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Tmethyl
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: demiu5]
#23942291 - 12/20/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think about that a lot, Demiu. Every step you take is killing some small organism, and why does small have to equal 'insignificant'? Even the smallest bacteria are just as necessary as any large creature, in fact all mammals depend on bacteria. I know life feeds on life, but pointless killing is hard to accept.
Since you can't live without killing things, I am just left to assume that it's meant to be.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23947111 - 12/21/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have wished I was dead....but more to the fact that I wished I had another life....more money, better friends, etc. Earth is a very difficult place to live, and the fact that we are being betrayed by our government just makes me wish I had chosen a better planet or galaxy to experience life.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: Jenjens]
#23947828 - 12/22/16 12:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hear you Yeah. But wouldn't it be just a tiny bit hilarious if death was just being unborn...but so that you die....and then just like almost immediately slip right into a nice warm womb and then your out in the freezing ass world again with your little naked self crying away for a nipple at first light? LOL
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23948259 - 12/22/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LRG said: So get up off your ass, make some money, marry that foxy thing, make some babies, and be happy. If that's not your idea of happiness then I can't help you.
That's not my idea of happiness, and no, you can't help me.
That's my idea of a banal pointless existence, to think of it as an "idea of happiness" requires a serious amount of believed-in conditioning. A consumer mind-set.  I wish this could be my dream, it would be so, so simple.
I guess you could always keep searching for the "meaning of life." Then wake up one day and realize LOVE is the answer to the question LIFE is. Must be so much fun to be sitting around waiting for something magical to happen that never does.
I'd rather you not poke fun of and emasculate my idea of happiness, but to each his own. Makes no matter to me what you wish to do with your life. Shouldn't be sad for me. I wake up nearly every morning to a beautiful girl with a nice set of hips. I'd rather have that than wake up alone and wondering where I will find happiness. I found happiness. I played the game and I won YAY FOR ME!!!
Happiness is simple so, so simple. Yet so many people here are so caught up in EVERYTHING they refuse to seek out the simple things in life: Love of a good woman, comfort of a good home, and freedom to do what you want. I'd rather have all 3 of those than just freedom to do what you want. I won't be thinking about this and that when I'm inside her tonight, I can promise you that. Nor will I be regretting all the time we spent together when she leaves me one way or another.
Truth be told, I don't find people like you interesting or "deep" at all. You're mostly all the same, self absorbed and quite frankly unhappy. I don't get it, and I don't need to because I don't care.
-------------------- "I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love.” - Gandalf The Grey. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes! "Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous "Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: LRG]
#23948580 - 12/22/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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and what if she leaves you?
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: LRG]
#23949005 - 12/22/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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LRG said: So get up off your ass, make some money, marry that foxy thing, make some babies, and be happy. If that's not your idea of happiness then I can't help you.
That's not my idea of happiness, and no, you can't help me.
That's my idea of a banal pointless existence, to think of it as an "idea of happiness" requires a serious amount of believed-in conditioning. A consumer mind-set.  I wish this could be my dream, it would be so, so simple.
I guess you could always keep searching for the "meaning of life." Then wake up one day and realize LOVE is the answer to the question LIFE is. Must be so much fun to be sitting around waiting for something magical to happen that never does.
I'd rather you not poke fun of and emasculate my idea of happiness, but to each his own. Makes no matter to me what you wish to do with your life. Shouldn't be sad for me. I wake up nearly every morning to a beautiful girl with a nice set of hips. I'd rather have that than wake up alone and wondering where I will find happiness. I found happiness. I played the game and I won YAY FOR ME!!!
Happiness is simple so, so simple. Yet so many people here are so caught up in EVERYTHING they refuse to seek out the simple things in life: Love of a good woman, comfort of a good home, and freedom to do what you want. I'd rather have all 3 of those than just freedom to do what you want. I won't be thinking about this and that when I'm inside her tonight, I can promise you that. Nor will I be regretting all the time we spent together when she leaves me one way or another.
Truth be told, I don't find people like you interesting or "deep" at all. You're mostly all the same, self absorbed and quite frankly unhappy. I don't get it, and I don't need to because I don't care.
