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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? *DELETED* [Re: Asante]
    #23942501 - 12/20/16 06:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23942502 - 12/20/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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Asante said:
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danielx said:
when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men?





Since the Pub is constantly lamenting and condemning racism against white people,as one of its favorite topics, I guess it never did.




I asked you this 507 days ago. You have yet to answer.

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Perhaps someday you'll demonstrate to us how it is that those that think all should be treated equally are racist, while those who advocate for treating certain ethnicities differently... are not.




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22027080#22027080


Perhaps you'll answer now, though I doubt it.

And racism is wrong regardless of who does it and who it is done to.





Obama gets it. Why don't you?

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“If somebody says, 'You know what, I'm not sure affirmative action is the right way to solve racial problems in this country,’ and they're immediately accused of being racist, well, then I think you have a point,” Obama said when asked if he agrees with President-elect Donald Trump that political correctness has gone too far.




http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/310964-obama-on-political-correctness-dont-go-around-just-looking-for


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23942523 - 12/20/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:

I asked you this 507 days ago. You have yet to answer.

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Perhaps someday you'll demonstrate to us how it is that those that think all should be treated equally are racist, while those who advocate for treating certain ethnicities differently... are not.




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22027080#22027080





Loud and clear: If you have different groups who's opportunities are unequal - for whatever reason - the way to help the community, which is all of us, best, is a treatment that fits the situation of each of the groups like a glove. That way, each of the groups gets helped effectively at the least expense of all of us and to benefit of all of us.

Or in one simple, powerful image: EQUALITY vs EQUITY:




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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante] * 4
    #23942526 - 12/20/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lolsy:

Still not racism.

Want to try again?

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Perhaps someday you'll demonstrate to us how it is that those that think all should be treated equally are racist, while those who advocate for treating certain ethnicities differently... are not.




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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23942537 - 12/20/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was referring in that quote of long ago to, "the widespread bashing of black people here by racist whites."

If you look at who does the widespread bashing of black people here in this forum you will find the racist whites.

I did not give a call for equal treatment as a definition of racism, as usual you present a false situation just to argue, which is why i avoid discussion with you.

No one is as dumb and uncooperative as someone who chooses not to see a point and does no attempts to try see what the other means.

So congratulations on being obstructionist and uncooperative, you're doing a great job.


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante] * 3
    #23942541 - 12/20/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:burn:

asante you rock


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Cosmic_Flame] * 9
    #23942546 - 12/20/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The thing is Wiccan... some see just that in you.

It doesn't mean they're racist... just a good judge of character.

Frankly, your obsession with race makes you come off as more racist than many here.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #23942555 - 12/20/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Tmethyl said:
Do we not deserve it? :shrug:
The white race has been pretty fucking awful to every non-white race on the planet.





so give them their 40 acres and a mule if the white guilt is eating away at you so badly

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Asante said:
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danielx said:
when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men?





Since the Pub is constantly lamenting and condemning racism against white people,as one of its favorite topics, I guess it never did.





racism is racism. it's just that simple, it should never be acceptable for it to
only be acceptable for one race and not all races but it's clearly acceptable when
it's whites and more specifically white men that are discriminated against or to
be the targets of racist attacks in today's society

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante] * 3
    #23942561 - 12/20/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
I was referring in that quote of long ago to, "the widespread bashing of black people here by racist whites."

If you look at who does the widespread bashing of black people here in this forum you will find the racist whites.





so you only concern yourself about racist whites

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23942610 - 12/20/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm white and I contributed nothing towards the misery of other people.

Am I still evil?


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23942613 - 12/20/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No as you know I concern myself with problematic trends in the community, and that's just not the case with racist asians and blacks.

If we want a Shroomery that reflects the ethnic and gender diversity of the worldwide mushroom community we should strive towards being more inclusive.

A good step is raising awareness of where the problems are. Bigoted whites are the largest most visible and vocal of the bigoted groups.

Equity. Only fixing the taps that are broken, rather than all of them equally.


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23942636 - 12/20/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Im racist for sure. Im racist against the stupid race of assholes,dickheads, pieces of shit, etc. I wish I could find a single word to use cos they all look the same to me :shrug:


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23942644 - 12/20/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
No as you know I concern myself with problematic trends in the community, and that's just not the case with racist asians and blacks.





but you seem completely unconcerned about the bigotry of liberals toward
conservatives or toward those you call white racists, in fact you show that
bigotry yourself so this claim would be false

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If we want a Shroomery that reflects the ethnic and gender diversity of the worldwide mushroom community we should strive towards being more inclusive.




yet you always bash conservatives and whites as racists, is that being inclusive?


