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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin] * 1
    #23942767 - 12/20/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Funny everyone goes straight to who to blame without asking some critical questions about the event.

The media solved the crime in the moments it was unfolding prior to any official investigations.

Why was the media showing his uncensored dead body? They just claimed that images like that aren't publishable

All caught on camera and 8 gun wounds do not produce a drop of blood.

Informed audiences know when the media is solving a crime and inserting causations prior to any formal investigation is a tell tale sign of fraudulent reporting





Bullets are very hot when they hit the target.  It's not like the movies and usually burn shut wounds.  So the wound doesn't bleed much.  Ever see cops when they show a bullet wound?  Hardly a drop of blood.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23942795 - 12/20/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If this was the only evidence suggesting a media faked event then you would be correct.

The instantaneous  conclusions the media gives without any official investigations or fact checking.

The consolidated mass media starts running with an unverified source and all the consolidated media legs all fall suit without any investigative journalism.

The gunman shouted allahu ackbar moments before and this is always the media go to defense for insataneous terrorist labeling.

A pattern emerges to those that have been investigating these instantly solved events. Furthermore we know the motives of why the consolidated mass media always gets on board with the same uncorroborated stories over and over again


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin] * 1
    #23942949 - 12/20/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Are you in terrorism denial or something more diagnostic?

There is no great media conspiracy.  There are not huge psyop operations to mutate your sperm.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23942988 - 12/20/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If you're trying to say there is not great media conspiracy, then you cannot think. If you actually saw the stuff put out on media, you HAVE to know there's something behind it. Either that, or these people and the people that run our country are the most idiotic, braindead, and belligerent people in the world, but I highly doubt that. When almost every single news story is twisted to make the population to think a certain way(and it's evident with everyone around you), then there are obvious agendas. E.g. Pulse shooting. Biggest BS story in the world, there's an insane amount of information that was skewed, and left out. The most absurd part is how they said he did it against gays, just because it was at a gay club: YET it was latino night. Why couldn't it have been that? He never said it was against gays. He actually, on his 911 phone call report, stated he is doing this for revenge because the US keeps bombing innocent people in the middle east(this is almost the actual quote). Then Obama coincidentally pushed lgbqt laws into play right after. Anyways, not sure what it covered up or what the agenda was, but it's not just a coincidence that they lied/skewed/and left out crucial information which completely changes what people know actually happened. And this happens daily on every news story. The titles conclude something that, if you actually read, cannot be concluded. They're all biased and false, and since no one can actually think for themselves, they believe what they see and hear.

And also, what makes you think there wouldn't be a lot of blood? Yes, maybe one or two, not so much. But when you're shot 8 time(that's it, right?), it's unbelievably unlikely that a major vessels or organ didn't get hit(which he died, so i'm assuming some did). This would produce a lot of blood. I'm not an expert, of course, but going off of my nursing experience, that's what I believe.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: camerinkw]
    #23942989 - 12/20/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

you saying the guy pulled a Saw-type fake-out and just was really good at looking like a dead body?


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23942999 - 12/20/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure. I don't believe anything I don't know for sure. I was just supporting the idea of media deception, which I do know for sure.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: camerinkw] * 2
    #23943030 - 12/20/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The media are not run by a giant conspiracy. They are biased, and can be deceptive, and can promote falsehoods, but there is no shadow organization malevolently pulling the strings concerning what gets on TV. Every media source has its agenda, which is usually the agenda of whoever owns it. The producers, directors, writers and editors play out this agenda, which is often pro-government, on their own. To wit, I watched several of the news shows this past Sunday morning, and they were all decrying Russia. They didn't have to be told to broadcast that; that's the party line. Everyone more or less falls into lockstep, and yes, the media sucks and most of it is garbage, but there is no grand conspiracy. Just common interests and corruption.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23943036 - 12/20/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Some might call it a social circle with a common vibe.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23943163 - 12/20/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The media are not run by a giant conspiracy. They are biased, and can be deceptive, and can promote falsehoods, but there is no shadow organization malevolently pulling the strings concerning what gets on TV. Every media source has its agenda, which is usually the agenda of whoever owns it. The producers, directors, writers and editors play out this agenda, which is often pro-government, on their own. To wit, I watched several of the news shows this past Sunday morning, and they were all decrying Russia. They didn't have to be told to broadcast that; that's the party line. Everyone more or less falls into lockstep, and yes, the media sucks and most of it is garbage, but there is no grand conspiracy. Just common interests and corruption.





Some fifty years ago your statement would be spot on accurate.


However since then there has been an effort to consolidate the media. Over 90 % of every news agencies stations, internet, television and  radio have all been consolidated and if you follow the ownership groups all come back to six conglomerates that have extremely shared interests.

