys want to just pretend your violent instincts aren't there, cool. You know how many people have beaten the shit out of dozens of people in their life but never even came close to killing anyone? Or how many people that are murderers "was just the nicest guy."

Maybe if people talked about this stuff more they wouldn't feel bad and just shove it down further.




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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23952796 - 12/23/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Op, how many times have you killed someone?


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    #23952853 - 12/23/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would love to kill about 2 people if I could get away with it, but I know I'm not smart enough to get away with it. It is fun to fantasize though....


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    #23953700 - 12/24/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Op can't answer my question, fucking pussy thinks he likes killing people, yet hasn't ever done it.

It's like the asshole i work with(a).

A: Dude, i had an amazing acid trip this morning

Me: Damn, what time you take it?

A: 10 am


Me: And your sober already?

A: Yeah

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 3
    #23954293 - 12/24/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We just need to accept that its fun to kill people




I had to oversee and authorize my mother's euthanasia. I recently butchered a chicken and beat a poisoned mouse to death which lay dying on the doorstep.

Killing is NOT fun. Not in the least.

Consensual spanking is fun. I knew this black guy who got a kick out of me smacking his rather impressive ass, me roleplaying him into a perilous situation and "punishing" him. THAT was fun. Killing isn't.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Prozac]
    #23954367 - 12/24/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I said your theory is crap. Not you. You're comparing killing people in video games to killing people in real life. Sure. It may be fun as hell to kill people in video games but do you think you'd react the same way you do in the games if you killed someone in real life? It might be fun to watch people suffer in video games, movies, etc.. but to witness something like that in real life is traumatizing. It's something you'll never be able to get out of your head. It stays with you.




To be honest, it's not fun to watch people suffer in video games, which is why the best titles tend to be ones that downplay that aspect of violence.
Overwatch is huge as a first person multiplayer shooter, but it is mechanically designed to be more comical and mitigate the actuality of death.  Many characters fight with pseudo-magical weapons, and death is simply a character falling down then reviving after a timer is up.
On the more brutal and violent end of the recent first person shooter spectrum would be Doom, where the targets of the brutality are demons rather than humans.  Smash skulls, severe limbs, eviscerate, rip, and tear -- but the targets are non-human non-animal twisted denizens of Hell.

Games that really relish in suffering of people tend to be more of a niche thing published to try and make controversy dollars. :shrug:

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    #23954422 - 12/24/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Exercise good thinking and you'll see complete transformation from peace of mind, increase in 'luck', attractivenes, ability to deal with inevitable hardships, a glowing outlook which rewards every day, newly found skills and dissolution of the concern of the past and death.

When you've witnessed this, you'll see the egos proposition as a copper penny against the fortunes of gold that the higher mind delivers.

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    #23954643 - 12/24/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Prozac said:
I said your theory is crap. Not you. You're comparing killing people in video games to killing people in real life. Sure. It may be fun as hell to kill people in video games but do you think you'd react the same way you do in the games if you killed someone in real life? It might be fun to watch people suffer in video games, movies, etc.. but to witness something like that in real life is traumatizing. It's something you'll never be able to get out of your head. It stays with you.




To be honest, it's not fun to watch people suffer in video games, which is why the best titles tend to be ones that downplay that aspect of violence.
Overwatch is huge as a first person multiplayer shooter, but it is mechanically designed to be more comical and mitigate the actuality of death.  Many characters fight with pseudo-magical weapons, and death is simply a character falling down then reviving after a timer is up.
On the more brutal and violent end of the recent first person shooter spectrum would be Doom, where the targets of the brutality are demons rather than humans.  Smash skulls, severe limbs, eviscerate, rip, and tear -- but the targets are non-human non-animal twisted denizens of Hell.

Games that really relish in suffering of people tend to be more of a niche thing published to try and make controversy dollars. :shrug:

Do not really follow movies any longer, but would presume similar is true.



