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Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business
    #23946196 - 12/21/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-21/lacing-dog-treats-with-cannabis-is-big-business


Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business
These treats are raising millions and helping Fido weather thunderstorms.
by Polly Mosendz
December 21, 2016, 5:00 AM EST




Illustration: Steph Davidson

Even for a puppy, Kat Donatello's black lab, Austin, was hyperactive. After experimenting with natural supplements on her older dog, Brady, Donatello slipped the puppy a special biscuit. "It just kind of took the edge off of him," she recalled. 

The treat contained Cannabidiol, better known as CBD, a chemical compound extracted from the marijuana plant.

The CBD supplements were expensive, and options for pet treats were limited, Donatello said. "So I started spending my winters baking dog biscuits." She tinkered with the recipe before launching her CBD-laced biscuit company, Austin + Kat, earlier this year.

Along with Therabis and Treatibles, Austin + Kat is one of several Cannabidiol-for-dogs businesses that have popped up in the last two years, a time period during which CBD pet product sales nationwide doubled, according to data kept by cannabis industry analytics firm MJ Freeway. It's the newest trend in America's booming half-billion dollar animal supplements market, which is expected to grow by more than $150 million in the next four years.

CBD is one of over 80 active cannabinoid chemicals in marijuana, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Unlike tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), CBD doesn't create a euphoric sensation. In other words, these biscuits won't get your dog high. But there's some debate as to what effect the compound has on our furry friends and whether they should be consuming it at all.

Academic research about CBD's affect on animals is nearly nonexistent, and the Food and Drug Administration has not approved marijuana use in animals. Despite this, some veterinarians recommend their use, and producers say pet stores are increasingly beginning to carry CBD treats. Treatibles is even in talks to be sold at a big box pet store, though an executive wouldn't reveal which one, as the deal is still pending.

Veterinarians views on the supplement vary. When asked about the effectiveness of CBD in dogs, Dr. Robert Goggs said there is "virtually no evidence in the veterinary literature on this." By contrast, Dr. Robert Silver and Dr. Gary Richter, both vets, recently hosted a course on the cannabis-dedicated learning website Green Flower entitled the "Cannabis for Pets Masterclass."

Contacted by phone, Richter conceded that scholarly literature is lacking. "A lot of what we're using is extrapolated data from humans, as well as just real world experience on what works," he explained. If it works for humans, he argued, it could work for dogs.

In lieu of research, the CBD-for-dogs industry cites supportive veterinarians and customer testimonials as evidence of the products' effectiveness. On Treatibles' website, an interview with the owner of mixed-breed pup Shelby shows how the dog, plagued with anxiety and fear, was able to settle down after eating a laced treat.

Human studies have linked CBD to anti-seizure, anti-inflammatory, and anti-anxiety effects. In findings presented to the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control in June of last year, Nora D. Volkow, the director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, said CBD could potentially aid those suffering from Alzheimer's, stroke, multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson's. Despite the largely positive feedback in Volkow's presentation, she warned that additional research on CBD is necessary. The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agrees and hopes to review further scientific studies on CBD.

CBD is often purchased online, which is technically a violation of federal law, according to DEA spokesman Russell Baer. "Extracts or derivatives from the cannabis plant are Schedule I controlled substances—just like the plant itself," Baer said in an e-mailed statement. "There is widespread illegal distribution of purported CBD products—regardless if they are derived from the marijuana plant or hemp plant," he added.

Understandably, the DEA's attention is not on CBD at a time when the nation faces an opioid crisis, and sterilized cannabis seeds can be legally used in animal feed mixture. (When asked about the legality of the business, Therabis called it a "complex situation." Austin + Kat's Donatello expressed frustration with the DEA's position in light of the federal Controlled Substances Act and her ability to purchase CBD products at Walmart.com. Treatibles did not reply to a request for comment.)

There's also the matter of ethics. Humans can verbally express discomfort when trying a new treatment. Man's best friend cannot.

“If the proper administration of marijuana can truly relieve dogs' pain, then they should be given the same consideration that humans in pain are given, with regular doses to help reduce their misery," said Daphna Nachminovitch, senior vice president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. "But it's an entirely different matter to amuse oneself by getting the cat drunk or the dog high.”

While the researchers debate what, exactly, CBD can do for Fido, investors are excited by its increasing popularity, which has been buoyed by the legalization of cannabis (for humans) and increased dialogue about the medicinal properties of marijuana.

