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Best trout bait?
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How well would minnows work for catching stocked rainbow trout in a river?
I've caught 2 trout in my life, about 4 months ago. It was at the same river im going to fish tommorow, ive been there twice. Caught the 2 trout on my first trip there with salmon eggs, caught nothing my second trip.
I'd prefer not to use artificial bait.
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xbloodwhipx said: How well would minnows work for catching stocked rainbow trout in a river?
I've caught 2 trout in my life, about 4 months ago. It was at the same river im going to fish tommorow, ive been there twice. Caught the 2 trout on my first trip there with salmon eggs, caught nothing my second trip.
I'd prefer not to use artificial bait.
If you absolutely have to use bait, salmon eggs are a good choice for trout in a stream. Nymphs, crickets, and grasshoppers are decent options as well. I don't recommend minnows for trout, but you might catch something. Lures like spinners, or a fly and bobber are going to do the best for you in a steam or river though. that kind of fishing is more like hunting, and involves swimming the lure past the places you would expect fish to be. Trout arent really like a catfish or something, and they aren't going to actively search for food by scent very much in those conditions, so it is key to make sure that whatever you use is moving downstream, and not upstream in order to provoke a feeding response. Also, cover ground. Don't sit in one spot all day.
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I'm a fly-fisherman, but the most successful trout fishermen that I know are a few old guys that only fish worms. Contrary to popular belief, trout aren't necessarily the pickiest eaters and it's all about knowing where and how to drift your rig.
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pheasant327 said: Contrary to popular belief, trout aren't necessarily the pickiest eaters and it's all about knowing where and how to drift your rig.

i prefer artificials in general for spinning or conventional tackle because it allows me to keep my line wet. Especially for a novice, the time involved with constantly re-baiting a hook can significantly reduce your fishing time over the course of a day. This applies to a tuna trip just as much as a day of rock-hopping. The other reason i prefer lures, is that i prefer to catch and release when i can, and they swallow bait down into their guts a lot of the time, while a spinner almost always hooks em in the mouth
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xbloodwhipx said: How well would minnows work for catching stocked rainbow trout in a river?
I've caught 2 trout in my life, about 4 months ago. It was at the same river im going to fish tommorow, ive been there twice. Caught the 2 trout on my first trip there with salmon eggs, caught nothing my second trip.
I'd prefer not to use artificial bait.
If you absolutely have to use bait, salmon eggs are a good choice for trout in a stream. Nymphs, crickets, and grasshoppers are decent options as well. I don't recommend minnows for trout, but you might catch something. Lures like spinners, or a fly and bobber are going to do the best for you in a steam or river though. that kind of fishing is more like hunting, and involves swimming the lure past the places you would expect fish to be. Trout arent really like a catfish or something, and they aren't going to actively search for food by scent very much in those conditions, so it is key to make sure that whatever you use is moving downstream, and not upstream in order to provoke a feeding response. Also, cover ground. Don't sit in one spot all day.
I may have to try crickets 
I would use lures, but I'm very inexperienced in trout fishing. I feel like it would be easier to watch a bobber, as I dont really mind rebaiting my hook and keeping gut hooked trout to eat.
So, I guess I'll bring worms (nightcrawlers?), crickets and minnows and try them all.
Any tips on location? Do they hold to cover like bass? Deep or shallow water? all tips are appreciated.
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In the past I preferred artificial lures instead of live bait because it's more of a challenge.
I found a white rooster tail spinner to be my go to trout lure. I have had good luck with all rooster tails though, but white always seemed to be the best, this could have been because I was fishing a river which was murky, so the white was more visible to the fish.

I have used corn with great results too, and red wigglers, but where I used to fish for trout, you can't use live bait.
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Re: Best trout bait? [Re: Lucis]
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Fennario said: In the past I preferred artificial lures instead of live bait because it's more of a challenge.
I found a white rooster tail spinner to be my go to trout lure. I have had good luck with all rooster tails though, but white always seemed to be the best, this could have been because I was fishing a river which was murky, so the white was more visible to the fish.

