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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: trees] * 1
    #23947829 - 12/22/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bloodsheen have you ever watched real videos of people getting murdered? There's tons of videos of people around the world getting their heads hacked / ripped off with machetes and chain saws, people crying and bleeding, pleading to die. It's pretty horrible imo and is not fun at all. Killing often doesnt go smoothly like you might imagine it, and I'm sure the feeling and vibrations that you sense when cutting through human flesh, connective tissues and bone is spooky enough to make your skin crawl. Then you have a lifeless body to deal with. Im really surprised to see how many people imagine that to be fun.




Yeah true, anybody who watches that shit for fun is not normal.

Blood and guts don't disgust me, but the writhing agony of seeing somebody in such immense pain being tortured is what really bothers me, about those kind of movies.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23947836 - 12/22/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast. The oldest book in the english language (sort of) is fucking brutal, a dude rips a monster's arm off and shit. I work with a guy that I've vividly murdered in my imagination dozens of times, complete with blood spurts and pleas for help.

I think the real problem is people can't just say "Welp, thats fucked up." I haven't physically harmed a human being since I was 14 (well, unless she asked me to :biggrin:). And I hurt people as a kid cause I got picked on, I was just defending myself half the time.

After a while the circle of thoughts just gets boring. We have violent instincts but our brains can overcome. Can't it just be that simple?




Well unless youve actually killed someone, you wouldnt know and your theory is bupkis.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: SARAtonin]
    #23948060 - 12/22/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I prefer torture, killings gets old fast.




:shitmypants:

Ive had my fair share of violent fantasies towards murdering cops. Fuckin hate cops.

But i dont like gory violence. Blood makes me sick to the stomach. When bloody gory happens in a movie, i close my eyes or shield them with my hand.

My violent murder fantasies of cops are non-gory. I want to blow up a cop car with a cop in it with a rocket launcher or a gernade or a missle.

Seeing all the gore would make me sick but seeing the carnage of a cop car with a murderous cop inside blow to bits does sound appealing.

But since im not actually a murderer and i dont wanna be put in prison or a body bag, i dont indulge in my violent cop fantasies.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23948084 - 12/22/16 04:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Reported

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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23948103 - 12/22/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23948108 - 12/22/16 04:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Sin crime detected in quadrant 26

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Repent your impure thoughts in the name of Ronald Reagan our Lord and Slaver


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: trees]
    #23948157 - 12/22/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Undercovers have been spotted :takingnotes:

Clever screen names. I would have never thought it was you guys.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 2
    #23948425 - 12/22/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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As someone whos spent thousands of hours of his life shooting shit in video games but only shooting a gun IRL for a total of about three hours, I think we just need to accept that killing shit vicariously is a blast.




Killing shit in a video game isn't killing shit. It's a video game.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23948469 - 12/22/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Ive had my fair share of violent fantasies towards murdering cops. Fuckin hate cops.

But i dont like gory violence. Blood makes me sick to the stomach.




I made the mistake of recently clicking on a video clip that showed, in all its full graphic glory, a cartel torturing. They flayed the poor bastard's face off. Took the skin right off his face. To the point where you were basically looking at a skull. His arms were severed at the elbow. Legs severed at the knees.

He was still alive. You could still hear audible noises coming from him. His arms, or shall I say it, nubs, were still flailing.

From all accounts, this is/was one of the most graphic videos of its kind on the internet.

I got a pretty strong stomach. But even this shit got to me, man. I was borderline nauseous for a couple of hours after it and it will haunt me forever -- I'll never get that image out of my head. Ever.

And by the way, I'm not into gore shit. I never watch gore videos. Well not until this time, anyway. It's just somebody posted it at another forum, a regular forum mind you (not some gore board), and curiosity got the best of me. Unfortunately.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Niffla]
    #23948552 - 12/22/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

if you face gets sloughed off to the bone, and you're still alive, and no narcotics to kill the pain?

yeah, yum, that just makes me body feel so good to imagine. :uhoh:

TRAITOC-MURDERERS, GOVERNMENT-DOCUMENTS,....AHHHAHHH

you don't want that shit.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: trees]
    #23949656 - 12/22/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bloodsheen have you ever watched real videos of people getting murdered? There's tons of videos of people around the world getting their heads hacked / ripped off with machetes and chain saws, people crying and bleeding, pleading to die. It's pretty horrible imo and is not fun at all. Killing often doesnt go smoothly like you might imagine it, and I'm sure the feeling and vibrations that you sense when cutting through human flesh, connective tissues and bone is spooky enough to make your skin crawl. Then you have a lifeless body to deal with. Im really surprised to see how many people imagine that to be fun.



