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beachbum10
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My first attempt at WBS bulk success!
#23947088 - 12/21/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I've been growing with brf cakes for a few years now. I've been wanting to try WBS and trays for a long time now. Finally took the plunge and gave it a try. For starters I just used a multispore syringe. I'm super happy with the results for my first go at it. Here's some pictures of the results. These are Nepal chitwans.


Also while I was jumping into something new I decided to give agar a try. Here is a pic of the first dish I put a drop a spores on.

Since this dish came out good. I've done about 29 more. All experimenting with drops of spores, samples from growing shrooms, picking pins off sub and transfers from other dishes. All of which have done excellent! Some looking way better than this first one. None have come out contaminated. Except for one. So I'm super stoked about this. Can't wait to see the results of the agar with WBS and bulk.
I also have a mono tub with albino A+ absolutely covered in pins. My first time with mono tub experience as well. I'll be sure to share pictures of it too when they get bigger.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947107 - 12/21/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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A pic after harvested
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947114 - 12/21/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You did it bro. You did it.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947118 - 12/21/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice!
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Dactylium]
#23947126 - 12/21/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947135 - 12/21/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Congrats brotherin
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beachbum10
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Dactylium]
#23947136 - 12/21/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks guys!
Here's a pic of the albino tub anyways. Excuse my shitty liner job. I had it taped to the sides. Then quickly realized it was causing water condensation to drip down onto the sub and pool. I knew that wasn't good. I just pulled the tape from the sides so it could drip under the liner. Next time I will know better.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947139 - 12/21/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My goodness that's a big pinset. I hope you're bottom watering that.
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beachbum10
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Dactylium]
#23947142 - 12/21/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No I am not. I honestly have no idea what bottom watering is?
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Dactylium]
#23947145 - 12/21/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice job dude! cant wait to see the mono.
fyi. myc can eat tin trays.
good job bro. good job.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947151 - 12/21/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You squirt a little water between the liner and the substrate on all four sides. Something like 10ml a side for tubs around 60qts. It helps support a big pinset cuz they're gonna suck a looot of water as they grow.
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beachbum10
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Dactylium]
#23947167 - 12/21/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh ok. Makes sense. I will give that a try! Thanks for tip
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23947317 - 12/21/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is incredible.
What's the yellow tape for?? If your trying to tape the liner to the walls you should know it's actually better to have the liner not touch the walls so that when condensation rolls down the sides of the tub it can collect between the tub and the liner instead of pooling on top of the sub.
Amazing job, congrats!
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Look like a 6 zip tub my friend! Congrats!
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beachbum10
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Yeah I mentioned the tape up above. Found out first hand about the water pooling really quick. Only took a few days to realize that. In fact I got tired of looking at it and trimmed it off tonight. Then bottom watered it some. I'll post more pics as they get bigger.
Also here is a pic of what I had that Nepal tray in. Miniature green house. I think I've seen on here people call them Martha's? I have other trays in the green house. One Ecuador and some blue meanie's. I like the green house but I'm having a problem keeping the humidity up. I have two trays full of perlite on the bottom and a cool mist on the bottom shelf. I keep having to heavily mist the trays. I noticed them brushing blue from not enough humidity and drying out.
But honestly I'm sold on the mono tub. Don't have to mess with a humidifier and all that. So once these trays finish. I think I'm just gonna buy more tubs and ditch the green house.

