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Jenjens
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The cause of geometric patterns
#23947003 - 12/21/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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This has most likely been asked before, but when taking psychedelics, what actually causes the geometric patterns? Its a huge curiosity of mine.
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Tmethyl
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: Jenjens]
#23947034 - 12/21/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wish I knew, I see actual math equations in a language I'm not familiar with on LSD, and on mushrooms it's more geometric.
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Filterhead462
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: Tmethyl]
#23947416 - 12/21/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The interal frame work of the mind
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Imsocoolboutmyself
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Filterhead462 said: The interal frame work of the mind
I like the above quote here.
It is everything that makes you you, but also that which makes you a part of what is not you at all. During periods of such synesthesia you see some amount of the tapestry that surrounds you. At higher doses it consumes you.
It is Fucking magic. A secret. How deep that shit goes is a joke that humans will forever toil with. We will never understand the lengths of the human mind. It is capable of things unseen by virtually everyone. At the very least it is encouraging you to be your own person with an unlimited ability to agrue with yourself, as if to be a god within your body.
Edited by Imsocoolboutmyself (12/21/16 09:52 PM)
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: Jenjens]
#23948168 - 12/22/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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it is trippy to think our brains generate the same patterns a computer can, like fractals.
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Imsocoolboutmyself said:
It is Fucking magic. A secret. How deep that shit goes is a joke that humans will forever toil with. We will never understand the lengths of the human mind. It is capable of things unseen by virtually everyone. At the very least it is encouraging you to be your own person with an unlimited ability to agrue with yourself, as if to be a god within your body.
Brilliant mate, just brilliant
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: Tmethyl]
#23950476 - 12/22/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tmethyl said: I wish I knew, I see actual math equations in a language I'm not familiar with on LSD, and on mushrooms it's more geometric.
I have seen writing while tripping which didn't look like any writing I am familiar with, but I somehow felt like I knew what it was, strange.
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maxpassin
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MikeTesserect said: it is trippy to think our brains generate the same patterns a computer can, like fractals.
I always thought of it as the other way around. Who knows what computers will be able to do once quantum computing becomes more established and mainstream..
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: Jenjens]
#23950711 - 12/23/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Literally no one knows.
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: nooneman]
#23950806 - 12/23/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My guess is that psychedelics put the part of our brain responsible for processing and making sense of what we see into overdrive. Seeing isn't really a passive process whereby our eyes just work like a camera to show us the world around us. Our brains actively create what we see by combining input from our eyes with a mathematical framwork of geometric forms and patterns. This allows us to quickly distinguish objects and patterns from the visual field. When we trip, the visual cortex becomes overexcited and the underlying visual achitecture is amplified to the point that geometric forms spontaneously appear and overlay our vision.
This is probably vastly oversimplified or wrong so take it with a pinch of salt.
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: nooneman]
#23950810 - 12/23/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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nooneman said: Literally no one knows.
i bet it has something to do with the visual cortex in the back of our brain connecting and visualizing with memories/facts we have from school. A hallucination made from past memories if u will.
I mean all of us took geometry in school right? It would be very werid thou if indigenous forest people saw gemometric shapes too even thou they never see them in the wild.
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23950887 - 12/23/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: It would be very werid thou if indigenous forest people saw gemometric shapes too even thou they never see them in the wild.
Have you ever looked at ancient mayan, Aztec, or any ancient culture art and clothing? They did, bro. You can find patterns of shapes that you see on psychedelics through out all of their artwork. Even Buddhist/Hindu mandelas are just the flowers that you see at the end of the tunnel on dmt.
Here's a few examples:
Aztec


Mayan

African

Hindu Mandala

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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: Kinshino]
#23950909 - 12/23/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shit, i guess youre totally right.
What if all humans have "implanted" knowledge put there by God?
Too far out?
perhaps it is...
I know the human brain is excellent at finding patterns in things and seeing shapes and designs is how the visual perception of humans works.
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23950991 - 12/23/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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these sacred geometric patterns are all around us and through out nature. its math.
Sacred Geometry in Nature and Life Fibonacci, the Golden Mean and Nature
The Fibonacci sequence: ’1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55…’ is an infinite sequence, in which any number can be found by adding the previous two numbers in the sequence. For example, the next number in the sequence would be 34+55= 89.
There are many fascinating mathematical properties of the Fibonacci sequence. For example, no two consecutive numbers in the series have any common factors, 144 which is the twelfth number is the only square number in the entire sequence and the sum of any ten consecutive numbers is always divisible by eleven.
More interestingly, Every 3rd Fibonacci number is divisible by 2 Every 4th Fibonacci number is divisible by 3 Every 5th Fibonacci number is divisible by 5 Every 6th Fibonacci number is divisible by 8 Every 7th Fibonacci number is divisible by 13 Every 8th Fibonacci number is divisible by 21 The Golden Mean
If you divide a number from the sequence by the previous number, you get the Golden Mean. For example, 55:34= 1.618. This is the perfect harmonic ratio, and can be seen anywhere in the growth spirals of pinecones, flower petals and seeds and the branching pattern of trees. And the bigger the numbers, the more perfect/accurate the ratio. But it will never get to 100% perfect, its an infinite number. Its a spiral.





from atoms to galaxy's, humans to insects, plants to animals, we are products of this equation and psychedelics bring this into the light. for we are all intertwined and connected.
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Re: The cause of geometric patterns [Re: SpaceDawg]
#23951512 - 12/23/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Beautifully explained! Never quite understood the fibonacci sequence until now.. thank you.
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