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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Psychedelvin]
    #23960763 - 12/27/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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They are in fact a well lubed and greased propaganda machine and any other explanations is just an attempt to sugar coat reality.




I wouldn't go so far as to call them a propaganda machine. This isn't the Third Reich. They do reporting all the time. And I am in full agreement with Morel Guy -- a lot of people around here want to call that a staged event. It wasn't. They were just covering an actual event.




Yes but more important was your excuse for the lack of truth in the media which you later admitted to be incorrect.

It's these online apologizers who need to be exposed because that thinking is what allows these agencies to continue spreading disinformation




But I didn't say it was incorrect, I meant that my previous statement is true the vast majority of the time, but technically not always. I maintain that there is no constant string-pulling, and that if Leon Panetta wants to review NYT articles, who cares.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #23960908 - 12/27/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with DividedQuantum.  The big media companies are clearly colluding with Government, but the Government doesn't 'run' them.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23961126 - 12/27/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Big media thinks the world needs brown nosing.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23961915 - 12/28/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgwLHAC5mk9Ghblc6O7AXzxX5dNLlMg0hHUn-D_Ay7I/htmlview

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Yeah, I see that as common interests engaged in corruption, which I never denied was happening. There's nothing new there. I guess we just got caught up in terminology. The elite class definitely works together to maintain the status quo. Been happening since Roman times and earlier. I don't see this as anything new or special. Perhaps I was a little too conservative in my comments about the media, but I did say earlier in the thread, I think, that the media definitely serves those who own them, but they don't need special prodding to tow the party line. That Leon Panetta is reviewing New York Times articles is not surprising -- he's probably on the payroll -- and I would remind you that he is no longer in government. The media does 99% or their reporting on their own, knowing what they have to say on behalf of their masters.



You're just straight up in denial at this point. What about soros controlling vice? What's your explanation for that? I just proved beyond a doubt that there are bad people pulling the media's  strings. Deny it if you must, to maintain your pride, but the open minded will see through your excuse making and see this kind of corruption for what it is.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: camerinkw]
    #23961918 - 12/28/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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WOW. I never knew that doc existed, it's marvelous.



Haha, yeah. People on this forum constantly try to use the excuse that I'm merely consuming conservative media when I start bashing on the liberal media. But I don't consume conservative media. My sources are all primary documents, and if not that then liberal media.

EDIT: I bet no one else on this forum knew that doc existed either. Except maybe peyotezen


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23961923 - 12/28/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree with DividedQuantum.  The big media companies are clearly colluding with Government, but the Government doesn't 'run' them.



What do you call it when the media is controlled by corrupt globalist figures, those same people run the government, and when a reporter speaks out against one of the corrupt globalists in government, they merely reach out to their corrupt globalist buddy who controls the company to silence his/her reporters? Side note, most of the reporters are corrupt globalists as well, who don't have to be whipped into line, but merely shill for globalists to maintain their prestige.!


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23961925 - 12/28/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What about the secret press party at either Hillary's or Podestas fucking house? Over 30 press figures attended a fucking Hillary party, and then colluded with her campaign on a level that was unprecented. I'm sorry, but when a HuffPo reporter emailed Hillary's campaign after the news of her server dropped not this just last march but last march, and asked what he/she could publish "so WE  can get out ahead of the narrative," makes it glaringly obvious that reporters essentially worked FOR the campaign.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23962081 - 12/28/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You are really out there Webster.  You derail every thread with paranoid conspricay theory.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23962111 - 12/28/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If people like you think I'm crazy that tells me I'm the sanest person I know.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23962226 - 12/28/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What about the secret press party at either Hillary's or Podestas fucking house? Over 30 press figures attended a fucking Hillary party, and then colluded with her campaign on a level that was unprecented. I'm sorry, but when a HuffPo reporter emailed Hillary's campaign after the news of her server dropped not this just last march but last march, and asked what he/she could publish "so WE  can get out ahead of the narrative," makes it glaringly obvious that reporters essentially worked FOR the campaign.




If I posted a HuffPo article right now youd use several facepalm graemlins and write it off.

But when one of their reporters gives the Hillary camp a heads up about a story coming its suddenly unprecedented media collusion.

Either nobody trusts the corrupt, ratings-less lying liberal media, or theyre all powerful propaganda masters that can influence elections by relaying facts to the Clinton Camp. Which?

Its the same stupid shit I heard about Obama for 8 years.

"Omg Obummer is so useless, he has no clue. But also, hes an evil genius socialist whos going to trick the world into taking your guns and tanking the economy."


