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Trump the Manchurian Candidate.
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I fail to see your conclusion.
Oil is a major war resource. The world is always at war. Either on paper or real life.
Resources are what fuel the ability to war. The ability to reduce any foes ability is the general idea of war.
Yes some people will take advantage of it and make a lot of money.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Morel Guy]
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Morel Guy]
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Oil is the patsy used as the official excuse
Look up the countries that didn't have centralized banking connected to western banking cartels and you will find a shocking correlation to the areas the western nations constantly claim and have trouble or terrorism. Or countries that refuses fiat urgency trading and it may shock you that oil was just a fall guy for darker motives
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You don't see army's running on vegetable oil do you? If you did you would see more conflict targeting soy bean production. And facilities that make bio-fuel.
The first things you target in a war are fuel/ammo dumps. A tank is fairly worthless if it cannot move.
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Takethatdarwin said: Oil is the patsy used as the official excuse
Look up the countries that didn't have centralized banking connected to western banking cartels and you will find a shocking correlation to the areas the western nations constantly claim and have trouble or terrorism. Or countries that refuses fiat urgency trading and it may shock you that oil was just a fall guy for darker motives
Yes, oil and resources can't be used as the rational for military operations, they like using moral and security reasons instead to make people feel better about it.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said: You don't see army's running on vegetable oil do you? If you did you would see more conflict targeting soy bean production. And facilities that make bio-fuel.
The first things you target in a war are fuel/ammo dumps. A tank is fairly worthless if it cannot move.
The U.S. navy built an alternative fuel fleet for just this reason, not long ago. Everyone made a stink about it because algae based bio-fuel was running close to 15 bucks/gallon at the time, but the navy was like "fuck off you ignorant fucks".
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: ballsalsa]
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Working on jet fuel from plant oils as well.
It's the future as it is now. Still requires production facilities.
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Point being oil was not the true cause of the middle eastern wars.
Again look at the countries that don't have western ties central banks and that's where Americans enemies lay it's abundantly clear this isn't about energy
This is about westernized central banks wanting total control of these nations spending powers and political influence.
We already wher over the fact that no part of the US government has any authority over the federal reserve
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Takethatdarwin said: Point being oil was not the true cause of the middle eastern wars.
Again look at the countries that don't have western ties central banks and that's where Americans enemies lay it's abundantly clear this isn't about energy
This is about westernized central banks wanting total control of these nations spending powers and political influence.
We already wher over the fact that no part of the US government has any authority over the federal reserve
The idiot progressives need a boogeyman, their overlords came up with oil
And they've been falling for it ever since
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The Fed derives its authority from Congress, and the Board of Governors is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Board reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress. Congress sets the goals for the Fed's monetary policy.
Stop making things up.
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Takethatdarwin said: We already wher over the fact that no part of the US government has any authority over the federal reserve
The Fed derives its authority from Congress, and the Board of Governors is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Board reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress. Congress sets the goals for the Fed's monetary policy.
Stop making things up.
to be fair, 14 year terms give them some insulation from retribution(this isn't the right word for what i mean) by individual administrations and legislators.
also, even though, the President can remove a Governor from the board "for cause", I'm not really sure what that would entail. Perhaps Enlil could chime in on this one.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: ballsalsa]
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I haven't made anything up! I never claimed they self appointed themselves. But answer me this what branch or department has authority over the operational federal reserve?
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did you mean to reply to Fal there?
there is a reply to: drop down above the subject line when you post.
check it out.
you can also click "quick reply" in the top right of the post you are responding to and it will do the work for you.
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Takethatdarwin said: We already wher over the fact that no part of the US government has any authority over the federal reserve
The Fed derives its authority from Congress, and the Board of Governors is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Board reports to and is directly accountable to the Congress. Congress sets the goals for the Fed's monetary policy.
Stop making things up.
I haven't made anything up! I never claimed they self appointed themselves. But answer me this what branch or department has authority over the operational federal reserve?
Congress, as noted above.
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The U.S. Congress has ultimate authority over the Federal Reserve. They can dictate policy to the Reserve, modify it, disband it, reform it, or do whatever the fuck they want to it at any time. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit and most likely 
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Enlil]
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: sudly]
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you mentioned syria and the syrian civil war - but that is a map of iran. Am I missing something??
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: 404]
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Oh lol true, it's supposed to be the proposed pipeline map.