Grand Theft Auto is the only proof you need. One of the highest selling franchise of all time and its beyond brutal and violent. However, theres a scene in newest one where you're forced to torture a man in really horrific ways, and they indeed made it seriously not fun. I think they decided they had to push it all the way to the very edge just to prove that the closer to reality it gets the less satisfying it is.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23954649 - 12/24/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

that's deep. metaphorically speaking, topping GTA there'd be a hell of a game there.

if everyone were zombies would it be easier?

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never would have guessed you served.

Thank you for your input.
I have met people, people who join the military, who do think it's fun. But really its just a good way to make use of a sociopath in our society. Not remotely saying that soldiers are sociopaths or need to be, just that they are there.



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23954828 - 12/24/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you fuck some guys girl in your mind you've done it in your heart my son. shame shame shame


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    #23954983 - 12/24/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've beat a grandmas head in on GTA . I've never done that in real life and I imagine it wouldn't be fun.


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Prozac said:
I said your theory is crap. Not you. You're comparing killing people in video games to killing people in real life. Sure. It may be fun as hell to kill people in video games but do you think you'd react the same way you do in the games if you killed someone in real life? It might be fun to watch people suffer in video games, movies, etc.. but to witness something like that in real life is traumatizing. It's something you'll never be able to get out of your head. It stays with you.




To be honest, it's not fun to watch people suffer in video games, which is why the best titles tend to be ones that downplay that aspect of violence.
Overwatch is huge as a first person multiplayer shooter, but it is mechanically designed to be more comical and mitigate the actuality of death.  Many characters fight with pseudo-magical weapons, and death is simply a character falling down then reviving after a timer is up.
On the more brutal and violent end of the recent first person shooter spectrum would be Doom, where the targets of the brutality are demons rather than humans.  Smash skulls, severe limbs, eviscerate, rip, and tear -- but the targets are non-human non-animal twisted denizens of Hell.

Games that really relish in suffering of people tend to be more of a niche thing published to try and make controversy dollars. :shrug:

Do not really follow movies any longer, but would presume similar is true.



Grand Theft Auto is the only proof you need. One of the highest selling franchise of all time and its beyond brutal and violent. However, theres a scene in newest one where you're forced to torture a man in really horrific ways, and they indeed made it seriously not fun. I think they decided they had to push it all the way to the very edge just to prove that the closer to reality it gets the less satisfying it is.




Yeah, GTA is kind of a good example of what I was getting at.
GTA allows players to take a variety of pretty brutal actions, assaulting civilians and the like -- but the representation of it does not really match with how twisted some of it is.
If the player knifes an NPC on the streets of Los Santos, it takes a few stabs then they fall down dead and quiet and glowing money or ammo pops out of them -- it's not like the game has the player staring at a glassy-eyed corpse while rifling through pockets for loot.

Shootouts have flashes of blood, but characters are never really maimed by firearms or explosions or anything.  If a grenade blows up at their feet, they ragdoll a bit from the physics, then flop down with an effectively unscathed corpse.

GTA pushes the envelope in terms of what it allows the player to do, but as you noted when it gets to something like the torture scene where it is a more intimate portrayal of violence it feels unpleasant, and it is not really part of the game many people make a point of replaying.

It allows for some really violent actions against NPCs that are meant to represent innocent people in a world where many games typically only allow the player to target a particularized "bad guy" but the portrayals of violence, outside the torture scene, do generally minimize showing violence as something victims suffer through, or indeed even portray wounds as anything more than red splotches on the body.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Tantrika]
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I personally believe GTA very appropriate addresses that issue. After the torture scene you and your torturee have a long car-ride to the airport, and you have a discussion about torture and what it means and why people do it. Quite fascinating, a really nice followup to a really disturbing mission. In fact having violent tendencies in general is greatly discussed in GTA, which is exactly my point! The characters make awful decisions, but the fact of their violence is never justified, it just is


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