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Equity. Only fixing the taps that are broken, rather than all of them equally.




this equity you speak of is apparently handing one person more than the others, I
recall a video posted very recently regarding a game of monopoly in which one
player was given an unfair advantage over the other and of course the player given
more was always a white male and a conclusion was drawn that the one handed more
to start with was mean and yet the visual reinforces the wealthy white man
stereotype. you arent fixing anything, you point fingers and scream "you're broken"

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante]
    #23942657 - 12/20/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's not really racism, but if it hurt your feelings then it's not like you have to read or watch that stuff. I think it's silly to blame any person for the entirety of their ancestral baggage. We're in a new day which has never been experienced until right now, and that grants us all another opportunity to live more harmoniously and transcend the difficulties of our past. First you gotta recognize it though, and then you can let it go.

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23942661 - 12/20/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:


Quote:

Equity. Only fixing the taps that are broken, rather than all of them equally.




this equity you speak of is apparently handing one person more than the others, I
recall a video posted very recently regarding a game of monopoly in which one
player was given an unfair advantage over the other and of course the player given
more was always a white male and a conclusion was drawn that the one handed more
to start with was mean and yet the visual reinforces the wealthy white man
stereotype. you arent fixing anything, you point fingers and scream "you're broken"




just wanted to point out that you didn't grasp the gist at all. One person was given more boxes because they were on a lower elevation and the fence was higher. They needed those boxes to see the game, man!

Whereas everyone starts on the same level in monopoly. Equity is applying correctly proportioned solutions for the scale of the problem, as opposed to saying that if you just give everyone the same amount then everything's fair.

For instance: someone dying of thirst is going to need a lot more water than you. If you and a person who are dying of thirst were in a room together, and someone walked in and gave you both a small glass of water, you'd be fine and maybe feel refreshed, but the other person would still be in grave danger...

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Chakra Shock] * 1
    #23942702 - 12/20/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

People have the misperception that we invented slavery, that blacks here are somehow differant then every other race and deserve to be treated like kids, that the natives were genocided(which they weren't)

People are told we don't have a culture, and our food is some of the worst in the world. Food is a big part of cultural bonding and we get together to eat some poorly seasoned whole cooked animal, and various gross casseroles. Adriana have the real food, and look at them, destroying all of us educationally.

I feel absolutely no guilt, and those who do show what was people they are. I think we need to recolonialize, in fact.

We brought the people here put of the pre wheel age, kicked the Muslims out of India(too bad we can't do that here, completely)
Colonialism from the English, specifically, was a good thing


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #23942772 - 12/20/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Asante said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:

I asked you this 507 days ago. You have yet to answer.

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Perhaps someday you'll demonstrate to us how it is that those that think all should be treated equally are racist, while those who advocate for treating certain ethnicities differently... are not.




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22027080#22027080





Loud and clear: If you have different groups who's opportunities are unequal - for whatever reason - the way to help the community, which is all of us, best, is a treatment that fits the situation of each of the groups like a glove. That way, each of the groups gets helped effectively at the least expense of all of us and to benefit of all of us.

Or in one simple, powerful image: EQUALITY vs EQUITY:







"different groups who's opportunities are unequal"

Like wealthy and poor people?  There's never going to be completely equal opportunities in life, some people grow up without a parent, some are abused, ect.

The best society can do is try to offer equal opportunities, but it can NOT create equal outcomes. Not having equal outcomes does NOT mean there's a racial bias taking place, that in itself is racist rhetoric.

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23942775 - 12/20/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Chakra Shock said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:


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Equity. Only fixing the taps that are broken, rather than all of them equally.




this equity you speak of is apparently handing one person more than the others, I
recall a video posted very recently regarding a game of monopoly in which one
player was given an unfair advantage over the other and of course the player given
more was always a white male and a conclusion was drawn that the one handed more
to start with was mean and yet the visual reinforces the wealthy white man
stereotype. you arent fixing anything, you point fingers and scream "you're broken"




just wanted to point out that you didn't grasp the gist at all. One person was given more boxes because they were on a lower elevation and the fence was higher. They needed those boxes to see the game, man!




I got it and it certainly isnt indicative of the US today, it is propaganda


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Whereas everyone starts on the same level in monopoly.




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23937395#23937395

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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23942796 - 12/20/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can't make everything truly equal, and then you have to ask what groups or people deserve those extra crates to stand on? Where are those boxes coming from? Is there a criteria for needing the metaphorical crates? When are we equal enough?

It isn't as simple as black people having it worse. In this it's tinged with the implication that any adversity has some origins in what we did to them, not their choices. There are plenty of whites, just by the numbers, that have it as bad as the worst conditions for blacks.

Liberals do the same with women. They get equal opportunity and still want to give more because they started low rather then letting them find their place economically. Liberals are too separated from the natural ways of the world to even think there is something off about women being half the work force when they haven't ever been


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Re: when did it become acceptable and cool to be racist toward white men? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23942806 - 12/20/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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specialpeopleclub said:
You can't make everything truly equal, and then you have to ask what groups or people deserve those extra crates to stand on? Where are those boxes coming from? Is there a criteria for needing the metaphorical crates? When are we equal enough?





if you want to make them equal, tear down the fence

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