I know where you're coming from, I do wish I could believe you, but your current situation and mindset are temporary. I don't mean to come off condescending. We've all likely been where you are now, and I am basically in your exact position presently, I mean I have all the pussy I want and a car too. I hope this lasts a very long time for you, and I hope my words don't shrink the duration, but you are not truly happy. Permanent happiness cannot be found in objects, or mindsets, or living situations. Soon something will happen to change your current mindset and you will no longer be happy, this will happen over and over again until you've had enough of the game and you will open your mind to the possibility that there is something greater. I will meet you there.  "Think you're in heaven, but ya living in hell."
The happiness I seek cannot be disturbed. I don't need or want you to seek it as well, you have your path.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: yeah]
#23949010 - 12/22/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah said: and what if she leaves you?
I don't worry about that. I really don't even entertain the thought. I treat her like a queen. Why would she leave? I couldn't answer that. I buy her flowers, I surprise her with BnB getaways, I don't lie to her, and I respect her.
She and I share a bond that can't be explained. I saw her working at 7-11 and I knew she was the one. Her eyes were like a tractor beam, could not escape the cuteness. I popped the question "Has anyone told you how cute you are today?" She blushed, gave me that bright, beautiful smile and said no. Took a few trips to that 7-11 to ask her out, but eventually I did and the rest is history. We're not married but I intend to and she knows it, probably because I've told her I'm going to marry her and all she does is give me that look when I first talked to her.
The love of a beautiful woman is all I've wanted.
The simple life ain't so simple. It's whatever you want to make it.
-------------------- "I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love.” - Gandalf The Grey. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes! "Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous "Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: LRG]
#23949059 - 12/22/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I want a soulmate to just appear and be available but that isn't happening
I guess I'm not as good at being happy as you are
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23949104 - 12/22/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tmethyl said: I know where you're coming from, I do wish I could believe you, but your current situation and mindset are temporary. I don't mean to come off condescending. We've all likely been where you are now, and I am basically in your exact position presently, I mean I have all the pussy I want and a car too. I hope this lasts a very long time for you, and I hope my words don't shrink the duration, but you are not truly happy. Permanent happiness cannot be found in objects, or mindsets, or living situations. Soon something will happen to change your current mindset and you will no longer be happy, this will happen over and over again until you've had enough of the game and you will open your mind to the possibility that there is something greater. I will meet you there.  "Think you're in heaven, but ya living in hell."
The happiness I seek cannot be disturbed. I don't need or want you to seek it as well, you have your path.
True happiness can't be found here. DUH. All you can do is alleviate the time you do spend here. Except my queen is not an object. She is a Divine Being just like you and I. Big difference.
Truly happy? No, I can't be truly happy until the people of this world stop killing their Mother and each other. I can't be truly happy until people stop being entranced by the material and become mystified by the spiritual. Do not think because I allow myself to share my life with someone and want a good "material" life I do not embrace my spiritual side.
Meet me where? Heaven? Almost made it there as a child, but someone stepped in and said "No." I think most everyone with a near death experience will say they had a choice to move on or go back. I didn't have a choice. Jesus said "No. You're going back to your mother." Fucking Jesus in the middle of rainbows dude, IDK what to tell ya. That's what it's all about. Funny thing is I didn't grow up in a religious household nor did we even go to church, but there He was.
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yeah said: I want a soulmate to just appear and be available but that isn't happening
I guess I'm not as good at being happy as you are 
It's not about being better or worse. I'm not so sure soul-mates exist. True love and love at first sight? Yea I'll buy that.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: LRG]
#23949113 - 12/22/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I totally relate to that feeling of just being told "No, you will live".
for all I know I was resuscitated by paramedics
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: yeah]
#23950400 - 12/22/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The money system will fall to pieces soon enough, then the truth will be openly shown to all for the fraud that it is. I'm not sure it will make people happy though it really needs to happen before any meaningful healing can begin.
-------------------- "Love one another." "To Love is to know me." "Love is the Law, Love under Will." "In Compassion, all sorrows end." Regardless of the Master, the message is the same- Choose love and you shall live, Choose Fear and you shall die. Help bring peace to this Earth: Love one another, and serve others before yourself.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23950917 - 12/23/16 06:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eywa_devotee said: The money system will fall to pieces soon enough, then the truth will be openly shown to all for the fraud that it is. I'm not sure it will make people happy though it really needs to happen before any meaningful healing can begin.