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23962298 - 12/28/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

In your hypothetical scenario you're still linking a Huffpo article as evidence, which would be a testament to the fact that media collusion with campaigns does indeed have an effect and tricks people. :lol: The answer is obvious. I'd dismiss the article depending on if it was huffpo analysis of just them reporting on a fact. HuffPo  analysis is almost always horrible, left-leaning, establishment dogma. The idiots who link it as evidence(more numerable than the number of people that deny it nearly outright like me) and the idiots who actually believe it and end up agreeing with the guy that linked it are victims of the kind of malevolent trickery and corrupt collusion the Clinton campaign and media need to be held accountable for. Is it at all fair that Clinton was leaked primary debate questions against Bernie in advance of the debates? No, it's not fair. It should be criminal. Millions of people were mislead into thinking Clinton was more knowledgeable than Bernie, in reality she was just unfairly better prepared, and IMO Bernie still wiped the floor with her. It's baffling that all of you liberals aren't up in arms about this. Your party is literally dying because of the sort of corrupt collusion I'm talking about. Donna Brazil was fired from CNN(of all the liberal networks, :ilold:) for unethical behavior regarding her leaking debate questions directly to Hillary, but she remains the head of the DNC. That's just preposterous. If there was nothing unethical, and I'd go as far as to say sinister, about what the media and Hillary did behind closed doors, there wouldn't be so much outrage about it. Hillary wouldn't be going down as the most corrupt political figure to ever run for office. But she is.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Webster10] * 2
    #23962384 - 12/28/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not questioning the media's collusion with the Clinton campaign. I'm a Bernie supporter, remember?

If youd stop attaching assumptions to my posts this would be a lot easier.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23962446 - 12/28/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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It's baffling that all of you liberals aren't up in arms about this. Your party is literally dying because of the sort of corrupt collusion I'm talking about.




You are acting as though you are privy to some revelation that wasn't old news to everyone on this board months ago.  Also, you say things like "Your party" as though you are under the assumption that you are addressing Democrats.  In many cases, you aren't.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Webster10] * 3
    #23962806 - 12/28/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree with DividedQuantum.  The big media companies are clearly colluding with Government, but the Government doesn't 'run' them.



What do you call it when the media is controlled by corrupt globalist figures, those same people run the government, and when a reporter speaks out against one of the corrupt globalists in government, they merely reach out to their corrupt globalist buddy who controls the company to silence his/her reporters?



I call it corrupt super wealthy people doing whatever they can to protect and grow their wealth.

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What about the secret press party at either Hillary's or Podestas fucking house? Over 30 press figures attended a fucking Hillary party, and then colluded with her campaign on a level that was unprecented. I'm sorry, but when a HuffPo reporter emailed Hillary's campaign after the news of her server dropped not this just last march but last march, and asked what he/she could publish "so WE  can get out ahead of the narrative," makes it glaringly obvious that reporters essentially worked FOR the campaign.



Semantics.  It was glaringly obvious that the reporter was a Hillary supporter.

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Is it at all fair that Clinton was leaked primary debate questions against Bernie in advance of the debates? No, it's not fair. It should be criminal. Millions of people were mislead into thinking Clinton was more knowledgeable than Bernie, in reality she was just unfairly better prepared, and IMO Bernie still wiped the floor with her. It's baffling that all of you liberals aren't up in arms about this. Your party is literally dying because of the sort of corrupt collusion I'm talking about. Donna Brazil was fired from CNN(of all the liberal networks, :ilold:) for unethical behavior regarding her leaking debate questions directly to Hillary, but she remains the head of the DNC. That's just preposterous.



You are acting as though you are privy to some revelation that wasn't old news to everyone on this board months ago.  Also, you say things like "Your party" as though you are under the assumption that you are addressing Democrats.  In many cases, you aren't.



Exactly.  We've been up in arms about this since the news came out.  You're not telling us anything we don't already know or that we aren't extremely pissed off about.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #23962834 - 12/28/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Couldn't have said it better. That's what I've been trying to tell him. It's become clear, however, that he does not plan on entertaining anyone's views but his own. Lame.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23965396 - 12/29/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Webster is not as crazy as you guys proclaim.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: camerinkw]
    #23965408 - 12/29/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Webster is not as crazy as you guys proclaim.




I agree...


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    #23965421 - 12/29/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I never said he was crazy, but I do think he's young and overenthusiastic about questionable conclusions.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23965553 - 12/29/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It will be in the DSM someday along with being overly religious.  Watching too many paranoid conspiracies on YouTube while taking hypnotizing drugs.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Webster10]
    #23966352 - 12/29/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgwLHAC5mk9Ghblc6O7AXzxX5dNLlMg0hHUn-D_Ay7I/htmlview

Scroll down to the media collusion subheading




Yeah, I see that as common interests engaged in corruption, which I never denied was happening. There's nothing new there. I guess we just got caught up in terminology. The elite class definitely works together to maintain the status quo. Been happening since Roman times and earlier. I don't see this as anything new or special. Perhaps I was a little too conservative in my comments about the media, but I did say earlier in the thread, I think, that the media definitely serves those who own them, but they don't need special prodding to tow the party line. That Leon Panetta is reviewing New York Times articles is not surprising -- he's probably on the payroll -- and I would remind you that he is no longer in government. The media does 99% or their reporting on their own, knowing what they have to say on behalf of their masters.



You're just straight up in denial at this point. What about soros controlling vice? What's your explanation for that? I just proved beyond a doubt that there are bad people pulling the media's  strings. Deny it if you must, to maintain your pride, but the open minded will see through your excuse making and see this kind of corruption for what it is.




Where's your evidence that Soros "controls" Vice?

If anything, that's Murdoch's baby now.


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