Treatibles founder Julianna Carella has seen sales explode "like wildfire" over the past two years. Therabis has experience equally explosive growth in its first year of business; since February, the company has seen revenue quadruple, and sales have grown 30 percent month-over-month, according to Joe Hodas, chief marketing officer of the treat brand's parent company.

Troy Dayton, co-founder of the Arcview Group, an Oakland, Calif.-based investment firm, was a skeptic before he saw the sales numbers. "If humans are noticing in droves all the different ways where cannabis products can have utility for them, then surely there will be a massive application [for animals,]" he said.

Over the last two years, Arcview has been involved in fundraising efforts for two CBD pet-product companies. Dayton anticipates that additional capital will follow, particularly from investors leery of getting into the recreational cannabis market, which is legally murky. "There's a lot of opportunity" in the CBD market, Dayton said. 

"I'm not surprised at all that the space is growing," Carella said. "There's so many pet owners that would do just about anything to relieve their animals suffering."


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23946485 - 12/21/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I gave my last dog CBD tincture for awhile when she was getting old and sore, it along with kratom and her prescribed anti inflammatory helped her keep going for weeks to months past when we thought we had to put her down. For awhile she could hardly even go outside and stand on her own to go to the bathroom... With the CBD and kratom I actually was able to walk her for weeks, some days it was still rough on her others she did great.

Eventually it was still too much for her even with all the meds so we had to put her down. The CBD was super expensive and had a more subtle effect but it definitely helped her relax and feel better, the kratom worked wonders though. I would mix 1-2g in peatut butter 2x daily and give it to her and it helped her deal with her pain and actually relax.

I have read kratom has anti inflammatory properties which I think is part of why she was able to keep on walking for so long, the anti inflammatory pills helped but the kratom made the biggest difference by far. We had xanax precribed for her as well as pain meds which we gave her but I was worried about them making things worse in the long run which is why I tried kratom.

People often look down on giving dogs any drugs but some animals like getting stoned and at the very least they can benefit from the medicinal effects.

My last dog couldn't even lay down comfortably a lot of the time but after a bit of kratom she would sleep like a baby :heart: RIP...


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23947576 - 12/21/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Gif in the op is what the next headline will be.

DOG ON POT BITES MAN!!!!


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #23948267 - 12/22/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

when i lived in california my girlfriend madrone of our neighbors low dose dog treats with trim from a high cbd strain for and old dying dog with arthritis and other problems that caused it constant pain. it didn't live much longer after she met it but the owner said the treats really helped and we ended up giving the several batches before the dog died. we also wested the on our dogs just to make sure the dose wasn't too high or anything (the dog we tested it on had gotten into a quarter ounce of hash oil in the past which got his super stoned for a couple days but other than that was harmless so ts fair to say his body can handle cannabonids fairly well. he just fell asleep from those tho. we saved some for the occasional long car ride or when they were getting too riled up.

the key seems to be finding the proper dosage. the right mount seems to mellow them out and alleviate pain, make movement easier and stimulate appitetite and be overall beneficial where too much can be a scary experience for the owner and I'm sure the dog as well. when my pit got into all the hash oil he slept so deeply for like 12 hours on the couch that shaking and yelling at him him wouldn't wake him up or really move or do anything and he was a really excitable young dog at this point so that was really scary. then he puked shit and pissed all over himself and the couch he was sleeping on without really getting up. once he could get up on his feet which was after almost a day he couldn't stand straight and not for more than a minute or two. he was all wobbly and off balance and shaking. thank god i knew what he ate, if i didn't know it was a shit load of cannabinoids he was fucked up on i would have been scared shitless that he was poisoned and dying and i was like 12 hours away and my buddy watching him didn't even have a car to get him to the closest vet which was like an hour away.


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: musiclover420]
    #23948837 - 12/22/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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musiclover420 said:
I gave my last dog CBD tincture for awhile when she was getting old and sore, it along with kratom and her prescribed anti inflammatory helped her keep going for weeks to months past when we thought we had to put her down. For awhile she could hardly even go outside and stand on her own to go to the bathroom... With the CBD and kratom I actually was able to walk her for weeks, some days it was still rough on her others she did great.

Eventually it was still too much for her even with all the meds so we had to put her down. The CBD was super expensive and had a more subtle effect but it definitely helped her relax and feel better, the kratom worked wonders though. I would mix 1-2g in peatut butter 2x daily and give it to her and it helped her deal with her pain and actually relax.