Agreed. Put a better system of "value" in place. The quote in your signature hits the nail on the head.
-------------------- "I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love.” - Gandalf The Grey. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes! "Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous "Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: yeah]
#23952057 - 12/23/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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To the OP, yes I have thought about my death many times. unfortunately, alot of my dear friends(actually brothers) have died. Some I saw before my eyes.... its crazy hearing young men screaming for their moms ( I wish I could un-hear this, everyday). I have always felt immensely guilty for surviving the Marines ...although a got pretty banged up myself.
I also know one doesnt need to see the face of war to feel this way. My suffering is the worst for me...your suffering is the worst for you...there is no "scale" that determines what is worse. With this being said I find life extremely difficult and as others have eluded too....the facade of being happy 24/7. However, in those rare moments of true happiness(like my son smiling to me) all of the bad is worth it somehow. I also know that having a personal relationship with God has saved my life....not preaching....just my experience.
If there was some miraculous pill or chemical....or some magic words that would make this disappear for you; I would graciously give it to you....we all know this isn't the case, I hope and pray that you find true happiness.
-------------------- “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: yeah]
#23956276 - 12/25/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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i thought i wished i was dead, later on i realized i really didnt wish that at all
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: yeah]
#23967388 - 12/30/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought about it many times unfortunately and even still today the thought it comes back to me. It seems that the thought comes to me whenever life gets difficult and just want to give up from being so overwhelmed by it all. Also I have a low self esteem and it's hard for me to see where I have value and worth and still wonder what my purpose is in life. I've learned that it helps me to have goals and actually follow though with what I plan for myself and my future. The main thing I want to do is travel and that is one of the things I look forward to doing and gives me an incentive to stay alive. I think anyone can have a purpose in their life if they give themselves one and one with meaning.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: yeah]
#23970219 - 12/31/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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of course I have. Even little children will scream it usually after not getting what they want.
We do not know where we came from. We just envisage it--the wish- as an off switch to the on-pain of whatever is making us feel like that.
We know some actually carry it out.
I saw a VERY moving film once called The Bridge . The whole film is looking at people jump to their deaths from the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.
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Re: Have you ever wished you were dead? [Re: zzripz]
#23971034 - 12/31/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 30 days ago) |
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The classic Zen question is, 'Who is it that is wishing?,' and following that line of inquiry to the source - a la Bassui. . Bassui was a zen master from Japan, who was very hesitant to write in words - yet when asked to by sincerely disciples, he could hardly refuse. . . One famous letter was written to a student facing a serious and, in all likelihood terminal illness -- the famous line, 'You are facing your illness squarely, like a good Zen student,' remained in mind. Also throughout the letter he would make such (good) comments as, 'There is no illness..' or things like this... (rather paraphrased, but accurate to the spirit, I would say)
Perhaps random, but somewhat related. To the question at hand, these things are easily overcome - if we believe so. After all, it's a question of the goings-on in the mind; so naturally, what the mind believes therefore is of significant importance. To wit -- in a deep realization of an acid trip one might realize -- there's nothing to overcome, and infinitely no problem -- because you are what you are. To overcome the self is a paradox which never arises, because one is oneself, perfectly. Words perhaps don't express it, perfectly, yet I know that it's there in many forms, an others have it too.
To the specific question - the best advice I have is, and again, these things are easy to resolve and heal -- set it aside. Focus on other things. Enjoy the sunlight of the day, or enjoy the peacefulness of a calm scene. Set it aside - and if it comes back, set it aside again.
The main point of it being easy to overcome is that it's within the mind - and so, what the mind believes about it, is the significant decider.
Very important in all of this, especially in these days, is to have a calm mind; don't have too many scattered lines -- focus on a few, strengthening, avenues of enquiry. Enlighten oneself with love and light, and give love and light to others -- this invariably returns in the same fashion, sooner or later; this is where the real growth, and the real magic, the deep beauty abides.
In the meantime, eat healthy, and hug a lot.
Cheers and peace, all the best wished you.
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