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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
#23946877 - 12/21/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morel Guy said: There is also some seriously deranged people that think everything isn't what it's said to be.
Reminds me of people that think the president is just a "puppet" and the "powers that be" run everything
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the powers that be is money. everything is driven by money...even Presidents whom want a better country. they can easily be compromised by money. it depends on their fortitude.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma]
#23946991 - 12/21/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: the powers that be is money. everything is driven by money...even Presidents whom want a better country. they can easily be compromised by money. it depends on their fortitude.
This absolutely true...I always say follow the oney it will tell you everything you need to know...and when you do it most often leads to lending credibility to so called "conspiracies"...but the money and special interests tell the truth...
Trump can also be compromised...this is a very real threat...Thats why we as the people have to hold his feet to the fire, while celebrating his victories at the same time. I support him whole heartedly, but if he strays from his agenda I will not stay loyal...
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Peteyboy]
#23947474 - 12/21/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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and these ARE the days of our lifes.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23948653 - 12/22/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: even Presidents whom want a better country
*who
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Takethatdarwin said: Remember when the media begins reporting on motives and solves the crime before any yellow tape and chalk can be placed and fully examined, then they are almost entirely pushing false agenda narratives.
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akira_akuma
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Capers]
#23948728 - 12/22/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Capers said:
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akira_akuma said: even Presidents whom want a better country
*who
ummmm, no.....whom.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23948741 - 12/22/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, you are wrong.
A good trick, for the uninitiated, in whom the who/whom distinction has not been mastered, is to replace the word "who" or "whom" with "he" and "him", and see which one makes the most sense. When "he" makes sense, one should use "who", and when "him" makes sense, one uses "whom". In the above example, one can rearrange the clause as "even he wants a better country". That's an easy trick that will help you avoid this mistake, which you make very frequently.
I can provide you with some web page links or suggest some books to read if you desire a more thorough explanation.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: stickiestace]
#23948886 - 12/22/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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stickiestace said:
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Takethatdarwin said: Remember when the media begins reporting on motives and solves the crime before any yellow tape and chalk can be placed and fully examined, then they are almost entirely pushing false agenda narratives.
My takeaway from the media is that the Russian ambassador to Turkey was shot and killed at an art exhibit.
What is the false narrative you both seem to feel the media is feeding us???
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Capers]
#23949362 - 12/22/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Capers said: No, you are wrong.
A good trick, for the uninitiated, in whom the who/whom distinction has not been mastered, is to replace the word "who" or "whom" with "he" and "him", and see which one makes the most sense. When "he" makes sense, one should use "who", and when "him" makes sense, one uses "whom". In the above example, one can rearrange the clause as "even he wants a better country". That's an easy trick that will help you avoid this mistake, which you make very frequently.
I can provide you with some web page links or suggest some books to read if you desire a more thorough explanation.

not if you don't give a fuck about whom, or who. whom just sounds better. i ain't writing a novel here, Bungle brains.
thanks for the potent suggestion though to read more thoroughly on minuscule notions of the English language and it's diverse interpolations, for the particulars, that is to say, the lesson.
i'll keep it in mind if ever it matter.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma]
#23949423 - 12/22/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're welcome. It's okay to avoid "whom" altogether in informal speech, but when you misuse it it makes you look like a pompous pseudointellectual.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Capers]
#23949460 - 12/22/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Capers said: No, you are wrong.
A good trick, for the uninitiated, in whom the who/whom distinction has not been mastered, is to replace the word "who" or "whom" with "he" and "him", and see which one makes the most sense. When "he" makes sense, one should use "who", and when "him" makes sense, one uses "whom". In the above example, one can rearrange the clause as "even he wants a better country". That's an easy trick that will help you avoid this mistake, which you make very frequently.

Wait a minute, you can just rearrange the sentence to something completely different? Alrighty then, how about this:
"a better country is even wanted by he/him"
This would make Akira right.
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OTOH, no one would ever say "a better country is even wanted by him." That's barely English. Capers was right.
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hostileuniverse said:
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Morel Guy said: There is also some seriously deranged people that think everything isn't what it's said to be.
Reminds me of people that think the president is just a "puppet" and the "powers that be" run everything
Leaders are puppets of their emotions and how that plays into the public reaction and their morality.
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Capers]
#23949550 - 12/22/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Capers said: You're welcome. It's okay to avoid "whom" altogether in informal speech, but when you misuse it it makes you look like a pompous pseudointellectual.
hhmmm, methinks...methinks you're taking this a bit more seriously than i. it's good to stretch the realm of the imagination sometimes. so i don't care to err, bro.
Edited by akira_akuma (12/26/16 10:17 AM)
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23949726 - 12/22/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: This is our way of telling Russia to gtfo Syria.
I agree with this perspective, it sends a message. Turkey and Russia recognised it for what it was.
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DividedQuantum said: OTOH, no one would ever say "a better country is even wanted by him." That's barely English. Capers was right.
I was arguing against the logic of rearranging a sentence to apply caper's test.
With that said, I agree that "who" is correct. I mistakenly thought akira was arguing in favor of "who".
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Wait a minute, you can just rearrange the sentence to something completely different? Alrighty then, how about this:
"a better country is even wanted by he/him"
This would make Akira right.
I didn't rearrange. I replaced. YOU rearranged. If the trick I mentioned confuses you, remember that the subject of a sentence gets a "who". The object gets "whom".
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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Capers]
#23957729 - 12/26/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lmao. It was whom.
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