I have used corn with great results too, and red wigglers, but where I used to fish for trout, you can't use live bait.
Corn. I'll add that to the list 
Im not looking for a challenge atm, I just want to catch some trout. But eventually I'll get into lures. Its like my bass fishing career lol, I started with live bait until I got used to catching bass, then started fishing with lures.
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On our yearly trips to the finger lakes in New York I would fish as much as possible. Reeled up many lake trout on 'saw bellies'. One day a man reeled in a very large rainbow that hit a saw belly. Other than that I caught brown trout on small crawdads. Not sure if this helps. Our speckled trout are quite different than freshwater trout and taste much better..I ate the 1st lake trout I caught and will not eat another. Fun to catch though. I'm itching to get fishing myself! Good luck!
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xbloodwhipx said: How well would minnows work for catching stocked rainbow trout in a river?
I've caught 2 trout in my life, about 4 months ago. It was at the same river im going to fish tommorow, ive been there twice. Caught the 2 trout on my first trip there with salmon eggs, caught nothing my second trip.
I'd prefer not to use artificial bait.
If you absolutely have to use bait, salmon eggs are a good choice for trout in a stream. Nymphs, crickets, and grasshoppers are decent options as well. I don't recommend minnows for trout, but you might catch something. Lures like spinners, or a fly and bobber are going to do the best for you in a steam or river though. that kind of fishing is more like hunting, and involves swimming the lure past the places you would expect fish to be. Trout arent really like a catfish or something, and they aren't going to actively search for food by scent very much in those conditions, so it is key to make sure that whatever you use is moving downstream, and not upstream in order to provoke a feeding response. Also, cover ground. Don't sit in one spot all day.
I may have to try crickets 
I would use lures, but I'm very inexperienced in trout fishing. I feel like it would be easier to watch a bobber, as I dont really mind rebaiting my hook and keeping gut hooked trout to eat.
So, I guess I'll bring worms (nightcrawlers?), crickets and minnows and try them all.
Any tips on location? Do they hold to cover like bass? Deep or shallow water? all tips are appreciated.
trout in rivers/streams don't act like trout in a lake. and they aren't like a bass at all except for being opportunistic ambushers. You're going to want to move downstream, and cast upstream. The trout are going to sit where they can sit and hold steady tailing upstream without much effort, while watching for food to be carried helplessly to them on the current. This means that your number 1 prime spot is going to be just after an area of rapid current, where the water broadens out and slows a bit. the trout will be hanging on the edges of the faster current, especially in places where the bank dips in. Sometimes fallen logs or debris will create areas of slower flow in an otherwise rapidly moving waterway. Definitely float a few baits past these spots. Its all about looking for where you would be if you were a lazy trout waiting for the river to bring you food. Depending on the area, they might be keyed in on one food. If you're getting skunked, ask around, they might only be biting yellow and black flies that week. That doesn't always hold true, mind you, but sometimes you can get clued in by the locals. Don't be afraid of flies. Put a bobber a couple feet above it, and float that bitch past the good spots. blow the water off of the fly in between casts so it stays dry(ish) and floats better.
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pinedownpioneer said: On our yearly trips to the finger lakes in New York I would fish as much as possible. Reeled up many lake trout on 'saw bellies'. One day a man reeled in a very large rainbow that hit a saw belly. Other than that I caught brown trout on small crawdads. Not sure if this helps. Our speckled trout are quite different than freshwater trout and taste much better..I ate the 1st lake trout I caught and will not eat another. Fun to catch though. I'm itching to get fishing myself! Good luck!
Big Brown trout will take mice. superglue the hook to the mouse, dont stick it through him, or he'll die very quickly. It's not that a big brown won't eat less ambitious bait, it just helps to weed out the little guys who are too small to eat a mouse.
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xbloodwhipx said: How well would minnows work for catching stocked rainbow trout in a river?
I've caught 2 trout in my life, about 4 months ago. It was at the same river im going to fish tommorow, ive been there twice. Caught the 2 trout on my first trip there with salmon eggs, caught nothing my second trip.