I have read kratom has anti inflammatory properties which I think is part of why she was able to keep on walking for so long, the anti inflammatory pills helped but the kratom made the biggest difference by far. We had xanax precribed for her as well as pain meds which we gave her but I was worried about them making things worse in the long run which is why I tried kratom.

People often look down on giving dogs any drugs but some animals like getting stoned and at the very least they can benefit from the medicinal effects.

My last dog couldn't even lay down comfortably a lot of the time but after a bit of kratom she would sleep like a baby :heart: RIP...




How much did the dog you fed kratom weigh? I have a bullmastiff whose hips are trashed (bullmastiffs have a poor design when it comes to stability) and can barely go up and down stairs.

She can go down them sometimes, but sometimes she gets stuck halfway down and just cries and wimpers. Going up she has no problem.

If you have a dog treat at the opposite end though it doesn't matter, she'll shoot right across them like it never was a problem:rofl:

But I'm thinking she weighs 80-90 lbs, so i might try to feed her 4-5 grams? I'll have red vein (if that really makes much a difference [ime it's a marginal difference barely worth mentioning]).

We can't walk her more then a couple hundred feet before she is to sore to move at all, I'm thinking maybe take her around the block a couple times so i don't push her that far.

I'll have to wait and see what other meds she has, but I'm pretty sure they won't interfere at all.


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23949241 - 12/22/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My dog was a pretty big wolf/ white shepherd hybrid and weighed probably 60-80 pounds or so. I was also using the most sedating and painkillimg kratom I have come across. It was some red horned and literally 2g would give me opiate sickness sometimes.

I would recommend starting low I'd you try it as there is little to no info on kratom for dogs. I was giving it to my dog daily too and she was reallllly old so smaller doses help it stay effective longer IMO.

We have 2 steps in a narrow hallway here and my old dog would get stuck going up or down them as her hips were very sore. The kratom would help her get up and down them though. I feel like it helped her inflammation as well as her pain.

Anyways I hope it helps, don't push her but more regular walks + kratom gave my dog a second wind for awhile and she was around 15 years old and very frail. I was very thankful to have extra time to walk her and give her treats.

Also my dog didn't like eating kratom so I had to mix it up really well with non sweetened peanut butter and fees it to her which she liked. I read you can mix a big batch and freeze them but I never tried.

CBD helped too but it is so expensive for the pure stuff with little to no THC...


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: musiclover420]
    #23958524 - 12/26/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder how many people actually believe it's for their dog's anxiety and not simply to appease the human so they don't have to hear it yap.

If it's obvious pain, do it up.

Drugging the animals to shut them up is a different game though.
There's no way in hell anyone can tell if it helps the animals' anxiety.
It might just fuck them up too much to act anxious and we'd never be able to tell.

If that's how we're doing things now I'll just get some cheap vodka. It'll go much further for the money.
:wink:

EDIT: I hate how this says you reply to someone specifically when you didn't.
I posted in the bottom. I did not click reply to anyone. This wasn't meant to single anyone out, just general sarcasm.


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: OfTheVoid46] * 1
    #23958556 - 12/26/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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There's no way in hell anyone can tell if it helps the animals' anxiety.




This is just not true man. My old dog had a very traumatic 4th of july one year and would freak out when she heard fireworks after.

So every 4th I would play loud music to mask the fireworks and she wouldn't notice as much but still would get really nervous sometimes.

We had xanax prescribed for her we would occasionally give her and it definitely took the edge off. I didn't like using it though so eventually I mainly used kratom.

Towards the end of her life she was in such bad pain she would whine every time she got up or laid down but on kratom she didn't mind at all. Maybe it just helped with the pain but I swear it also visibly reduced her anxiety. You could watch her lay and pant in pain, clearly stressed out and then give her 1-2g of kratom and watch the stress melt away and she could actually lay down in peace and nap.


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Edited by musiclover420 (12/26/16 03:09 PM)


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Re: Lacing Dog Treats With Cannabis Is Big Business [Re: musiclover420]
    #23960225 - 12/27/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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OfTheVoid46 said:
I wonder how many people actually believe it's for their dog's anxiety and not simply to appease the human so they don't have to hear it yap.




It might be a hyperactive dog, who is concerned about human etiquette.

That would be an example of recreational use, to relieve social pressure.

The dog needs to loosen up, or has an attention deficit.

:facepalm:

I wonder whether prescription laws can be applied to animals.


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