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Space travelers beware: High-speed solar protons may mess up your hashish high
    #23943161 - 12/20/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Stanford neuroscientist Ivan Soltesz, PhD, is a very serious researcher with a focus on the causes of, and treatments for, chronic epileptic seizures in children. But sometimes he goes off-topic, just to keep his mind loose. Several days ago, Soltesz sent me a study to read, “purely for the fun of it.” Hmmm. In the rarified — and often dry as dust — world of scientific publications, fun is a rare event.

“Not many neuroscience studies have such a title and first sentence in the abstract,” Soltesz helpfully explained in his accompanying email.

I peeked at the study’s title, which was: “Neurophysiology of space travel: Energetic solar particles cause cell type-specific plasticity of neurotransmission.”

Okay. Hmmm again. I nibbled on. The first sentence of the abstract read, “In the not too distant future, humankind will embark on one of its greatest adventures, the travel to distant planets.” Not one to argue with that assertion, I bore down and bit off the next chunk of geek-bait, i.e., the second sentence: “However, deep space travel is associated with an inevitable exposure to radiation levels.” That set up a nifty conflict.

So I read the entire study, which appears in the journal Brain Structure and Function. Wow, wow, wow. Here’s my synopsis: Subatomic speedballs shot from that gun of a sun can zap your head and blow your mind.

Fortunately for terrestrials, Earth’s magnetic field deflects the high-velocity positively charged protons (those little speedballs) our sun spews out in ceaseless streams. But outer space is rife with these whizzing pico-pellets, which (the study showed) can gum up signal transmission within a brain structure called the hippocampus.

Don’t ever leave home without your hippocampus, at least not if you want to remember how to get back home. It’s critical to memory and to spatial navigation — which in itself should give pause to anyone contemplating outerly spatial navigation.

An even more mind-blowing finding: High-energy protons’ zapping action is selective. They specifically mess with nerve-cell receptors for the brain’s never-ending supply of home-grown internal marijuana.

As I wrote in a blog post a while back, “[E]very psychoactive drug works by mimicking some naturally occurring, evolutionarily adaptive, brain-produced substance.” The active component in marijuana and hashish is a doppelganger for a set of molecules in the brain called endocannabinoids. The latter evolved not to get us high but to perform numerous important signaling functions known and unknown.

Anything that messes up those receptors is going to do a number on a hashish high, for sure.

I emailed Soltesz back: “I’ve long been concerned about the effects of space travel on the endocannabinoid circuitry — as who has not? It would now appear that our endocannabinoid receptors get a positive charge out of proton inhalation.”

He responded: “You laugh now, but on a long trip to Mars, recreation and medical marijuana use will likely become a highly controversial issue, so I stand by the utmost importance of the study.”





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Re: Space travelers beware: High-speed solar protons may mess up your hashish high [Re: misterjingo]
    #23943493 - 12/20/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Pointless science always makes me feel two things. The first is

:mindblown:


Then

:iveseenenough:



Like, somebody paid money to go to the college that paid the man who did that study. Think about that. He actually convinced a board to let him nuke the brains of rats or some shit JUST TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD DO!

That was cool back in the days of Pasteur, but shit man, if we just tossed like 50 trillion dollars at it, we could cure cancer in a decade, I guarantee it. There are so many promising treatment ideas in the works that are getting by on a few million, and somebody paid a dude TO FIND OUT IF SPACE RADIATION WOULD MAKE YOU WEIRD!


Fucking waste of time and money. How about we save that study for like two centuries from now when it might be relevant? What if we discover a magical coating that makes you immune to all forms of radiation? Solve actual problems scientists! We got shit to do!

/rant


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Re: Space travelers beware: High-speed solar protons may mess up your hashish high [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23943650 - 12/20/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No, man, that's not even remotely how science works. Science works by taking the weird people and giving them money and some space to do weird shit out of the way of everyone else (for everyone involved's safety) until they come up with something new and figure out how to explain it.

As for cancer, there are so many causes, effects, and types of cancer, that I doubt 50 trillion in cancer research would even put a dent in it. Probably take a half century, minimum, considering the progress made so far (which has been pretty spectacular). If you want a straight up "cure" as in take this pill and you no longer have cancer tomorrow morning, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Diminishing returns and all that.

Keep in mind that we're still in the days of Pasteur, but now that we've got a pretty good handle on germs, the brand new thing is nanomaterials and RNA/CRISPR.


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Re: Space travelers beware: High-speed solar protons may mess up your hashish high [Re: Kryptos]
    #23943744 - 12/20/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Kryptos said:
No, man, that's not even remotely how science works. Science works by taking the weird people and giving them money and some space to do weird shit out of the way of everyone else (for everyone involved's safety) until they come up with something new and figure out how to explain it.

As for cancer, there are so many causes, effects, and types of cancer, that I doubt 50 trillion in cancer research would even put a dent in it. Probably take a half century, minimum, considering the progress made so far (which has been pretty spectacular). If you want a straight up "cure" as in take this pill and you no longer have cancer tomorrow morning, well, that's probably never gonna happen. Diminishing returns and all that.

Keep in mind that we're still in the days of Pasteur, but now that we've got a pretty good handle on germs, the brand new thing is nanomaterials and RNA/CRISPR.



Uh we do NOT have a good handle on germs, in fact MRSA gets worse all the time.

And I've heard the "give the crazy guy money" argument before and I just couldn't disagree more. Science is only good if it serves a purpose.

Have you ever heard the Zero Sum Game argument? Basically the idea is that for something to exist, it has to come from somewhere else. For instance, the economy is not a zero sum game because you can create a new desire for things. If you invent the new woojigawhatsis and everyone wants one, people may spend money that they would have normally saved

But IMO, grant money IS a zero sum game. Most people have a general idea of how much they're going to spend on research, and every time the money  goes toward something fucking pointless, something else thats valuable didn't get the funding it needed.


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Re: Space travelers beware: High-speed solar protons may mess up your hashish high [Re: bloodsheen]
    #23943965 - 12/20/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

So I designed a Trump Toupee out of copper foil as DIY deflection field and it works like a dream.











Like a dream.









you can even ask me.


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Re: Space travelers beware: High-speed solar protons may mess up your hashish high [Re: misterjingo]
    #23944252 - 12/20/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:alien: I hate it, when that happens.


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