I'd prefer not to use artificial bait.
If you absolutely have to use bait, salmon eggs are a good choice for trout in a stream. Nymphs, crickets, and grasshoppers are decent options as well. I don't recommend minnows for trout, but you might catch something. Lures like spinners, or a fly and bobber are going to do the best for you in a steam or river though. that kind of fishing is more like hunting, and involves swimming the lure past the places you would expect fish to be. Trout arent really like a catfish or something, and they aren't going to actively search for food by scent very much in those conditions, so it is key to make sure that whatever you use is moving downstream, and not upstream in order to provoke a feeding response. Also, cover ground. Don't sit in one spot all day.
I may have to try crickets 
I would use lures, but I'm very inexperienced in trout fishing. I feel like it would be easier to watch a bobber, as I dont really mind rebaiting my hook and keeping gut hooked trout to eat.
So, I guess I'll bring worms (nightcrawlers?), crickets and minnows and try them all.
Any tips on location? Do they hold to cover like bass? Deep or shallow water? all tips are appreciated.
trout in rivers/streams don't act like trout in a lake. and they aren't like a bass at all except for being opportunistic ambushers. You're going to want to move downstream, and cast upstream. The trout are going to sit where they can sit and hold steady tailing upstream without much effort, while watching for food to be carried helplessly to them on the current. This means that your number 1 prime spot is going to be just after an area of rapid current, where the water broadens out and slows a bit. the trout will be hanging on the edges of the faster current, especially in places where the bank dips in. Sometimes fallen logs or debris will create areas of slower flow in an otherwise rapidly moving waterway. Definitely float a few baits past these spots. Its all about looking for where you would be if you were a lazy trout waiting for the river to bring you food. Depending on the area, they might be keyed in on one food. If you're getting skunked, ask around, they might only be biting yellow and black flies that week. That doesn't always hold true, mind you, but sometimes you can get clued in by the locals. Don't be afraid of flies. Put a bobber a couple feet above it, and float that bitch past the good spots. blow the water off of the fly in between casts so it stays dry(ish) and floats better.
Oh yeah I'm by no means scared of flies. I use them for bream/smaller bass all of the time. I dont have a fly rod but I just use a bubble bobber (clear thing that you fill halfway with water for casting weight). Thats certainly something I'll eventually use.
Unfortunately I didnt catch any trout. Oh well though, I'm def going to try again.
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pinedownpioneer said: On our yearly trips to the finger lakes in New York I would fish as much as possible. Reeled up many lake trout on 'saw bellies'. One day a man reeled in a very large rainbow that hit a saw belly. Other than that I caught brown trout on small crawdads. Not sure if this helps. Our speckled trout are quite different than freshwater trout and taste much better..I ate the 1st lake trout I caught and will not eat another. Fun to catch though. I'm itching to get fishing myself! Good luck!
Big Brown trout will take mice. superglue the hook to the mouse, dont stick it through him, or he'll die very quickly. It's not that a big brown won't eat less ambitious bait, it just helps to weed out the little guys who are too small to eat a mouse.

Thats fucking awesome.
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This is just an FYI..
A couple family members and I were fishing streams up in them mountains for trout and we were getting all set up and my uncle (not an outdoors man per se, can't/won't clean fish because he's scared of intestines) pulled out a little jar of what looked like little balls of pink play-doh.. I went wtf? It was called "Power bait". So I thought yeah have fun swinging that around all day for no reason..
...turns out he caught more than the rest of us. Color me surprised..
(I caught the first one tho.. )
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Amanita86 said: This is just an FYI..
A couple family members and I were fishing streams up in them mountains for trout and we were getting all set up and my uncle (not an outdoors man per se, can't/won't clean fish because he's scared of intestines) pulled out a little jar of what looked like little balls of pink play-doh.. I went wtf? It was called "Power bait". So I thought yeah have fun swinging that around all day for no reason..