Thats exactly what I'm saying, its all vicarious. I can tell my brain all of those things you said, how horrible it is to actually do it. But my animal brain doesn't fucking care, its territory has been invaded and must be defended. So I express my anger in as healthy of a way as possible, if I just shoved it down and pretended it wasn't there, THEN it'd be a problem

I also realized a lot of my anger comes from a high-stress environment, I'm currently looking for a more chill job so I don't get into such tension-filled scenarios


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23949715 - 12/22/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

found some killswitch engage for you to rock out to OP



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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: mt cleverest] * 4
    #23949772 - 12/22/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I completely disagree. Violence in a video game and violence in real life are completely and utterly different and I don't think it is at all fair to compare killing characters in a video game to anyone in real life, nor can you even begin to judge your reaction to violence in real life unless and until you experience it.


Furthermore, if you're talking about human nature, yes, it is in our nature as a species to be violent but it is also in our nature as much if not more(perhaps being the one thing that has kept us from bombing ourselves into oblivion thus far) to be altruistic. There is a jarring(to some, I think it makes complete sense) theory that altruism is an inherently selfish biological trait that benefits the altruist on at least an evolutionary scale if not personally.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #23949865 - 12/22/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Thats some fucked up shit.

When i was young, i saw some "Faces of Death" videos. My friend was all into them. They werent that bad, some were just fake or silly, but some were real and quite distrubing.

Its just not for me. Too fucked up to watch.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23950067 - 12/22/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Unless you gunned down an entire crowd of real life people in those three hours I'd say your theory is crap.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Prozac]
    #23950078 - 12/22/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So If I'm so full of crap, why do violent video games outsell every other genre a hundred times over?

We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture, so now we have to kill millions of digital people to get it out of our system. If anyone here actually has an idea other than horror at my idea or just shitting on it, please post it


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: Bluntlock]
    #23950101 - 12/22/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Leave the hate behind man, there's no point in wasting time thinking about how much you dislike someone. I used to be very judgmental and angry at people all the time, but they cannot help being ignorant.




That's an ignorant thing to say :smirk: How do you know that for sure?
I've known a great many people who were willfully ignorant. That's the worst kind.
They have every opportunity and then some to learn and people trying to help but they'd rather ignore and be purposefully ignorant.
Yeah I know what you meant.. but seriously and honestly... many people are ignorant by choice and they most definitely CAN help it.
It's a cop out to say every ignorant person can't help it... many can. Especially nowadays what with the internet and all...the world's knowledge is at your fingertips, if you aren't looking at cat pictures or porn all day.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23950122 - 12/22/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I said your theory is crap. Not you. You're comparing killing people in video games to killing people in real life. Sure. It may be fun as hell to kill people in video games but do you think you'd react the same way you do in the games if you killed someone in real life? It might be fun to watch people suffer in video games, movies, etc.. but to witness something like that in real life is traumatizing. It's something you'll never be able to get out of your head. It stays with you.


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #23950137 - 12/22/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We aren't allowed to have random fistfights anymore thanks to PC culture




Not being able to have random fistfights is too PC? I lol'd


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Re: We just need to accept that its fun to kill people [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23950158 - 12/22/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think it's instinct. We don't instinctually enjoy killing. Our instinct is to recoil from death. However we live in a hyperviolent culture. And it's because we are a product of thousands of years of propaganda and glorification of war.

War is how a people obtain and maintain power.
Thats why shooter games are so popular. And why the military is seen as an honorable and even fun thing to alot of people. We have been trained to find it exciting instead of horrific so political powers can use us for their own means.


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