The nepal tray is on far bottom right. It had already been harvested when I took this picture. The one with biggest pins now is ecuador/Nepal mix. I had two left over jars not enough to make a tray each so I just mixed them.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23948266 - 12/22/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I think the mono tub is where its at. You can tinker more with the martha though.
It's just to easy to make a few mono's set a timer and throw in some pollyfill. Also you can stack the shit out of them!
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23948288 - 12/22/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Holy pinset!nice job . They albinos like that sub whatever it is.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Pinpapa]
#23948293 - 12/22/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice work. How much more work did you find WBS vs BRF, would you say the payout worth the extra effort?
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: stickiestace]
#23948495 - 12/22/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I'm loving the mono tub so far. I think if I can get the humidity issue addressed with the Martha I would probably keep messing with it some. I've read some people have to use two humidifiers to get it to that point. One cool mist and one ultrasonic. I checked my local stores and couldn't find an ultrasonic though. I may have to order one off the web. Probably doesn't help that it's winter cold and air is dry af right now.
The substrate I used in the tub and trays is just coco coir and vermiculite. Did the whole bucket and boiling water thing. Was super easy.
As for prepping the WBS vs BRF wasn't to bad. The WBS did take a Lil more time due to having to let it soak. Making the lids for the quart jars wasn't too bad. I just made them ahead of time while the birdseed was soaking. Then simmered and pressure cooked. As for brf I can make and just throw straight into the pressure cooker.
But I will say I can definitely can tell it's waaaay worth the Lil bit of extra prep time. The quality and size of the shrooms look better. Bigger, thicker, more solid stems and better looking caps. Just better quality looking shroom in general. I haven't had a chance to eat any yet to compare potency. Plus I'm tired of all the misting,fanning and dunking that comes with the brf cakes. Seems to be time consuming doing that multiple times a day everyday. I've been running two sgfc's full of cakes stacked double and triple high with foil in between.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23948506 - 12/22/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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try the no simmer wbs method. talk about easy... and in terms of prep.
its soaked 24hrs. and drained 20min so in my mind my prep time is 20min.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: mushboy]
#23948528 - 12/22/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You killed it beachbum10 
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#23948568 - 12/22/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will have to try that. I probably only soaked mine for 12-14 hours. Over night basically.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23948610 - 12/22/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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its detailed in spitballs basics series.
rinse wbs like normal. skim off shit like normal. add optional gypsum to water. cover with hot tap. soak 24hrs.
i do large bacthes. i cant imagine simmering 40-80lbs of grain in 1 day. i got bitches to slap and hoes to pimp. no time to simmer.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: mushboy]
#23948677 - 12/22/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lmao! Awesome. Damn thats alot of grain. I did 20lbs this last go round. About 30 some quart jars. And they're colonizing right now. I didn't like the simmering part anyways I stirred it the whole time basically lol. Out of fear of the seeds bursting or burning on the bottom.
The ones I have colonizing now are kinda going slow. I think I may have gotten the moisture content a bit on the dry side. Haven't quite figured out that perfect moisture content yet. The first batch I did were a bit more on the wet side and grew really fast.
Edited by beachbum10 (12/22/16 10:33 AM)
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23948805 - 12/22/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some great AA+ pins mang
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23948942 - 12/22/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats a crazy pinset dude any tips for a newbie I'm just about to start my first ever mono tub tonight. I have 4 jars of colonized wild bird seed ready to go but I'm apprehensive that I will do something wrong and ruin it
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beachbum10
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Thanks for the positive feedback everyone 
Here is a picture of it tonight

I feel like a newbie myself lol. This is my first mono tub. But I did use 6 jars of wbs. This is a 60+ quart tub. I just followed the coir tek. Mixed in the WBS and put a casing layer on top of that. If you only have 4 jars ready to go. I'm sure that will work. Just gotta decide on what ratio your gonna go with and figure out how much substrate to add.
Edited by beachbum10 (12/22/16 06:35 PM)
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23949857 - 12/22/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23949936 - 12/22/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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beachbum10 said: Thanks for the positive feedback everyone 
Here is a picture of it tonight

I feel like a newbie myself lol. This is my first mono tub. But I did use 6 jars of wbs. This is a 60+ quart tub. I just followed the coir tek. Mixed in the WBS and put a casing layer on top of that. If you only have 4 jars ready to go. I'm sure that will work. Just gotta decide on what ratio your gonna go with and figure out how much substrate to add.
Thats a very nice pinset btw i found that trash bags didnt work that well for me as liners. So i started using the rolls of painters plastic. I cut it so it goes all the way up the walls, pour in my substrate, level it out, then cut it above the substrate. The liner is suppose to stick to the mycelium as it grows to prevent a microclimate between the substrate and wall where side pins form. It works very well for me, i never get side pins.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Kalsticky]
#23950257 - 12/22/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome. I'll take that into consideration. Hope to have multiple tubs soon. I'll have to try that out.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23950851 - 12/23/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My ecuador tray was ready to harvest this morning here's some pics