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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Enlil]
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Takethatdarwin said: I haven't made anything up! I never claimed they self appointed themselves. But answer me this what branch or department has authority over the operational federal reserve?
The U.S. Congress has ultimate authority over the Federal Reserve. They can dictate policy to the Reserve, modify it, disband it, reform it, or do whatever the fuck they want to it at any time. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit and most likely 
IDK, the Wikipedia which is far from infallible seems to think the Congress's control over the FED is more limited. I'm trying to remember the times when the Congress was one party controlled and when it wasn't. It seemed like the FED was still doing what Obama wanted even when they were GOP controlled.
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Congress chooses to have limited day to day control. That is by statute....statute written and passed by Congress. Congress created the fed and the rules under which it operates. Congress could change those rules at any time and control every minutia of the Fed's activities. It chooses not to. That is not the same as Congress not having control.
Similarly, Congress created the FBI, but Congress chose to allow that agency to run without daily intervention by Congress. Congress could, however, change that at any time.
All agencies of the Government have delegated authority to make day to day decisions. This is necessary, otherwise, the 535 members of Congress would have to decide everything they do. All agencies, including the fed, are always under the ultimate control of Congress.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Enlil]
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I'm glad Trump won the election. He's going to dismantle the left wing organized crime system in this country.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Luddite]
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See this website about how Trump will bring great benefit to the world. http://www.anncoulter.com/
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Luddite]
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Are you another pizza gate homo?
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Rush limbo the bimbo is an oxy eating child molesting homo
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This is pretty good explanation of how the left were destroying the planet before Trump saved us from doom. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/12/23/democrats_know_the_damage_obama_did
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That says absolutely nothing at all about anything Obama did. More right wing subversion from a faggot.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: sudly]
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Ya he's a retard. Rush the retard.
Only 80 year old folks that know nothing about reality like that guy. Popping Loy's listening to rush and Fox News at full volume!
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Enlil]
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Takethatdarwin said: I haven't made anything up! I never claimed they self appointed themselves. But answer me this what branch or department has authority over the operational federal reserve?
The U.S. Congress has ultimate authority over the Federal Reserve. They can dictate policy to the Reserve, modify it, disband it, reform it, or do whatever the fuck they want to it at any time. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit and most likely 
A genuine question...then why is the FED Reserve not apart of the government? Wouldnt there be less conspiracy ala Jekyll Island shit....if this was the case?
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SirTripAlot said: A genuine question...then why is the FED Reserve not apart of the government? Wouldnt there be less conspiracy ala Jekyll Island shit....if this was the case?
It is a part of the government. It is a government agency created by Congress.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Enlil]
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What about Freedom of Information Act?...the Fed is not defined as an agency in that regard....."these forms of government" like the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and other quasi like ilk just dont seem up to snuff. Either privatize them or make it public....not both.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: Enlil]
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The U.S. Congress has ultimate authority over the Federal Reserve. They can dictate policy to the Reserve, modify it, disband it, reform it, or do whatever the fuck they want to it at any time. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit and most likely 
Yes, congress does, but most of them would need to have artificial balls and spines installed first, because they don't have them.
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: SirTripAlot]
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I don't know where you are getting your information, but you can absolutely use an FOIA request to get Fed records.
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https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/fox-loses-foia-suit-against-federal-reserve
"Hellerstein's ruling marks the first time a court has so clearly and expansively dealt with the question of whether the regional banks are subject to FOIA as government agencies. However, prior court rulings in other cases had indicated the banks were not government agencies subject to FOIA and the banks had also long maintained this. "
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That doesn't in any way support your claim. The Federal Reserve is an agency and is subject to FOIA requests:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/foia/about_foia.htm
"The Federal Reserve Board (Board) maintains public and nonpublic records. Public records are available at the Board's conventional reading room and electronic reading room. A FOIA request is not required to obtain these materials.
The submission of a FOIA request is required to obtain nonpublic records. If you cannot locate the records or information you seek on the Board's web site, you may wish to file a FOIA request"
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Yes it does....its pretty clear. Judge ruled that banks ( the ones that make up the fed are not government agenices).
Additionally: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-fed-gets-around-freedom-of-information-act-requests-2009-11
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Re: Trump the Manchurian Candidate. [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Here is the Fed bank of Boston stating it:
https://www.bostonfed.org/contact-us/foia-requests.aspx
They have made their records available "in the spirt of FOIA" Sure. Again as the bank admits FOIA does not apply.
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