Since these acquisitions and consolidation a majority of any investigative journalism has been nearly completely decimated so they do not fact check anything anymore.

Haven't you seen the videos where the anchors are reading the exact same scripts over your so called "competing networks"


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin]
    #23943272 - 12/20/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Obama behind assassination of Russian ambassador?

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Islamic terrorist, Mevlut Mert Altintas, 22, murdered Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov in Turkey Monday – and top Russian politicians think President Barack Obama is to blame for the attack.

Altintas shot Karlov at a photo exhibit in Istanbul and loudly proclaimed the murder was a retaliation for Russian atrocities committed during the Syrian civil war, shouting “Allahu akbar! Do not forget Aleppo! Do not forget Syria!” in Arabic to reporters in the room. “We are the descendants of those who support the Prophet Muhammad with jihad!”

But a top ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin claims this wasn’t a lone wolf terror attack – but instead was a move by Obama to provoke Russia.

Senior Russian Senator Frantz Klintsevich, deputy chairman of the Russian upper chamber’s Defense and Security Committee, claimed he was suspicious that attack “was a planned action” from top NATO brass, The Sun reports.

“Everyone knew that he was going to attend this photo exhibition. It can be ISIS, or the Kurdish army which tries to hurt Erdogan,” Klintsevich said. “But may be — and it is highly likely — that representatives of foreign NATO secret services are behind it. What has happened is a true provocation, a challenge. It is a challenge for Russia.”

Klintsevich appears to have been referring to an interview between Obama and NPR’s Steve Inskeep last Friday, where Obama vowed American retaliation against what Democrats claim was Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.




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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23943279 - 12/20/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

No because there is a mountain of evidence that proves that ambassador suffered not one legitimate gun wound yesterday. Watch the footage and quickly made conclusions if you don't believe me


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: camerinkw]
    #23943297 - 12/20/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not sure. I don't believe anything I don't know for sure. I was just supporting the idea of media deception, which I do know for sure.



LOL K nice evidence.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23943342 - 12/20/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What are you talking about? I never made a claim in which I had to provide evidence for. You asked me if I was saying they faked the death and I'm telling you I don't know. I'm not the one who said anything about that.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin]
    #23943350 - 12/20/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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No because there is a mountain of evidence that proves that ambassador suffered not one legitimate gun wound yesterday. Watch the footage and quickly made conclusions if you don't believe me




I'm starting to agree,  no blood on a white floor? WTF???


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23943371 - 12/20/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

There is no blood anywhere! this is a common theme from some other false flag shootings.

The media claims they do not show deceased political leaders and they show very dramatic uncensored images that seem as if a Hollywood crew setup the shots and angles. I mean they captured some very clear and centered uncensored images plastered over MSM selling the narratives they want nearly instantaneous and prior to any fact checking.

We have seen these same events play out too many times to be fooled continuously


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin]
    #23943393 - 12/20/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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We have seen these same events play out too many times to be fooled continuously





We have. not the other 90%+ of the country.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23943453 - 12/20/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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No because there is a mountain of evidence that proves that ambassador suffered not one legitimate gun wound yesterday. Watch the footage and quickly made conclusions if you don't believe me




I'm starting to agree,  no blood on a white floor? WTF???



his suit could have soaked it up- have you seen any evidence of where the body laid, other than the video given by media sources? have you seen the actually crime scene investigation's documentation? what if the zoom/lens the camera had could divulge such visual information, because it could pick up on it? blood spatter from a gunshot can be infinitesimally tiny specs.


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23943467 - 12/20/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Akira if that was the only dispute I would concede but there are many other alarming things the media has reported without any investigations or any reports.

This event follows a strict and transparent pattern the lack of blood from five point blank gunshots are just the cherries on top for truth discerners


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin]
    #23943505 - 12/20/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

"Kinetic energy manifests itself in human tissue in temporary stretching of tissue, which most tissue except for liver and neural tissue is able to withstand with little ill effect. Slow motion videos show that the 4.6 mm bullet yaws at impact on soft tissue. This is because the center of mass of the bullet is behind the geometric center, causing the back to come forward at impact, and therefore tumbling through soft tissue, creating much greater damage, according to the "energy dump" theory"


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Re: Russia's Ambassador off'd in Turkey [Re: Takethatdarwin]
    #23943649 - 12/20/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Akira if that was the only dispute I would concede but there are many other alarming things the media has reported without any investigations or any reports.

This event follows a strict and transparent pattern the lack of blood from five point blank gunshots are just the cherries on top for truth discerners





I already explained the reason for that to you.  The fact you ignore is your head problem.


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