...turns out he caught more than the rest of us. Color me surprised..
(I caught the first one tho.. )
powerbait is good for stocked rainbows. The downside is that you'll pretty much never catch a brown or brook trout on powerbait, plus the shit stinks and it gets all over your fingers so you have to smell it every time you take a drag off of your smoke.
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As mentioned earlier we used to use grasshoppers for bait. Worked well enough
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Grasshoppers/crickets work best for me, then leaf worms. I only trout fish in small creeks and streams though.
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pinedownpioneer said: On our yearly trips to the finger lakes in New York I would fish as much as possible. Reeled up many lake trout on 'saw bellies'. One day a man reeled in a very large rainbow that hit a saw belly. Other than that I caught brown trout on small crawdads. Not sure if this helps. Our speckled trout are quite different than freshwater trout and taste much better..I ate the 1st lake trout I caught and will not eat another. Fun to catch though. I'm itching to get fishing myself! Good luck!
Big Brown trout will take mice. superglue the hook to the mouse, dont stick it through him, or he'll die very quickly. It's not that a big brown won't eat less ambitious bait, it just helps to weed out the little guys who are too small to eat a mouse.

Thats fucking awesome.
lol, mice can swim??
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Yeah I went again yesterday using minnows, worms, and salmon eggs.
None worked, stocked trout are def in the water, I saw some BIG ones jumping (chatahoochee river ga).
I guess I'll try once more. I'm going to try crickets, and dry flies. Then I'm giving up on this spot I guess
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Amanita86 said: This is just an FYI..
A couple family members and I were fishing streams up in them mountains for trout and we were getting all set up and my uncle (not an outdoors man per se, can't/won't clean fish because he's scared of intestines) pulled out a little jar of what looked like little balls of pink play-doh.. I went wtf? It was called "Power bait". So I thought yeah have fun swinging that around all day for no reason..
...turns out he caught more than the rest of us. Color me surprised..
(I caught the first one tho.. )
powerbait is good for stocked rainbows. The downside is that you'll pretty much never catch a brown or brook trout on powerbait, plus the shit stinks and it gets all over your fingers so you have to smell it every time you take a drag off of your smoke.
Oh yeah, I picked up some power bait the other day. I'm reluctant to use it because I feel like the current will wash it off my hook, but I'm probably going to try it next time I go.
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Stocked rainbows are fed a diet of pelleted food as they are grown out in the hatchery. If you are going to stay fairly immobile while you fish, you can try gathering a few handfuls of small pebbles (1/4 inch and smaller) and tossing them out over the water. They think its feeding time and some should be drawn to the sound.
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Stocked rainbows will go for almost anything that hits the water if they are hungry enough. The brook/native trout around here are much smaller and harder to catch, but I've had luck with grasshoppers or lures that resemble small bugs. They will scatter quickly if they even see your shadow move over the water.
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Re: Best trout bait? [Re: idiotek]
#23968314 - 12/30/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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+1 on the corn kernels and small spinners like the Mepps brand.
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Re: Best trout bait? [Re: idiotek]
#23968335 - 12/30/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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If i'm fishing for brookies, I'm probably using a very small fly and bubble.
I've almost always had my best luck with gold bladed spinners when fishing for browns in streams/rivers (resembles a small brown trout is my theory)
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Plan caned corn works good..
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Amanita talked about powerbait. This is killer for stocked raimbows...get the color similar to velveeta cheese or a chartreuse rainbow mix. When I waqs a kid, we started using velveeta on a size 16 treble hook and outfished everyone...problem was, it got too soft in hot weather. Then we tried different colors of playdough...pretty much how power bait got started. I wish I would have thought of that.
1/16th oz. rooster tails...(black is my fav., white or yellow) and a size 0 mepps aglia...another great trout spinner. Those work better for browns/ brooks as most brooks and all browns will not take powerbait.
These are the baits that I give to newcomers...my boys and now grand-daughter. But the real fun in trout fishing is fly fishing if you have streams/ lakes that get good caddis/ mayfly hatches.
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