And while I was at it snapped a updated pic of the A+ tub
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23950862 - 12/23/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Another pic after harvest. These are my biggest fruit I have grown to date. The one on far right is a monster. I will be taking some clones of these beauties. I didn't harvest the whole tray. There were some smaller clusters that still had some growing to do.
Edited by beachbum10 (12/23/16 05:06 AM)
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23950884 - 12/23/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: enlightenment]
#23950892 - 12/23/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow man that is some impressive shit, good for you! I will most definitely be doing WBS after all of my cakes are toast. You may have even just convinced me to also give agar a go. You get 5 mushies my friend!
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Go for it! It's definitely worth it. I was hesitant about wbs and agar myself. But it not that hard really after reading up on how to do it. I even poured my own plates. Glad I could inspire someone to to take the same dive I did.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23951006 - 12/23/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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beachbum10 said:
And while I was at it snapped a updated pic of the A+ tub

wow. just beautiful. 
been absorbing info in this forum for a couple weeks and just had to say how impressive and inspiring that looks to an utter grownoob.
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Re: thanks man [Re: relic]
#23951136 - 12/23/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks fpr the tips man. I plucked up the balls and did it this morning. I used half a brick of coir with my spawn and it looked about 60% coir 40% spawn, so i hope that will make it colonize before the contams have a chance to get ir w
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Good luck and may your grow be fruitful 
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so awesome! I am soaking some WBS right now. Gonna be my first go at wbs too!
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beachbum10
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Getting closer. 

Also. This is a new one for me. I've never seen this happen before. A shroom growing from a shroom. This is on a BRF cake and is Thai Lipa Yai.

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beachbum10 said: Getting closer. 

Wow great work man, that tub looks amazing! Be sure to throw them in the dehydrator quickly, don't want to waste any magic 
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beachbum10 said: Also. This is a new one for me. I've never seen this happen before. A shroom growing from a shroom. This is on a BRF cake and is Thai Lipa Yai.


Hahaha that's a crazy mutant right there, can't say I've seen that before myself. Try taking a clone and see what happens
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23953280 - 12/24/16 02:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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beachbum10 said: Thanks guys!
Here's a pic of the albino tub anyways. Excuse my shitty liner job. I had it taped to the sides. Then quickly realized it was causing water condensation to drip down onto the sub and pool. I knew that wasn't good. I just pulled the tape from the sides so it could drip under the liner. Next time I will know better.

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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Ziran]
#23954106 - 12/24/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think they're pretty much ready. I normally pick my shrooms at this point. Veils are still attached. A couple have started to break.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23954534 - 12/24/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep, plug in the dehydrator. You have an amazing flush there my friend
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#23954584 - 12/24/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you!
So here are the final results. Not exactly sure if I went about picking them right being my first mono tub. I know previously on my brf cakes I twisted them off. I personally don't like leaving any mushroom material behind. I would think it could decay and cause contamination. But if I'm wrong someone please let me know lol. Didn't seem to tear up the substrate too bad.



Also how do I go about rehydration the sub for the 2nd flush? I misted it a bit for now. But not too heavily. Just a light misting till I could figure out how to properly hydrate it.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: enlightenment]
#23954588 - 12/24/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Tmethyl]
#23954686 - 12/24/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good thing I have a 2nd dehydrator. I've never had to fill them up this full before. Hell I've never filled this one full like this before. My biggest harvest to date. 
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
#23957757 - 12/26/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My blue meanie trays are putting off some monsters. Biggest fruit I've produced so far, This one weighing in over 52 grams wet.

Edited by beachbum10 (12/26/16 07:51 AM)
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: beachbum10]
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23957950 - 12/26/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice job dude.
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Re: My first attempt at WBS bulk success! [Re: mushboy]
#23959088 - 12/26/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Noice
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